mania Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Yeah having watched the replay many time I see Marc was way over his head & had nowhere to go. If not for Lorenzo being the berm Marc would not have even made that turn. At Lorenzo's initial stand up of his bike Marc had his foot down & could not even start to lean the bike in. So yeah I can say it is racing & things happen but if this is going to be a regular thing with Marc then someone will get hurt. That is fine too if it is him alone. But if he takes another rider out of a season or worse that would be terrible. Hope he wises/grows up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 (edited) So what's the verdict? What did you think of Marc's pass on Lorenzo ? The utube's were withdrawn. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/motogp/22420902 some interesting views agree or not, doesn't matter. I find it interesting on other peoples takes but anyway here's my verdict :- I always download so watched it over again and a re-run from another angle, Marc had got in front started going a bit wide because of his entry speed and Jorge lean and barged into him from what I see in slow motion. If it had been the other way round Jorge would still be the accuser if anybody should grow up and be a man about it's Jorge, maybe his forgotten that MotoGP is about being a racer against others. Well done Marc, never seen anybody thrown a bike around in such a manner in a long time. Roll on France. Edited May 8, 2013 by Kwasaki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetongue Posted May 12, 2013 Author Share Posted May 12, 2013 Well I haven't watched it over and over but what I saw I'd have to differ with you Kwaka, except for the roll on France bit, oh and also the bit about Jorge, what did he expect Marc not to have a go Be that as it may racefans don't forget the superbikes are on tonight, 4.30 and 8 thai time. Tom is on pole fighting out the championship with Laverty who is second on the grid, the fly in the ointment Guintoli 3rd on the grid still leading the championship. Marco is about 5th, Checa is still banged up from last time so he wont be there, looks like his season (and Ducati's) is a goner already. Rea is still trying. Leon who, where? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 (edited) Yeah I have to agree too & as I said in racing yes anything can happen but.......... In this case Marc dove into a crack that was not big enough or soon enough To do so he had to go over his head & braking was so late that when he should have been leaned in he was still not only bolt upright but his left foot on the ground, so no chance to tip in If at the moment of impact you stop the video & draw an arrow from where their fronts are pointing Marc is pointing completely off the track & Jorge is headed down the track. It would be inevitable to clash & the only way not too would have been for Jorge to throw it away & head off the track if he truly knew Marc could hang that turn. Marc could not hang that turn & if not for Jorge acting as a berm Marc would have been completely off the track as he had basically given up when he put his foot down at turn in time. Actually everyone has seen the head on shots & it is not as good as a long shot like this one IMHO When you see this one you can see Marc drove it way off line Look at 10-11 seconds & see where Marc finally gets turned & only because of the berm Jorge provides http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1SzDh4kAts Even the upright shots you can see his foot is still on the ground & he is almost off the track well past tip in time But its all cool in love & war & if it is a one off no problem I do not agree with many who are like sharks with blood in the water & think it is great for the sport for this kind of thing to become the norm though. There can be plenty of excitement at 200mph with skill there need not be mad dash attempts & riding over ones head & hoping for the best.... At least not when others lives & careers are also on the line. Also yeah I am hoping for WSBK tonight....although last couple of times I tried to stream it was shut down. Like last nights session was But hope it will be up & if not re-runs will be there Looking forward to Next weeks too Rossi & Cal needs to perk up next & we will have a real mixed GP bag! Edited May 12, 2013 by mania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 First vid is a good angle funny how deceptive things look from different angles but like this one the best. #!France should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 WSBK coming in very good on livestream365 dot com Super Stock 1000 just ran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetongue Posted May 14, 2013 Author Share Posted May 14, 2013 Well Tom couldn't win, strange that Kawasaki has presumably been depowered to make the tyres last but he is down on both Aprilia and BMW, Monza is a power circuit and it told. Guinters doesn't seem to have the pace to stay with Laverty but keeps racking up points. Melandri will be a bit too inconsistent I feel and unless Sykes can get up there and win on some of the twistier circuits the championship comes down to Laverty or Guintoli, with Davies a remote possibility. Everyone else daylight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 How did you like that detour Sykes took off track & back on into teh same place? The announcers were funny the way they said......Oh Dear....shouldn't he have fallen into 4th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetongue Posted May 15, 2013 Author Share Posted May 15, 2013 Not sure of the rationale but I thought it was tolerated as long as you didn't make up a place but I see what you mean if the guy in 4th is right behind and Tom makes a mistake, misses his braking marker whatever, shouldn't he lose a spot. A rider would not be able to fairly judge such a penalty himself so it would have to be race direction and signs etc, too hard, easy way out - no penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kwasaki Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 (edited) FP2 22.jpg Gonna be close by the look of it. My 1st Marc. 2nd Val. 3rd Dani. Strange things going on with Cal, when he seems to be doing so good. Edited May 18, 2013 by Kwasaki 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Kwasaki, on 18 May 2013 - 12:30, said: Strange things going on with Cal, when he seems to be doing so good. I know !I kind of hope he pulls a great race out there in France Maybe that would give him some bargaining powers Does seem weird for them to be screwing with him but I also do not know the history of him not signing for 2 years before . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soihok Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Vale will emerge as we all know him this weekend. Long live the king!! Scott will take the honours also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soihok Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Just a song to suit the season....cheers. My birthday today,,, 48. Cheers, Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) Well Happy Birthday soihok ! About Lemans I would have to say it was a bit of a surprise to see Dovizioso get front row. Good on Ducati though & getting more brands into the final fight makes it all the better for us spectators Crutchlow nursing a small fracture near his shin will see how he goes. Edited May 19, 2013 by mania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetongue Posted May 19, 2013 Author Share Posted May 19, 2013 Well you'd be brave to tip against Marq, I don't think I will, still looking forward to whatever monkey business him and Jorge come up with (if any). Val, well from 8th he'll probably be 4th at the end of the first lap end of chapter. Cal had the big crash, but I think a good race coming up still, Dovi not normally a qualifier in 3rd could be a surprise. Redding looking good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) Oh what a great race that was Really Enjoyed it ! Edited May 19, 2013 by mania 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetongue Posted May 20, 2013 Author Share Posted May 20, 2013 Yes weather the great equaliser. Man can those guys control a bike in the wet like that. How? Again my hat is off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Yeah the rain made it very exciting. I initially thought Marc was done & could not handle the rain/wet but he proved me wrong & clawed his way all the way back. The Ducati of Dovizioso impressed me in Qualifying & then all thru the race so did Hayden really especially not plowing into Rossi when Rossi went down. Then of course Pedrosa was very good even after his early off track excursion Crutchlow? Awesome & glad he has some bargaining power to help in in his time of need. Although I am sure he was glad the race ended as Marc was on a mission I felt bad for Dovi & thought maybe he could hold onto that 3rd Very good racing I loved it !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 "soihok" your still only a baby many happy returns. Downloaded and watched last night and again this morning. Great race, I just said and thought it would be 1st Marc. 2nd Val. 3rd Dani. I was glad I was wrong well done Cal great race hope he gets the upgrade so he can keep with em in the dry. Marc was outstanding so skilled at such a young age. Dovi doing good too, good to see. Look forward to write ups as to what happened to Jorge and Val in that case too. Well done Scott how long before Marc and Scott meet on MotoGP hatchets at the ready. I watch on BBC 2 coverage and Cal in interview said that Herve came down with pen and contract to sign and Cal said he had his chance last week to do that, so still not clear what's happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 I watch on BBC 2 coverage and Cal in interview said that Herve came down with pen and contract to sign and Cal said he had his chance last week to do that, so still not clear what's happening.Yeah I saw that too & wondered what is going on. You can read back on some news here... http://www.motogp.com/en/news/riders/Cal+Crutchlow I read some last week & from what I could tell it was all rumors But yes seems some bad blood there now & that is never a good thing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 WSBK getting ready for Donington livestream365 coming in fine again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Well pretty much what the 2 races looked like after the initial couple of laps. Sykes was like a watch Biggest fear for Aprilia I think is that their riders dont take each other out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetongue Posted May 28, 2013 Author Share Posted May 28, 2013 A week down and out with dengue fever this time farking mossies, missed the WSBK too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 A week down and out with dengue fever this time farking mossies, missed the WSBK too. Dang take care & hope your feeling better! Don't miss Mugello I think it will be good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetongue Posted May 29, 2013 Author Share Posted May 29, 2013 feeling better except in the pocket. Caught race 2 sbk last night, Tom was on it for sure, I think they've got that Kwaka perfect for a track like Donington, only out and out speed tracks will get the Aprilia and BMW up there. Already sweating on Mugello Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 (edited) 2013 Iron balls guys are off.This is the full qualifying and race schedule for the 2013 Isle of Man TT fuelled by Monster Energy. The schedule may change due to weather or track condition delays. For up-to-the-minute information please check our facebook and twitter feeds or listen live to Manx Radio TT.Further details may be added to this schedule as they are confirmed.PRACTICESaturday, May 2518.20-18.45 - Solo Newcomers' speed controlled lap18.35-19.00 - Sidecar Newcomers' speed controlled lap18.50-19.50 - Lightweight TT/Newcomers (all solo classes)19.55-20.50 - SidecarMonday, May 2718.20-19.55 - Superbike/Superstock/Supersport/Newcomers (except Lightweight)20.00-20.50 - SidecarTuesday, May 2818.20-19.05 - Superbike/Superstock/Supersport/Newcomers (except Lightweight)19.10-19.55 - Supersport/Lightweight/Newcomers (all solo classes)20.00-20.50 - SidecarWednesday, May 2918.20-19.55 - Superbike/Superstock/Supersport/Newcomers (except Lightweight)20.00-20.50 - SidecarThursday, May 3018.20-19.10 - Sidecar19.15-19.55 - Superbike/Superstock/Supersport/Newcomers (except Lightweight)20.00-20.50 - Supersport/Lightweight/Newcomers (all solo classes)Friday, May 3118.20-19.10 - Sidecar19.15-19.50 - Supersport/Lightweight/Newcomers (all solo classes)19.55-20.25 - Superbike/Superstock/Supersport/Newcomers (except Lightweight)20.30-20.50 - TT ZeroSaturday, June 115.25-16.15 - Supersport/Lightweight TT Qualifying16.15 - TT Zero Challenge QualifyingMonday, June 312.30-13.00 - Sidecar TT Qualifying15.45-16.30 - TT Zero Challenge QualifyingWednesday, June 515.50-16.15 - Senior16.20-16.45 - LightweightRACESaturday, June 111.00 - Dainese Superbike (six laps)14.00 - Sure Sidecar 1 (three laps)Monday, June 310.45 - Monster Energy Supersport race 1 (four laps)14.00 - Royal London Superstock (four laps)Wednesday, June 510.45 - SES TT Zero (one lap)12.00 - Monster Energy Supersport race 2 (four laps)14.15 - Sure Sidecar 2 (three laps)Friday, June 710.15 - Bikesocial.co.uk Lightweight (three laps)13.00 - Pokerstars Senior TT (six laps)Please note this schedule is subject to change.http://www.iomtt.com/TT-2013.aspx Edited May 29, 2013 by Kwasaki 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Practice at Mugello looked good. Marc had another get off & this one was at a pretty high clip. Seems to be ok though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 (edited) Qualifying was pretty interesting. Cal was soooo close to Dov time for front row too. Also back to that get off Marc had.Seeing more clips now & he did actually bail out because hisbike was headed for that wall at over 200mphLook at this telemetry chart from his suit maker AlpineStarsShows he took some good hits & also went over 25G's force the suitmax out at that.Saw some video pics of him as he took off his helmet today & he does looklike he went a few rounds with a heavyweight boxer. http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2013/marquez+crash+telemetry Edited June 2, 2013 by mania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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