Sondhi Limthongkul Faces Prosecution Over Storming Of Thai Government House

[Thai at Heart]

Postponed because recuperating from gunshot wounds.

A new one for Thailand i guess.

[rubl]

"Postponed because of recuperating from gunshot wounds" Luckily not too many who can rightfully claim such excuse.

2009-04-17

"Thai "yellow shirt" leader Sondhi survives shooting"

http://www.reuters.c...K18202120090417

[Artisi]

Luckily for some he survived the gun-shot wounds, without him many posters here wouldn't have someone to run-down, cry about or generally make a lot of noise about nothing.

[tgeezer]

Red Yellow , green, blue. !! What does it matter, All this pontificating about criminal acts and democratic rule of law under the Thai penal code is a waste of breath

There is simply no rule of law in this country . There is however a myriad of laws of self intrest which are applied to suit every occasion and bear little or no resemblance to actuality.

This is a country where any form of civil or social morality only exist within the masses who have long since come to realize that if you can't beat them , then join them.

Greed, power, corruption and status are the elements that energise this nation for the benefit of the few and at the expense of the many.

This is not just a collection of morally bankrupt opertunists, It is a well oiled gangrenous machine.

The majority of these power mongers are inept and incapable of performing their duties and their individual ablilities and intelect of most, are poor at best. They are there out for themselves, collectively. The system, country and people are merely a means to an end

. They fought for the positions they hold for the way it is and are most unlikely to want to change the status quo. Try taking a juicy bone away from a rabid dog .n

Any real change towards a free,transparent and democratic society without radical intervention is a pipe dream.

You can't make omletes without breaking eggs.

Frustrating for those of us from a different culture isn't it?

It is not a waste of time though; most of the population live reasonably well in Thailand, there is food on the table school for any who want it and the prospect of a future better than their past. As things change at the individual level so they will gradually get better for the country, this is the system. The fact of the rule of law being only superficial is the safety valve; the stakes are low, the losses are therefore low. Those with most to lose are the least likely to lose, it is therefore essential to get as much as you can by any means at every level in society.

I don't think it is the best system, but without shattering the veneer of civilisation, is there any way of changing it?

Edited November 23, 2012 by tgeezer

[Moruya]

How about prosecuting these criminals for closing the airport? The airport closing was probably the biggest "man-made" event that negatively impacted tourism and harmed business.

Absolutely agree with you.

That was probably the single event that damaged the most Bangkok ambition to be South East Asia trade and business centre.

What? More so that a group of violent thusgs storming an ASEAN meeting and causing it to be cancelled and visiting dignitaries to be evacuated?

[DocN]

How about prosecuting these criminals for closing the airport? The airport closing was probably the biggest "man-made" event that negatively impacted tourism and harmed business.

Absolutely agree with you.

That was probably the single event that damaged the most Bangkok ambition to be South East Asia trade and business centre.

What? More so that a group of violent thusgs storming an ASEAN meeting and causing it to be cancelled and visiting dignitaries to be evacuated?

Yes!

Why?

Because the one group are politicians, who may have trouble in their own country and they know, that these things can very well happen.

The other group where mainly tourists, who come here for nothing but holidays and they go home, telling everyone about their hardship and how everyone should avoid Thailand!

The one group was ...I don't know...75 political figures with their entourage, the other where literally 100s of 1000s of tourists.

See the difference?

If you would have made the comparrisson to the Ratchaphrasong- invasion...fine!

But these two things? No way!

[Moruya]

How about prosecuting these criminals for closing the airport? The airport closing was probably the biggest "man-made" event that negatively impacted tourism and harmed business.

Absolutely agree with you.

That was probably the single event that damaged the most Bangkok ambition to be South East Asia trade and business centre.

What? More so that a group of violent thusgs storming an ASEAN meeting and causing it to be cancelled and visiting dignitaries to be evacuated?

Yes!

Why?

Because the one group are politicians, who may have trouble in their own country and they know, that these things can very well happen.

The other group where mainly tourists, who come here for nothing but holidays and they go home, telling everyone about their hardship and how everyone should avoid Thailand!

The one group was ...I don't know...75 political figures with their entourage, the other where literally 100s of 1000s of tourists.

See the difference?

If you would have made the comparrisson to the Ratchaphrasong- invasion...fine!

But these two things? No way!

It hasn't affected the tourists at all. Don't you read the red shirt gazette?

Billions of tourists spending trillions of dollars.

[animatic]

'nurofiend' timestamp='1353368866' post='5860779'

the timing of this is very strange.

Just pure coincidence of course.

exactly what i meant.

Not really surprising timing at all,

it is intended to coincide with the new anti-government protests for next week.

i was being sarcastic.

Far too many here do not do sarcasm well, or even in part.

So I made a public service comment.

[animatic]

It's good to see the courts doing their jobs and defendants not running away to hide from justice.

ok let's make this about thaksin then shall we, there's certainly not enough said about him on this forum.

do you think if thaksin had stayed with the charges they had for him at that time, that he would have been walking around like sondhi?

please, i beg you, be honest.

If it ultimately is not about Thaksin's control of Thailand, what is it about?

when i said let's make this about thaksin, i was just highlighting the hypocritical way in how some members act.. when nearly every thread is about thaksin/ptp/red shirts and if someone brings up a comparison with the yellows/abhisit they will give it that "but abhisit button" hilarious catchphrase.

but in the very few threads there ever is about yellows or abhisit, they're the very ones to bring the reds/thaksin straight into it.

thing is, i don't mind either action as i believe comparisons are perfectly fair to be made in two sided political discussions, such as in this topic, comparisons of thaksin with sondhi are fair to make.

it's just the blatant hypocrisy that i detest.

Moruya was doing irony, and like sarcasm it left too many in the dust as self-blinding literalists.

[animatic]

Can politicians be defamed?

It is almost imposible to discuss them individually and not do so in most cases.

Edited November 23, 2012 by animatic

[DocN]

Morunya said:

"It hasn't affected the tourists at all. Don't you read the red shirt gazette?

Billions of tourists spending trillions of dollars."

Are you mental or what are you babbeling about?

Or do you believe the TAT nonsense!

Or are you trying to be funny?

Being mental you are good at!

Being funny...well...not so much!

[monkfish]

mmm sure i had previously posted on this thread.

[15Peter20]

mmm sure i had previously posted on this thread.

You're traveling through another dimension -- a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination. That's a signpost up ahead: your next stop: the Twilight Zone!

-serling

[MAJIC]

If the reds always get a free walk why does thaksin need to be in exile, why did jatuporn lose his MP status, why was TRT disbanded, why are there other trials for red shirts going through the courts, why would you expect them to be up to date on the legal system, come on, they are only just up to 2008.

some people need to think before they post

"If the reds always get a free walk why does thaksin need to be in exile"

Because he has been found guilty of several illegal offences,and hasn't got the nerve to do his time in Prison!

I won't even bother to answer the other silly questions..

[nurofiend]

Not really surprising timing at all,

it is intended to coincide with the new anti-government protests for next week.

i was being sarcastic.

Far too many here do not do sarcasm well, or even in part.

So I made a public service comment.

don't feel bad that you didn't get it.

[nurofiend]

If it ultimately is not about Thaksin's control of Thailand, what is it about?

when i said let's make this about thaksin, i was just highlighting the hypocritical way in how some members act.. when nearly every thread is about thaksin/ptp/red shirts and if someone brings up a comparison with the yellows/abhisit they will give it that "but abhisit button" hilarious catchphrase.

but in the very few threads there ever is about yellows or abhisit, they're the very ones to bring the reds/thaksin straight into it.

thing is, i don't mind either action as i believe comparisons are perfectly fair to be made in two sided political discussions, such as in this topic, comparisons of thaksin with sondhi are fair to make.

it's just the blatant hypocrisy that i detest.

Moruya was doing irony, and like sarcasm it left too many in the dust as self-blinding literalists.

doing irony was he?

i really thought his statement was serious... <-- just for the heads up, that's sarcasm again.

[Theoutsider]

Stoking the fires.