h90 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Well that is the way to really take the power away from the authorities. Every speech should begin with a plea for peaceful protest. If they won't fight, what will ptp do? What will PTP do: Nothing stay in power and fill their pockets.....Maybe from time to time shoot a M79 grenade into the mob.... Look at the former Eastern block....every government was hated but they could stay in power for decades. If you control police, military, courts and have a system to keep everyone in line than the people have no choices. The comparison with Eastern Europe is absurd.All civilised countries control the police and army.In Thailand the military tend to be more independent.The courts in Thailand, though far from perfect, do aim at independence.In Thailand unpopular governments, such as the last one, can be voted out.So can this one if it falls out of favour with the Thai people. in civilized countries the politics DOES NOT control the police. politics makes the laws, police and courts work based on it INDEPENDENT from the politics. It would be unthinkable that Obama or Merkel put her brother in law as police boss. I think another Shinawatra was military boss under Thaksin. Also I never heard that Merkel, Bush or anyone else says that "democracy is not my target" or openly advocate a one party system. A one party system is very Eastern Europe. And listen to Thida.....That is exactly Eastern Block commie talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Is anyone really that stupid? To think that any other government is doing "better" for Thailand than this one? That the next non-PT government will have the Messiah as PM, who will do good for all Thai- people? That they will not rape the country as they like, fill their own pockets with corruption money and make laws for themselves and their own, giving highly paid jobs to their family and friends? They will prevent floods, because of forward planning? They will not have totally incompetent fools as high- ranking ministers? Really, guys? Seriously? Chuan Government Thaksin 1 Surayud Abhisit were way better and less corrupt. Non was the perfect government from heaven, but all were better than this. Based on this it is almost guaranteed that the next government won't be worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Dozens of monks attending, according to the missus from chamlongs sect. Tents are up, thousands of plastic chairs. surprised, no a/c. Crowd looks overwhelmingly female close to the stage. The government will fall over this, there is no way to break it up. It is inevitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Dozens of monks attending, according to the missus from chamlongs sect. Tents are up, thousands of plastic chairs. surprised, no a/c. Crowd looks overwhelmingly female close to the stage. The government will fall over this, there is no way to break it up. It is inevitable. easy to brake it up...shoot tear gas and beat the hell out of them.....if the army does not move, you come in with a red mob and kill one of the top judges so they know who is the boss. Problem fixed....there are 100 examples in human history how to do that. Worst that may happen is some civil war for a few years like in Myanmar or before with the Communists in Thailand but that hardly stop any dictator. So the only question is where the military and the media stays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtoad Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Isn't Chalerm The Turd Hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 (edited) Dozens of monks attending, according to the missus from chamlongs sect. Tents are up, thousands of plastic chairs. surprised, no a/c. Crowd looks overwhelmingly female close to the stage. The government will fall over this, there is no way to break it up. It is inevitable. easy to brake it up...shoot tear gas and beat the hell out of them.....if the army does not move, you come in with a red mob and kill one of the top judges so they know who is the boss. Problem fixed....there are 100 examples in human history how to do that. Worst that may happen is some civil war for a few years like in Myanmar or before with the Communists in Thailand but that hardly stop any dictator. So the only question is where the military and the media stays. Aint going to happen. There is no practical way to break it up and survive. The clincher was when i saw how much equipment had been allowed to be organized. Electricity, tents, chairs. Once this happens the protest can go on ad finitum. It should not be allowed for any side to put up facilities like this. It is a protest not a bingo night. Edited November 24, 2012 by Thai at Heart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOODLOVER Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Isn't Chalerm The Turd Hand? There are times when the third hand is appropriate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Dozens of monks attending, according to the missus from chamlongs sect. Tents are up, thousands of plastic chairs. surprised, no a/c. Crowd looks overwhelmingly female close to the stage. The government will fall over this, there is no way to break it up. It is inevitable. easy to brake it up...shoot tear gas and beat the hell out of them.....if the army does not move, you come in with a red mob and kill one of the top judges so they know who is the boss. Problem fixed....there are 100 examples in human history how to do that. Worst that may happen is some civil war for a few years like in Myanmar or before with the Communists in Thailand but that hardly stop any dictator. So the only question is where the military and the media stays. Aint going to happen. There is no practical way to break it up and survive. The clincher was when i saw how much equipment had been allowed to be organized. Electricity, tents, chairs. Once this happens the protest can go on ad finitum. It should not be allowed for any side to put up facilities like this. It is a protest not a bingo night. Why they shouldn't survive? Or what is it, that would make them leave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Dozens of monks attending, according to the missus from chamlongs sect. Tents are up, thousands of plastic chairs. surprised, no a/c. Crowd looks overwhelmingly female close to the stage. The government will fall over this, there is no way to break it up. It is inevitable. easy to brake it up...shoot tear gas and beat the hell out of them.....if the army does not move, you come in with a red mob and kill one of the top judges so they know who is the boss. Problem fixed....there are 100 examples in human history how to do that. Worst that may happen is some civil war for a few years like in Myanmar or before with the Communists in Thailand but that hardly stop any dictator. So the only question is where the military and the media stays. Aint going to happen. There is no practical way to break it up and survive. The clincher was when i saw how much equipment had been allowed to be organized. Electricity, tents, chairs. Once this happens the protest can go on ad finitum. It should not be allowed for any side to put up facilities like this. It is a protest not a bingo night. Why they shouldn't survive? Or what is it, that would make them leave? Survive politically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moruya Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Well that is the way to really take the power away from the authorities. Every speech should begin with a plea for peaceful protest. If they won't fight, what will ptp do? What will PTP do: Nothing stay in power and fill their pockets.....Maybe from time to time shoot a M79 grenade into the mob.... Look at the former Eastern block....every government was hated but they could stay in power for decades. If you control police, military, courts and have a system to keep everyone in line than the people have no choices. The comparison with Eastern Europe is absurd.All civilised countries control the police and army.In Thailand the military tend to be more independent.The courts in Thailand, though far from perfect, do aim at independence.In Thailand unpopular governments, such as the last one, can be voted out.So can this one if it falls out of favour with the Thai people. in civilized countries the politics DOES NOT control the police. politics makes the laws, police and courts work based on it INDEPENDENT from the politics. It would be unthinkable that Obama or Merkel put her brother in law as police boss. I think another Shinawatra was military boss under Thaksin. Also I never heard that Merkel, Bush or anyone else says that "democracy is not my target" or openly advocate a one party system. A one party system is very Eastern Europe. And listen to Thida.....That is exactly Eastern Block commie talk. Indeed. Jayboy is wrong. Using razor wire, beating up demonstrators, confiscating TV cameras is all fair comparison with eastern Europe and worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CantSpell Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 (edited) Probably the first time Mr Chalerm told the truth... He knows: he made the booking himself -------------- Seriously: Conspiracy Theory 101: the plot thicken Chalerm or his boss book the MIB for the week-end making sure that a few shots are fired... Then he can say: - "told you so"; - "Dem and Pitak are criminals...." - "they booked MIB" - "Must therefor be the Dem that booked the MIB in 2010, and they do it again today".... - "poor us, victims of the satanic Dems since 2010". Clever move Edited November 24, 2012 by CantSpell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Survive politically. Easy to survive, or do you think the PTP MPs will join the democrats on the non-confident vote? They just vote what they are told or what keeps them as close to the money as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Survive politically. Easy to survive, or do you think the PTP MPs will join the democrats on the non-confident vote? They just vote what they are told or what keeps them as close to the money as possible. By the time the protest in for a month ptp, will be long gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 These anti-democracy dinosaurs are certainly asking for trouble with their selfishly senile call for an unconstitutional coup against a stable & popular government. Is this comedy hour? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 These anti-democracy dinosaurs are certainly asking for trouble with their selfishly senile call for an unconstitutional coup against a stable & popular government. stable & popular - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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