Difference Of Values, Thailand Still Surprises After 10 Years

[canuckamuck]

My wife asked me yesterday if I noticed the dog wasn't around. I said which dog? There were two, plus a stray had shown up the day before.

She said "the dog, the main dog", the one you like".

"Where has he gone", I asked?

"My dad sold him".

"What?"

"He sold the dog to someone".

"Not the awesome dog? The one that was great with the kids, was very friendly but protected the Yard? You must mean the other one; the one that bites everyone and is tied up all day? The one he uses for hunting?".

'No, the dog you liked."

"Why?.

"Because someone gave him 500 baht for it".

"Why?"

"To eat I guess".

" You can get 500 baht for a dog to just to eat?".

"I guess so".

"But why pay for a dog when there are strays all over?".

"It is not that easy, those dogs all belong to someone, somewhere. You can't just kill someone's dog"

"But I have never seen a dog as good as that one in Thailand; the kids could roll all over him and pull his tail, pull his ears, and he would just let them. And he was healthy and smart, and a great guard dog. Why eat a good dog?".

"I guess because they talked about it".

"Well he should have talked to me because I would have beat any offer for that dog."

...Silence

[mauGR1]

Very sad story.

[HeijoshinCool]

Very sad story.

Very sad story.

Yeah, I really hope the OP wasn't trying to be funny, but I'm not sure.

Tell us, Canuck, that you are devastated ....

[Lancelot]

Whats the old rhyme "East is east and west is west and never the two shall meet..."

The longer I'm here, the less I understand the place.

I just keep saying (to myself) It is what it is...

[canuckamuck]

Very sad story.

Very sad story.

Yeah, I really hope the OP wasn't trying to be funny, but I'm not sure.

Tell us, Canuck, that you are devastated ....

Absolutely gutted, full of rage, and at the same time understanding that it wasn't my dog and there isn't anything I can do to assuage the reality.

[NeverSure]

My condolences. I love (good) dogs. I would be outraged too. This is a good lesson for me. If I get attached to a dog like that I'll try to buy it sooner. Maybe he would have taken your 500 baht? Who would think?

It's a shame.

[chrisinth]

Wonder how they cooked it?

Garlic or ginger?

Edit for the smiley, don't want you to take me seriously..............

[h90]

you married into the wrong family.....

[cdnvic]

In the context of this story, criticism is expected, but insults and derogatory comments about a member's spouse or family will be dealt with very strongly, as they always are.

[Trembly]

A common way of getting around this is by putting collars on dogs you like to proclaim ownership. It wouldn't stop a committed dognapper but it would prevent situations like you describe as the collar would signify that the dog is yours and not your father in law's to sell or keep.

There are a couple of 'strays' near where I live that have been bestowed collars. They still don't have any specific owners but the fact that they wear collars signals to everyone that somewhere there is at least someone who would be very annoyed if anything happened to those dogs.

[canuckamuck]

you married into the wrong family.....

I understand the comment, Father in law is a piece of work for sure. Regardless, My wife is a treasure and the best decision I have made in life. Living on the land she inherited is a separate issue, and it comes with challenges such as the OP.

[loong]

Who fed the dog, you or your FIL?

Was it your FIL's to sell?

If it didn't actually own and care for the dog and you do, he should have discussed it with you first.

[h90]

you married into the wrong family.....

I understand the comment, Father in law is a piece of work for sure. Regardless, My wife is a treasure and the best decision I have made in life. Living on the land she inherited is a separate issue, and it comes with challenges such as the OP.

sorry if I sounded to hard.....I just thought if my father in law would sell my dog and got a bit of a knot in my stomach....

Still the story is very though.....will you have a word with him? Or best sell his car to the next Cambodian without asking him...

(I still have my dog in my mind and thinking of cooking him)

[rct99q]

Interesting read. Have four dogs myself and to tell you the truth my wife would beat the living crap out of anybody (family or not) who tried this. But we had a neighbor, there is always a but, whose dog ate one of the FIL chickens. And he was pissed. So to make a long story short the neighbor finally agreed to sell his dog to the brother of my FIL for 200 baht and he cooked and ate the thing in front of the neighbors family. Some sort of if you ever do this again kind of thing...

No problems with the neighbors since that day three years ago.....Thailand is what it is.

[inthepink]

Interesting read. Have four dogs myself and to tell you the truth my wife would beat the living crap out of anybody (family or not) who tried this. But we had a neighbor, there is always a but, whose dog ate one of the FIL chickens. And he was pissed. So to make a long story short the neighbor finally agreed to sell his dog to the brother of my FIL for 200 baht and he cooked and ate the thing in front of the neighbors family. Some sort of if you ever do this again kind of thing...

No problems with the neighbors since that day three years ago.....Thailand is what it is.

I think you should qualify your statement and say rural Thailand is what it is. This type of behaviour is not encountered outside of dirt poor farming areas as far as I am aware and not in many of those either.

[krisb]

So your fil stole from you. Nice work. If he was my fil, he would be out of the krisb family circle of trust.

[h90]

Interesting read. Have four dogs myself and to tell you the truth my wife would beat the living crap out of anybody (family or not) who tried this. But we had a neighbor, there is always a but, whose dog ate one of the FIL chickens. And he was pissed. So to make a long story short the neighbor finally agreed to sell his dog to the brother of my FIL for 200 baht and he cooked and ate the thing in front of the neighbors family. Some sort of if you ever do this again kind of thing...

No problems with the neighbors since that day three years ago.....Thailand is what it is.

my wife actually beat the crap out of our neighbors. We took care of a lovely dog with 3 legs, who lived on the street. Our nice neighbor made a lovely small house for him and we both fed him.

the other ugly neighbor loved to send his dog (some big European) to bite him and told everyone that he doesn't need to feed his dog anymore because it can eat our dog food.

Once my wife saw them when they were about to tell their dog to attack the poor 3 leg dog, she went on the street and shouted something at them. The neighbor (the elderly man) banged her on the head. She had still the stick in the hand for separating the dogs, so she trashed it on him, on his wife, daughter (maybe 25 years old) and someone else till the run away.

The dog fought the dog of successfully so the complete family was on the run. (to note my wife is very small, and the 4 neighbors are pretty large, and the stick was a thin old bamboo)

Later the went in hospital and than to police station. The police station was pretty nice and it ended in nothing. Since than the dog stay in our garden.

[h90]

So your fil stole from you. Nice work. If he was my fil, he would be out of the krisb family circle of trust.

stole and killed it (selling as food is basically killing it). And of course took the money into the own pocket, or?

[canuckamuck]

Some misunderstanding here. As I said in post #6, He wasn't my dog, but he was a good friend who liked to spend time with me more than anyone else. We shared a few meals together, but I wasn't the one who fed him normally.

No one stole my dog, The extended family dog was sold without my knowledge.

[krisb]

Interesting read. Have four dogs myself and to tell you the truth my wife would beat the living crap out of anybody (family or not) who tried this. But we had a neighbor, there is always a but, whose dog ate one of the FIL chickens. And he was pissed. So to make a long story short the neighbor finally agreed to sell his dog to the brother of my FIL for 200 baht and he cooked and ate the thing in front of the neighbors family. Some sort of if you ever do this again kind of thing...

No problems with the neighbors since that day three years ago.....Thailand is what it is.

my wife actually beat the crap out of our neighbors. We took care of a lovely dog with 3 legs, who lived on the street. Our nice neighbor made a lovely small house for him and we both fed him.

the other ugly neighbor loved to send his dog (some big European) to bite him and told everyone that he doesn't need to feed his dog anymore because it can eat our dog food.

Once my wife saw them when they were about to tell their dog to attack the poor 3 leg dog, she went on the street and shouted something at them. The neighbor (the elderly man) banged her on the head. She had still the stick in the hand for separating the dogs, so she trashed it on him, on his wife, daughter (maybe 25 years old) and someone else till the run away.

The dog fought the dog of successfully so the complete family was on the run. (to note my wife is very small, and the 4 neighbors are pretty large, and the stick was a thin old bamboo)

Later the went in hospital and than to police station. The police station was pretty nice and it ended in nothing. Since than the dog stay in our garden.

Problem with 3 legged dogs is everytime they pee against a tree, they fall over

[maturebrit]

My wife asked me yesterday if I noticed the dog wasn't around. I said which dog? There were two, plus a stray had shown up the day before.

She said "the dog, the main dog", the one you like".

"Where has he gone", I asked?

"My dad sold him".

"What?"

"He sold the dog to someone".

"Not the awesome dog? The one that was great with the kids, was very friendly but protected the Yard? You must mean the other one; the one that bites everyone and is tied up all day? The one he uses for hunting?".

'No, the dog you liked."

"Why?.

"Because someone gave him 500 baht for it".

"Why?"

"To eat I guess".

" You can get 500 baht for a dog to just to eat?".

"I guess so".

"But why pay for a dog when there are strays all over?".

"It is not that easy, those dogs all belong to someone, somewhere. You can't just kill someone's dog"

"But I have never seen a dog as good as that one in Thailand; the kids could roll all over him and pull his tail, pull his ears, and he would just let them. And he was healthy and smart, and a great guard dog. Why eat a good dog?".

"I guess because they talked about it".

"Well he should have talked to me because I would have beat any offer for that dog."

...Silence

he sold it because it wasnt his and it meant nothing to him.. simple as that

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[HeavyDrinker]

You should have laid claim to him and bunged a collar on him.

What a shame. Sickens me to the stomach...

[jingjoe8]

where the hell do you people live......

[DP25]

This isn't an example of 'Thai' values, it is an example of the family you married in to. You should also consider the possibility, that the father deliberately sold the dog because he knew you liked it. Might be something going on there.

[h90]

Interesting read. Have four dogs myself and to tell you the truth my wife would beat the living crap out of anybody (family or not) who tried this. But we had a neighbor, there is always a but, whose dog ate one of the FIL chickens. And he was pissed. So to make a long story short the neighbor finally agreed to sell his dog to the brother of my FIL for 200 baht and he cooked and ate the thing in front of the neighbors family. Some sort of if you ever do this again kind of thing...

No problems with the neighbors since that day three years ago.....Thailand is what it is.

my wife actually beat the crap out of our neighbors. We took care of a lovely dog with 3 legs, who lived on the street. Our nice neighbor made a lovely small house for him and we both fed him.

the other ugly neighbor loved to send his dog (some big European) to bite him and told everyone that he doesn't need to feed his dog anymore because it can eat our dog food.

Once my wife saw them when they were about to tell their dog to attack the poor 3 leg dog, she went on the street and shouted something at them. The neighbor (the elderly man) banged her on the head. She had still the stick in the hand for separating the dogs, so she trashed it on him, on his wife, daughter (maybe 25 years old) and someone else till the run away.

The dog fought the dog of successfully so the complete family was on the run. (to note my wife is very small, and the 4 neighbors are pretty large, and the stick was a thin old bamboo)

Later the went in hospital and than to police station. The police station was pretty nice and it ended in nothing. Since than the dog stay in our garden.

Problem with 3 legged dogs is everytime they pee against a tree, they fall over

no they can lean on the three....they only need to remember to use the right side......

usually it does not look pretty when he walks, unless he sees a cat than he can reach almost full 4 leg speed....

[Trembly]

This isn't an example of 'Thai' values, it is an example of the family you married in to. You should also consider the possibility, that the father deliberately sold the dog because he knew you liked it. Might be something going on there.

Indeed. I've met characters as you suggest before . . .

[swissie]

Whats the old rhyme "East is east and west is west and never the two shall meet..."

The longer I'm here, the less I understand the place.

I just keep saying (to myself) It is what it is...

"East and West". I have given up to truly find common grounds. The whole value system and the way we socially interact is so completely different, there is no bridge large and broad enough to change this fact. No marriage certificate between a Farang and a Thai Lady will change it.

Cheers.

[canuckamuck]

Whats the old rhyme "East is east and west is west and never the two shall meet..."

The longer I'm here, the less I understand the place.

I just keep saying (to myself) It is what it is...

"East and West". I have given up to truly find common grounds. The whole value system and the way we socially interact is so completely different, there is no bridge large and broad enough to change this fact. No marriage certificate between a Farang and a Thai Lady will change it.

Cheers.

Yes, East and West, may have some common ground, but on many things. It just doesn't come together.

Perhaps living in relative luxury has made some things artificially important to our culture that other cultures can't afford to be bothered with.

[canuckamuck]

This isn't an example of 'Thai' values, it is an example of the family you married in to. You should also consider the possibility, that the father deliberately sold the dog because he knew you liked it. Might be something going on there.

Indeed. I've met characters as you suggest before . . .

Technically it was his dog, although it was impossible to tell.

My father in law actually likes me quite a bit, he says that me and my brother n law are the only ones that give a crap about him. Actually I am simply respectful and have as little to do with him as possible. I am quite convinced though that he had no concept of how I felt about the dog. Because I don't think he can comprehend that a dog could be anything more than a tool or livestock. It is a concept out of reach.

[ggold]

This isn't an example of 'Thai' values, it is an example of the family you married in to. You should also consider the possibility, that the father deliberately sold the dog because he knew you liked it. Might be something going on there.

Must be nice to be paranoid!