Two Russian Females Arrested After South Pattaya Convenience Store “Incident”

[Rimmer]

Two Russian Females arrested after South Pattaya convenience store “incident”

PATTAYA:--Two Russian females were facing serious assault charges on Wednesday Night after an incident at a 7-Eleven Convenience Store located at the top-end of Soi Diamond in South Pattaya.

Police were called to the store just before 11pm and detained Miss Irina Lyubaykina aged 35 and Miss Elena Klepechina aged 27. They were accused of smashing a coke bottle over the head of one of the shop assistants, Khun Sayumporn aged 28. She sustained a head injury and was taken straight to hospital

The two Russians were taken to Pattaya Police Station where they refused to speak about the incident.

Reports from the hospitalized shop assistant suggested the pair purchased items to the value of 219 Baht. Khun Sayumporn claims she was given 220 Baht and gave back 1 Baht in change. The two Russians claimed they handed over a 1,000 Baht note and demanded the 781 Baht in change be handed over immediately.

Full story:http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/67086/russian-females-arrested-south-pattaya-convenience-store-incident/

-- Pattaya One 2012-11-29

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[TommoPhysicist]

As someone already pointed out.

One Russian lady hit a shop assistant with a plastic coke bottle, two Russian ladies were arrested.

Did they also arrest the shop assistant accused of stealing from the ladies?

7-11 have cameras, even the keystone cops could identify the correct assailant (and check if she were really short-changed at the same time) within five minutes.

I've got to the point of holding up and waving around 1,000bht notes and asking if they can change this amount before handing them over now. Too many shops, restaurants and bars doing the you only gave me 500 (or 100) bht scam.

Another Thai police victimize foreigners story.

Edited November 29, 2012 by TommoPhysicist

[Payboy]

7-11 sells Coke in glass bottles? Or did those girls manage to smash up a plastic bottle?

[rinteln]

7-11 sells Coke in glass bottles? Or did those girls manage to smash up a plastic bottle?

7/11 do the small bottles for 10 baht in glass but be surprised if they bought those as the bigger plastic ones are only a few baht more .

Edited November 29, 2012 by rinteln

[mr.buffalo]

Easy enough to run a till check. Happened to me in a pub in UK. "I gave you a twenty", "no it was a tenner". So they ran a till check. Change back for a twenty. Thanks.

[rinteln]

Yes you are right, it wouldnt be difficult to run a check. If they do regular till lifts and dont have much a float it would take merely minutes to check if it came down to it.

[davejones]

As someone already pointed out.

One Russian lady hit a shop assistant with a plastic coke bottle, two Russian ladies were arrested.

Did they also arrest the shop assistant accused of stealing from the ladies?

7-11 have cameras, even the keystone cops could identify the correct assailant (and check if she were really short-changed at the same time) within five minutes.

I've got to the point of holding up and waving around 1,000bht notes and asking if they can change this amount before handing them over now. Too many shops, restaurants and bars doing the you only gave me 500 (or 100) bht scam.

Another Thai police victimize foreigners story.

I've never bee cheated in an 7-11 and I use them most days and often give 1000 baht notes. On a separate issue, I got a taxi a few month back and gave a 100 baht note for an 80 baht fare. I told him to keep the change and left the taxi. Then as I was walking away he got out of the taxi and shouted after me. He said I'd given him 500 baht not 100, so he gave me 400 baht change. He could easily have driven off, but he didn't. I'm not sure why so many on here get ripped off regularly while others never do. Either the places they hang out, or something about the people. Judging from the attitudes on many farangs on TV (not you TP) I'm not surprised that they get ripped off. I'd probably want to rip them off as well, for being so disrespectful.

[LotusBoy]

Did the shop assistant use their calculator to work out the 1 baht change even though they have EPOS......

[Suradit69]

As someone already pointed out.

One Russian lady hit a shop assistant with a plastic coke bottle, two Russian ladies were arrested.

Did they also arrest the shop assistant accused of stealing from the ladies?

7-11 have cameras, even the keystone cops could identify the correct assailant (and check if she were really short-changed at the same time) within five minutes.

I've got to the point of holding up and waving around 1,000bht notes and asking if they can change this amount before handing them over now. Too many shops, restaurants and bars doing the you only gave me 500 (or 100) bht scam.

Another Thai police victimize foreigners story.

I've never bee cheated in an 7-11 and I use them most days and often give 1000 baht notes. On a separate issue, I got a taxi a few month back and gave a 100 baht note for an 80 baht fare. I told him to keep the change and left the taxi. Then as I was walking away he got out of the taxi and shouted after me. He said I'd given him 500 baht not 100, so he gave me 400 baht change. He could easily have driven off, but he didn't. I'm not sure why so many on here get ripped off regularly while others never do. Either the places they hang out, or something about the people. Judging from the attitudes on many farangs on TV (not you TP) I'm not surprised that they get ripped off. I'd probably want to rip them off as well, for being so disrespectful.

Yes, it sometimes seems there are two Thailands, the one I live in and the one that seems to leave certain individuals in a perpetual state of rage.

I've never been short-changed by anyone, although on several occasions I've been given too much change. I think some farangs have personal issues that cause them a great deal of worry and they manage to direct their frustrations onto those around them.

I cannot understand why people who are so unhappy about their lives in Thailand do not just go back to wherever they found life to be so great.

[KarstenBoAndersen]

Most of the cameras installed in Thai shops are the cheapest junk you can find !

Many times you can not see anything on the photos afterwards !

They are most 420 TVL with a Cmos chip !

They have to be min. 540 TVL and have a CCD chip instead, then they can be used for something !

7Eleven, Lotus etc. all have proper systems.

[robertson468]

As someone already pointed out.

One Russian lady hit a shop assistant with a plastic coke bottle, two Russian ladies were arrested.

Did they also arrest the shop assistant accused of stealing from the ladies?

7-11 have cameras, even the keystone cops could identify the correct assailant (and check if she were really short-changed at the same time) within five minutes.

I've got to the point of holding up and waving around 1,000bht notes and asking if they can change this amount before handing them over now. Too many shops, restaurants and bars doing the you only gave me 500 (or 100) bht scam.

Another Thai police victimize foreigners story.

I've never bee cheated in an 7-11 and I use them most days and often give 1000 baht notes. On a separate issue, I got a taxi a few month back and gave a 100 baht note for an 80 baht fare. I told him to keep the change and left the taxi. Then as I was walking away he got out of the taxi and shouted after me. He said I'd given him 500 baht not 100, so he gave me 400 baht change. He could easily have driven off, but he didn't. I'm not sure why so many on here get ripped off regularly while others never do. Either the places they hang out, or something about the people. Judging from the attitudes on many farangs on TV (not you TP) I'm not surprised that they get ripped off. I'd probably want to rip them off as well, for being so disrespectful.

Yes, it sometimes seems there are two Thailands, the one I live in and the one that seems to leave certain individuals in a perpetual state of rage.

I've never been short-changed by anyone, although on several occasions I've been given too much change. I think some farangs have personal issues that cause them a great deal of worry and they manage to direct their frustrations onto those around them.

I cannot understand why people who are so unhappy about their lives in Thailand do not just go back to wherever they found life to be so great.

I had just collected over 60,000 baht and then remembered I need to buy some fruit at the open market. As I got the money out my wallet, I put it on the fruit display, picked up my purchases and went home. When I got home, I discovered my wallet was missing. The most likely place is I dropped it in the market. As I retraced my steps in the market, the lovely stall holder waved and shouted at me. She hoiked a very large handbag onto the counter and produced my wallet, together with a telling off for being so careless. I was so grateful, I offered her 500 baht, which she strongly refused. I have ever since bought all my fruit at that stall in gratitude and the lady has now become a friend. As previously said, some seem to live in an entirely different Thailand than we do.

[kiniyow]

Not All 7-11 Employees are Honest...I have been had several times in 7-11....You gave me a 100 note instead of a 500...Just last week an employee wanted to charge me 100 Baht for a loaf of bread which clearly stated 49 baht on the outside.....Hi season so Expect Scams in many places of business..It is not only the Jet Ski operators or Taxi's..

[Baerboxer]

As someone already pointed out.

One Russian lady hit a shop assistant with a plastic coke bottle, two Russian ladies were arrested.

Did they also arrest the shop assistant accused of stealing from the ladies?

7-11 have cameras, even the keystone cops could identify the correct assailant (and check if she were really short-changed at the same time) within five minutes.

I've got to the point of holding up and waving around 1,000bht notes and asking if they can change this amount before handing them over now. Too many shops, restaurants and bars doing the you only gave me 500 (or 100) bht scam.

Another Thai police victimize foreigners story.

Smashing implies glass rather than plastic. Shop assistants make mistakes, not necessarily with intent to steal. Easy to confuse different denomination notes if you're not paying attention and / or familiar with the currency. Maybe both took part in the aledged assualt. Another "foreigners are innocent victims of Thai police story" - maybe not.

Requesting that the manager be called and cashing up the till would have provided the answer. Maybe the cameras caught this too.

Lots of "maybes" - beause unless you were there you don't know.

Whatever, there is no excuse for an assault.

Edited November 29, 2012 by Baerboxer

[Morakot]

An age-old Russian custom to express dis/satisfaction!

Edited November 29, 2012 by Morakot

[asiawatcher]

7-11 sells Coke in glass bottles? Or did those girls manage to smash up a plastic bottle?

... and the small ones don't break easy - but then again, if (?) she did 'smash' it over a Thai head that would answer my question.

I having had that scam happen to me at MRT payment, Family Mart and also Tesco Lotus. Looking at the Russians and the way they are dressed, I don't think this is some drug Russian hooker conning staff...

Edited November 29, 2012 by Rimmer
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[Rimmer]

Inflammatory post removed

[Fgis]

This is thee way Russian are...

[TommoPhysicist]

Whatever, there is no excuse for an assault.

If I cause trouble with a Thai hooker, I'm gonna probably get bashed.

If I tried it on with a Russian hooker, should I expect a different outcome?

Common sense tells me same, same.

There is no excuse for not having common sense.

[Payboy]

7-11 sells Coke in glass bottles? Or did those girls manage to smash up a plastic bottle?

... and the small ones don't break easy - but then again, if (?) she did 'smash' it over a Thai head that would answer my question.

I having had that scam happen to me at MRT payment, Family Mart and also Tesco Lotus. Looking at the Russians and the way they are dressed, I don't think this is some drug Russian hooker conning staff...

Its the oldest trick in cash/counter scams. Just because it didn't happen to some doesn't mean that it doesn't happen to anyone in Thailand at all.

[tropo]

As someone already pointed out.

One Russian lady hit a shop assistant with a plastic coke bottle, two Russian ladies were arrested.

Did they also arrest the shop assistant accused of stealing from the ladies?

7-11 have cameras, even the keystone cops could identify the correct assailant (and check if she were really short-changed at the same time) within five minutes.

I've got to the point of holding up and waving around 1,000bht notes and asking if they can change this amount before handing them over now. Too many shops, restaurants and bars doing the you only gave me 500 (or 100) bht scam.

Another Thai police victimize foreigners story.

100 and 1000 baht notes can easily be confused, especially by first time tourists and people with poor eyesight. They're just different shades of brown and nearly the same size.

My guess is that the Russians thought they were handing over a 1000 baht note.

I've accidentally handed over a 500 baht note instead of a 100 baht to street vendors. The edges of those notes are nearly the same colour. I didn't get the change and didn't realise my mistake until later when I noticed my 500 baht note was missing.

[tropo]

I had just collected over 60,000 baht and then remembered I need to buy some fruit at the open market. As I got the money out my wallet, I put it on the fruit display, picked up my purchases and went home. When I got home, I discovered my wallet was missing. The most likely place is I dropped it in the market. As I retraced my steps in the market, the lovely stall holder waved and shouted at me. She hoiked a very large handbag onto the counter and produced my wallet, together with a telling off for being so careless. I was so grateful, I offered her 500 baht, which she strongly refused. I have ever since bought all my fruit at that stall in gratitude and the lady has now become a friend. As previously said, some seem to live in an entirely different Thailand than we do.

I don't think it is a matter of living in a different Thailand. I think it's more a case of you being very lucky to "lose" your wallet at the right place. A similar thing happened to me at a large department store in the Philippines. I was also lucky.

Don't count on this luck - better to be careful where you put your wallet.

Edited November 29, 2012 by tropo

[tropo]

Its the oldest trick in cash/counter scams. Just because it didn't happen to some doesn't mean that it doesn't happen to anyone in Thailand at all.

This must be the reason why they shout out loud "I received 1000" when you pay with big bills in supermarkets in PI. Do they ever do it here? I can't recall.

[Ohio]

I would like to see ALL the FACTS before passing an informed Comment, although some posters seem to have an incredulous insight , I don't know why people like me bother to Train as Investigators when all this 'sixth sense' insight is available.

BUT, 'Breaking' would suggest Glass - serious assault !

Incorrect Change ?? if so does not warrant such an assault. ! A better reaction would be to request / demand a Register / Till balance .

Large Denomination notes can be confused , what ever happened to Verbal Interaction to solve a problem ??

[tropo]

..... I don't know why people like me bother to Train as Investigators....

Large Denomination notes can be confused , what ever happened to Verbal Interaction to solve a problem ??

A Russia woman tried to communicate with a Thai woman - that's what happened. Most Russians cannot speak Thai or English, and most 7Eleven staff cannot speak English or Russian.

That's a difficult situation. I'm surprised as a trained investigator you didn't consider this. Perhaps it is time to go back to school.

Edited November 29, 2012 by tropo

[Verdana]

As someone already pointed out.

One Russian lady hit a shop assistant with a plastic coke bottle, two Russian ladies were arrested.

Did they also arrest the shop assistant accused of stealing from the ladies?

7-11 have cameras, even the keystone cops could identify the correct assailant (and check if she were really short-changed at the same time) within five minutes.

I've got to the point of holding up and waving around 1,000bht notes and asking if they can change this amount before handing them over now. Too many shops, restaurants and bars doing the you only gave me 500 (or 100) bht scam.

Another Thai police victimize foreigners story.

I've never bee cheated in an 7-11 and I use them most days and often give 1000 baht notes. On a separate issue, I got a taxi a few month back and gave a 100 baht note for an 80 baht fare. I told him to keep the change and left the taxi. Then as I was walking away he got out of the taxi and shouted after me. He said I'd given him 500 baht not 100, so he gave me 400 baht change. He could easily have driven off, but he didn't. I'm not sure why so many on here get ripped off regularly while others never do. Either the places they hang out, or something about the people. Judging from the attitudes on many farangs on TV (not you TP) I'm not surprised that they get ripped off. I'd probably want to rip them off as well, for being so disrespectful.

Yes, it sometimes seems there are two Thailands, the one I live in and the one that seems to leave certain individuals in a perpetual state of rage.

I've never been short-changed by anyone, although on several occasions I've been given too much change. I think some farangs have personal issues that cause them a great deal of worry and they manage to direct their frustrations onto those around them.

I cannot understand why people who are so unhappy about their lives in Thailand do not just go back to wherever they found life to be so great.

"sometimes seems there are two Thailands, the one I live in and the one that seems to leave certain individuals in a perpetual state of rage" is possibly one of the most appropriate responses I've seen on this forum.

[Morakot]

Its the oldest trick in cash/counter scams. Just because it didn't happen to some doesn't mean that it doesn't happen to anyone in Thailand at all.

This must be the reason why they shout out loud "I received 1000" when you pay with big bills in supermarkets in PI. Do they ever do it here? I can't recall.

I once saw a 7/11 a shop assistant, who was given a thousand Baht note by a customer, demonstratively holding up the banknote above her head towards a CCTV camera.

[Morakot]

Most Russians cannot speak Thai or English, and most 7Eleven staff cannot either.

What do the members of staff speak than? Burmese?

[tropo]

Most Russians cannot speak Thai or English, and most 7Eleven staff cannot either.

What do the members of staff speak than? Burmese?

Allow me to edit that comment.( I have corrected it on my earlier post - thanks for bringing it to my attention)

Most 7Eleven staff cannot speak English or Russian and most Russians cannot speak English or Thai.

Does that make sense now?

Edited November 29, 2012 by tropo

[bigbamboo]

Just surmising but I've never heard of someone being 'smashed' over the head with a plastic bottle and needing hospital treatment and how can you mistake 220 baht for a 1000?

Have to say also that I've never been cheated in a 7 Eleven in ten years here.

[Morakot]

Most 7Eleven staff cannot speak English or Russian

Ahh... Here's the big training opportunity for the "7/11 Academy"!