MunterHunter Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Protestors? When drivers, maids and out of town folks attend to get fed and paid to attend, isnt that called temporary employment, moonlighting? Um, you just described red shirt supporters, not yellows... Depends who is footing the bills on the day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ALFREDO Posted November 22, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2012 How can you be confused Abhisit ?? You know what you have done some year's ago you stand behind one of the worst violence in Thai history !!! Really? Abhisit, was the culprit? He was one of the -unreasonable- Red shirts? I think, you are, very confused. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 This is serious, the stopped the soap operas so yingluck can address the country as to why the ISA is necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 This is serious, the stopped the soap operas so yingluck can address the country as to why the ISA is necessary. Did she mention the kidnapping plot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSlatersParrot Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Her addre This is serious, the stopped the soap operas so yingluck can address the country as to why the ISA is necessary. I just watched it. I thought it was on at 8:30. I think she's nipped this one in the bud. If there is any truth to there being a botched earlier attempt at a coup forewarned is forearmed. She's proving herself. No wonder Abhisit is upset. Their plans are falling away. 30,000 max at the weekend. There were 40,000 redshirts at Ayutaya the other day. To be on the safe side they should wheel out the water cannon. That should scare off any trouble makers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) Her addre This is serious, the stopped the soap operas so yingluck can address the country as to why the ISA is necessary. I just watched it. I thought it was on at 8:30. If there is any truth to there being a botched earlier attempt at a coup forewarned Is that the reason she gave? They've foiled a coup by implementing the ISA which puts the Army in charge??? . Edited November 22, 2012 by Buchholz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) Just following Thaksin's script to gaining greater control. Alleged coup attempt, ( faked assignation in 2006, recent alleged assassination attempt ) and creating the fear of violence before any is coming, as a set up for creating it as a way to lock in control and lock out oversight, and give reasons for not going before the Censure Debates. If they've foiled a coup.... why no perp-walk of the culprets???... Thais love their perp-walks. Edited November 22, 2012 by animatic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSlatersParrot Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Just following Thaksin's script to gaining greater control. Alleged coup attempt, ( faked assignation in 2006, recent alleged assassination attempt ) and creating the fear of violence before any is coming, as a set up for creating it as a way to lock in control and lock out oversight, and give reasons for not going before the Censure Debates. If they've foiled a coup.... why no perp-walk of the culprets???... Thais love their perp-walks. I was referring to the supposed foiled coup of June 1st 2012 which cannot be linked to because of the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Just following Thaksin's script to gaining greater control. Alleged coup attempt, ( faked assignation in 2006, recent alleged assassination attempt ) and creating the fear of violence before any is coming, as a set up for creating it as a way to lock in control and lock out oversight, and give reasons for not going before the Censure Debates. If they've foiled a coup.... why no perp-walk of the culprets???... Thais love their perp-walks. I was referring to the supposed foiled coup of June 1st 2012 which cannot be linked to because of the rules. what was on June 1st 2012...I can't remember anything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Just following Thaksin's script to gaining greater control. Alleged coup attempt, ( faked assignation in 2006, recent alleged assassination attempt ) and creating the fear of violence before any is coming, as a set up for creating it as a way to lock in control and lock out oversight, and give reasons for not going before the Censure Debates. If they've foiled a coup.... why no perp-walk of the culprets???... Thais love their perp-walks. yes always the victim that must defend himself.....Goebbels script.....But actually she is doing her best to really provoke a coup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Constitution Court rejected to block anti-govt rally Pitak Siam group as there is no solid proof of plan to oust govt /The Nation So then, those different Pheu Thai Party MP's that petitioned the court failed to provide solid proof of their allegations. Fear-mongering with an ISA implementation must be their "Plan B." . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post backtonormal Posted November 22, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2012 "This government ignores widespread disrespect of the monarchy and even supports the perpetrators. It is a puppet of Thaksin," said Pitak Siam spokesman Vachara Riddhagni." They seem to drag this tired old excuse out every time they want to have a protest. Surely they can come up with something better?? How exactly are they disrespecting the monarchy. Same old nonsense to stop people asking questions and implying that if you dont support this movement you are disloyal. Without that excuse they have nothing to protest about but if they do lets hear the facts not this 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALFREDO Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 This is serious, the stopped the soap operas so yingluck can address the country as to why the ISA is necessary. Yes, must be -dead- serious. The Press conference with Yingluck and Obama was from no importance, when the Journalists questions where asked and answers given from the Prime Minister and the President, Channel 7 stopped broadcasting that event and all -important- Thai Channels showed -Soap Operas-! Had to watch it on CNN LIVE. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSlatersParrot Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Just following Thaksin's script to gaining greater control. Alleged coup attempt, ( faked assignation in 2006, recent alleged assassination attempt ) and creating the fear of violence before any is coming, as a set up for creating it as a way to lock in control and lock out oversight, and give reasons for not going before the Censure Debates. If they've foiled a coup.... why no perp-walk of the culprets???... Thais love their perp-walks. Nothing faked about it. The perps were caught. As Thaksin said why would he go to the trouble to fake a car bomb attack and then go and catch the perps. If he had set it up you might think they might have ratted on him coz they didn't but they were attached to ISOC where, how shall I say, a certain general is not best pals with Thaksin. Who knows about the recent threats to him in Burma? We know there's a 10,000 dollar contract out on him. Oh you didn't read Wiki leaks. I forgot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soupdragon Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Just following Thaksin's script to gaining greater control. Alleged coup attempt, ( faked assignation in 2006, recent alleged assassination attempt ) and creating the fear of violence before any is coming, as a set up for creating it as a way to lock in control and lock out oversight, and give reasons for not going before the Censure Debates. If they've foiled a coup.... why no perp-walk of the culprets???... Thais love their perp-walks. Nothing faked about it. The perps were caught. As Thaksin said why would he go to the trouble to fake a car bomb attack and then go and catch the perps. If he had set it up you might think they might have ratted on him coz they didn't but they were attached to ISOC where, how shall I say, a certain general is not best pals with Thaksin. Who knows about the recent threats to him in Burma? We know there's a 10,000 dollar contract out on him. Oh you didn't read Wiki leaks. I forgot. A 10,000 dollar contract on a high profile billionaire. Does that sound credible to you ??? I am no expert but I would imagine a contract like that would have a much higher price. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcw Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) Lets just hope, this whole thing is a storm in a tea cup and no one is killed / hurt or cities burnt down. Edited November 22, 2012 by jcw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backtonormal Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I think fear will stop many turning up. The fact that they are enforcing the ISA will only compound those fears. The current administration hasn't done enough 'in your face' wrong (although behind the scenes we can all see what's coming). I think this demonstration is a little pre-mature. Still, it provides an opportunity to both see the support these 'royalists' have, and how far the government will go to suppress them if they feel threatened. I think this is a very level headed comment and worth quoting. It may worthy if he explained "what was coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) Nearly 17,000 police will be deployed for the demo, according to officials. Mr Chalerm said the 50,000-strong police are assigned to keep order at the site - TNA 2012-11-20 http://www.thaivisa....y/#entry5861840 Which one is a white lie? If anything, what with Police Captain Chalerm's ramping up the situation and various claims resulting in an ISA, one would think there would be even more of his cops than what he said just 2 days ago. More cops, not cut by over half. . Edited November 22, 2012 by Buchholz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcw Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) Good point backtonormal (reference to post #107) Edited November 22, 2012 by jcw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philw Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Constitution Court rejected to block anti-govt rally Pitak Siam group as there is no solid proof of plan to oust govt /The Nation So then, those different Pheu Thai Party MP's that petitioned the court failed to provide solid proof of their allegations. Fear-mongering with an ISA implementation must be their "Plan B." . Isn't the stated aim of the organisor " to bring down the Government " enough " ??? A public call for a coup against an elected government ?? Sedition, is it not ??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSlatersParrot Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Just following Thaksin's script to gaining greater control. Alleged coup attempt, ( faked assignation in 2006, recent alleged assassination attempt ) and creating the fear of violence before any is coming, as a set up for creating it as a way to lock in control and lock out oversight, and give reasons for not going before the Censure Debates. If they've foiled a coup.... why no perp-walk of the culprets???... Thais love their perp-walks. Nothing faked about it. The perps were caught. As Thaksin said why would he go to the trouble to fake a car bomb attack and then go and catch the perps. If he had set it up you might think they might have ratted on him coz they didn't but they were attached to ISOC where, how shall I say, a certain general is not best pals with Thaksin. Who knows about the recent threats to him in Burma? We know there's a 10,000 dollar contract out on him. Oh you didn't read Wiki leaks. I forgot. A 10,000 dollar contract on a high profile billionaire. Does that sound credible to you ??? I am no expert but I would imagine a contract like that would have a much higher price. Exactly. Who was John the US ambassador talking with? Do you know? John was surprised at the amount too. John tells us he was told that the perp would be given a new identity in a nearby country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post philw Posted November 22, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2012 Nearly 17,000 police will be deployed for the demo, according to officials. Mr Chalerm said the 50,000-strong police are assigned to keep order at the site - TNA 2012-11-20 http://www.thaivisa....y/#entry5861840 Which one is a white lie? . my you are busy tonight. salivating yet ??' But seriously, is it acceptable to you that a retired general calls for a coup against an elected government ?? yes or no, would be refreshing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backtonormal Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 How can you be confused Abhisit ?? You know what you have done some year's ago you stand behind one of the worst violence in Thai history !!! Oh you mean the violence of sending in troops to battle protestors who were packing assault rifles and grenade launchers? No, I think he means the use of snipers to shoot unarmed people, nurses, journalists and ordinary Thai folk who were shot just for being there. There is NO evidence whatsoever that security forces managed to shoot an armed person. really nurses were shot? according to which source? i seemed to have missed it You just cant get the staff anymore.... and there was medic also shot helping the wounded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSlatersParrot Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Constitution Court rejected to block anti-govt rally Pitak Siam group as there is no solid proof of plan to oust govt /The Nation So then, those different Pheu Thai Party MP's that petitioned the court failed to provide solid proof of their allegations. Fear-mongering with an ISA implementation must be their "Plan B." . Isn't the stated aim of the organisor " to bring down the Government " enough " ??? A public call for a coup against an elected government ?? Sedition, is it not ??? I think they "Pitak Siam" have overplayed their hand and what is to be heard at this demo? A lot of mud-slinging with precious little detail. A mirror image of what will take place in the parliament. A lot of heat and not much light. The government is right to prepare itself because maybe, maybe not, there are or were plans to converge on the parliament with intent to occupy it again. I wouldn't put it past these people. you couldn't make it up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Just following Thaksin's script to gaining greater control. Alleged coup attempt, ( faked assignation in 2006, recent alleged assassination attempt ) and creating the fear of violence before any is coming, as a set up for creating it as a way to lock in control and lock out oversight, and give reasons for not going before the Censure Debates. If they've foiled a coup.... why no perp-walk of the culprets???... Thais love their perp-walks. Nothing faked about it. The perps were caught. As Thaksin said why would he go to the trouble to fake a car bomb attack and then go and catch the perps. If he had set it up you might think they might have ratted on him coz they didn't but they were attached to ISOC where, how shall I say, a certain general is not best pals with Thaksin. Who knows about the recent threats to him in Burma? We know there's a 10,000 dollar contract out on him. Oh you didn't read Wiki leaks. I forgot. General Panlop seemed pretty chummy with his supposed assassination target when they visited in Dubai, along with sundry other participants, including the aforementioned Issan Rambo, who is just waiting for the word (he said it would be a whistle) before unleashing 200, 000 Red Shirts into Bangkok tomorrow... Panlop, Thaksin, Sae Daeng Arisaman, Issan Rambo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcw Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 What is this 23,000 civilian volunteers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) Nearly 17,000 police will be deployed for the demo, according to officials. Mr Chalerm said the 50,000-strong police are assigned to keep order at the site - TNA 2012-11-20 http://www.thaivisa....y/#entry5861840 Which one is a white lie? . my you are busy tonight. salivating yet ??' Dramatic U-Turn by the government ISA implemented Alleged kidnapping plots Nationwide televised cut-ins for special PM announcement And all you can come up with is inflammatory personal baiting and a question wholly unrelated to the posts you quote? . Edited November 22, 2012 by Buchholz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrain Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 RT @tulsathit: Yingluck to explain ISA decision on TV pool at 8.30 pm, with English subtitle. via @jeerapong_nna Why are these reds government always making this kind of announcments in English or with English subtitles ?I didn't know anybody speaks English in Thailand, or at least not in the touristic centers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 This is serious, the stopped the soap operas so yingluck can address the country as to why the ISA is necessary. Did she mention the kidnapping plot? No she went on about democracy, rule of law, and why the government has an obligation to protect democracy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superhearing Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I am having trouble locating exactly where this protest will be... can someone google map link me the coords? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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