Non B Multi Entry Visa Vs One Year Visa Extension

[phuketrichard]

I dont know what to search for but.

A friend of mine runs a pre school here in Phuket an she gets a one year visa ( needs do 90 day reports)

one of the other teahers has a 1 year MULTI entry visa and needs leave every 90- days

They are getting my gf a work permit thru their lawyer and then we will go to Penang with all the paperwork for her non B visa

Whats the diferance in what u submit as to what u get ie

a 1 entry 90 visa which u extend in country or a 1 year muti entry visa

Thanks

[Mario2008]

a single entry visa is good 1 entry with up to 90 days of stay in Thailand and a multiple entry is valid for 1 year and during that year you can make an unlimited number of entries, each entry good for up to 90 days.

With both you can get an extension of stay for 1 year from immigration, with the correct paperwork. That would mean no more border runs every 90 days, but doing 90 day reports.

[lopburi3]

A non immigrant B visa will be single entry of 90 days at 2,000 baht (in local currency) or multi entry at 5,000 baht but some Consulates will not issue multi entry as most really employed for long term are expected to prefer extending there stay at immigration for 1,900 baht each year rather than making visa and entry trips.

[phuketrichard]

thanks for the resonse but not what i asked about

why would the owner/teacher obtain a non B 1 year visa and only have to do 90 day reports while the other teacher got a 1 year non B an has to do 90 day border runs.

so why? and will Penang issue a 1 year mutil entry visa ( u need do border runs every 90 days). or ONLY issue a single entry and tell her to extend in country.

She will have all correct paperwork and work permit ( wp3 ) done thru a lawyer that works with the school whose husband works at Phuket immgiration.

[Mario2008]

Penang will in all likelyhood only issue a single and expect that one gets an extension of stay from immirgation. That goes for most consulates in neigbouring countries.

Penang might also require a letter form the labour office, next to the WP3 form.

[PoorSucker]

thanks for the resonse but not what i asked about

why would the owner/teacher obtain a non B 1 year visa and only have to do 90 day reports while the other teacher got a 1 year non B an has to do 90 day border runs.

so why? and will Penang issue a 1 year mutil entry visa ( u need do border runs every 90 days). or ONLY issue a single entry and tell her to extend in country.

She will have all correct paperwork and work permit ( wp3 ) done thru a lawyer that works with the school whose husband works at Phuket immgiration.

Is the school capitalized with 2 million baht per foreigner and have a ratio of 4 Thai employees per foreigner?

if so both should get extension based on employment.

Extension of Thai Business Visa

The Thai "B" or Business Visa can be extended to a one year visa in country as follows.

The extension of the visa is normally based on employment and as such there are certain regulations governing the company who is employing you.

These are the regulations for the extension of the "B" Business Visa:

1. The business must be registered in Thailand.

2. The company must be capitalized to at least Baht 2 Million while operating fund must be at least Baht 1 Million.

3. The company must have a ration of at least 4 : 1 - Four Thais for every foreigner.

4. You must earn at least in accordance with the level specified for each nationality by the Labour Department.

Duration of the Extension

- One year at a time.

Documents required for the extension:

1. Application form (T.M. 7 )

2. Passport or document used in lien of passport and its copies .

3. The applicants 4 x 6 cm. photograph .

4. Extension fee Baht 1,900.-

5. The company letters certifying as follows ;

- Nature of business

- Reason or necessity in employing the applicant his / her position, salary and education background.

- Number of Thai and foreign employees.

6. Copies of work permit or receipt of work permit application.

7. Company's annual balance sheets.

8. The juristic persons Annual Income Tax Declaration Form (Form No.50) of the latest year and its receipt of payment.

9. Thai employees Monthly Income Tax Declaration Form (Form No.1 ) of the latest month and its receipt of payment.

10. The applicants Annual Income Tax Declaration Form (Form No.91) of the latest year and its receipt of payment.

11. The official letter that certify the registration of such juristic person.

12. Business Registration or Business License.

13. Value Added Tax Registration and list of share holders.

14. A map that indicate location of the Company.

15. For those who operate export business, the documentary evidence clarifying its export activities is needed.

16. For those who operate tourism business, the documentary evidence clarifying its total number of tourist that brought in by the company is needed.

Some Immigrations offices.

17. Picture of all the company's employees at work

18. Picture of all company's employees in front of the office with clear name of the company showing

N.B. In case of necessity , documents No.7 , 8 , 9 , and 10 can be substituted by the company letters stating its reason.

[phuketrichard]

Thanks

Is the school capitalized with 2 million baht per foreigner and have a ratio of 4 Thai employees per foreigner?

and if not??

she has at the moment 4 mil and 2 wp issued and has been told she can have one more issued from her lawyer.

only has 5 thai employees , i think

Its a pre school with about 25 kids ( age 2-7) and has all the correct documents for a legal school ( NOT international )

[IMA_FARANG]

Locally, in Southeast Asia the preferred method is to issue a 90 day non immigrant B visa to enter Thailand which is then extended for a year at your local immigration in Thailand. This extemsion requires 90 day reporting. As i said this is the preferred method now in S.E. Asia.

In Noth America and Europe it has been more common to issue a one year multi entry Non B visa. This type of visa does not require 90 day reporting, but each entry is good for only 90 days, so that means that every 90 days a person holding such a visa has to do a border run every 90 days to get another entry and another 90 day stay.

Both types of visa can be extended for a year in Thailand, and all EXTENSIONS require 90 day reporting at your local immigration im Thailand.

So it's entirely possible that one person got a one year multi entry visa in Europe or North America that requires birder runs every 90 days while another person got a 90 day single non B entry visa in S.E. Asia and is doing 90 day reporting now.

Both types of visas require the same documents to be issued ... it's the area that it was issued in that made the difference of the type of visa they recieved.

But as I said before, the PREFERRED visa is now becoming the 90 day single entry visa and then to have that visa extended for a year at a time at your kocal immigration in Thailand,

The rationale for this is that the local immgration office in Thailand has more direct control of the visa, since you eport drectly to them every 90 days.

Or so the immigration claims anyhow.

[Spoonman]

thanks for the resonse but not what i asked about

why would the owner/teacher obtain a non B 1 year visa and only have to do 90 day reports while the other teacher got a 1 year non B an has to do 90 day border runs.

the one reporting every 90 days is on an Extension, the one doing the border runs in on a Visa.

[ubonjoe]

The one with a multiple entry visa may have done it that way because a visa is not cancelled if the job ends. An extension of stay ends when the job ends and you must leave the country to get a new visa or an exempt entry.

[Spoonman]

The one with a multiple entry visa may have done it that way because a visa is not cancelled if the job ends. An extension of stay ends when the job ends and you must leave the country to get a new visa or an exempt entry.

Possibly the Salary was not sufficient enough to qualify for an extension.

[ubonjoe]

Not likely because they are apparently working as teachers which has no salary requirement to get the extension.

[PoorSucker]

Thanks

Is the school capitalized with 2 million baht per foreigner and have a ratio of 4 Thai employees per foreigner?

and if not??

she has at the moment 4 mil and 2 wp issued and has been told she can have one more issued from her lawyer.

only has 5 thai employees , i think

Its a pre school with about 25 kids ( age 2-7) and has all the correct documents for a legal school ( NOT international )

The Thai vs falang ratio explains why only one can get the extension at immigrations.

Problem for the others now is that KL has stopped issuing multiple entry non-B visas.

Penang wants capitalization of 8 million baht to issue one.

Friend of mine got one in Kota Bahru 15 months ago.

They demanded 8 months validity on WP though.

Not hear so many reports from there.

[Spoonman]

Not likely because they are apparently working as teachers which has no salary requirement to get the extension.

Yeah my bad, I forgot they bend the rules for tefl teachers.

[ubonjoe]

There is also no 4 to 1 employee ratio called for in police order 777/2551 for teaching.

2.7 In the case of a teacher, professor, or expert in a private educational institution: Each permission shall be granted for no more than one year.

(1) The alien must have been granted a non-immigrant visa (NON-IM).

(2) Said educational institution is permitted to operate by a relevant government agency. (3) The alien must have been confirmed and requested by the particular educational institution.

[phuketrichard]

There is also no 4 to 1 employee ratio called for in police order 777/2551 for teaching.

2.7 In the case of a teacher, professor, or expert in a private educational institution: Each permission shall be granted for no more than one year.

(1) The alien must have been granted a non-immigrant visa (NON-IM).

(2) Said educational institution is permitted to operate by a relevant government agency. (3) The alien must have been confirmed and requested by the particular educational institution.

WOW:

thanks to all

Now it all makes sense, Seems poor sucker is wrong and Joe is correct,

so much Opinion and what some one thinks is correct vs facts it makes it all so conusing

[PoorSucker]

WOW:

thanks to all

Now it all makes sense, Seems poor sucker is wrong and Joe is correct,

so much Opinion and what some one thinks is correct vs facts it makes it all so conusing

I think it comes up to if the employer is approved by Ministry of Education.

Same applies for those schools that can provide paperwork for non-ED.

(2) Said educational institution is permitted to operate by a relevant government agency.

[phuketrichard]

why cant Thailand make it easy like Cambodia .

You want a 12 month visa?? pay $285/year

u want a work permit?? pay $50 and some tax and do what you want.

Soon ur going to need a lawyer to help ya do anything and than u will need him to be THAI so he can explain the rules to immigration :-)