Family Works On Pardon For Kamnan Poh

[Buchholz]

Hope the taxpayer isnt paying for his VIP suite in the hospital.

Medical care for prisoners is guaranteed and is to be provided for by the Department of Corrections' funding. As he is interred at Chonburi prison, which has no medical facilities of its own, he is temporarily lodged at a hospital outside the prison in Chonburi.

However, in accordance with the Penitentiary Act, and being how he's so seriously sick and all, he should soon be transferred and returned to Bangkok to the Department of Corrections own hospital there. That's why it exists. To receive and medically treat prisoners from all over the whole country.

relevant sections of the Penitentiary Act

– Medical Correctional Institution: the only medical correctional hospital located in Bangkok. It is responsible for sick prisoners in the capital city and its surrounding areas. Moreover, if prisoners are in serious condition and cannot be effectively cured by staff of medical center in each prison, patients will be transferred from prisons all around country to the hospital.

- Sick prisoners can request medical treatment free of charge. Sick prisoners that require medical treatment exceeding the capabilities of the prison will be transferred to a nearby public hospital or the Medical Correctional Institution.

- Every prisoner has the right to access to health care and medical services as same as other people do.

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So the taxpayer is footing the bill.

Possibly this is something that should be given attention in the media, banner headlines something like:

TAXPAYERS PAY FOR EXPENSIVE VIP MEDICAL CARE FOR CONVICTED MURDERER

I'm not sure if the taxpayers are definitively paying for his care or if the godfather's family is rebating any government expenditures or assisting with any out-of-the-ordinary expenses... but they would be within their rights to expect that the government pay the tab.

I agree wholeheartedly that the situation bears closer scrutiny to determine the actual status.

With at least 1.585 Billion Baht in assets, it would be a further travesity of justice if Kamnan Poh didn't pay.

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[Keesters]

He's doing what all old folks do, when they see themselves shuffling off the mortal coil soon. Finding God and asking forgiveness to try to get into heaven lol.

Being a "good" Buddhist, Somchai will, when he's dead, first burn at the Wat, then be reincarnated as a soi dog.

Soi dog or sewer rat? I'd go for the later as the former are generally well taken care of. Also the later seems more fitting considering his actions in this lifetime.

[bigbamboo]

He's doing what all old folks do, when they see themselves shuffling off the mortal coil soon. Finding God and asking forgiveness to try to get into heaven lol.

Being a "good" Buddhist, Somchai will, when he's dead, first burn at the Wat, then be reincarnated as a soi dog.

Soi dog or sewer rat? I'd go for the later as the former are generally well taken care of. Also the later seems more fitting considering his actions in this lifetime.

Probably come back as the Dogfather.

[slipperx]

Yes do your duty as a son - that you should do. But you cannot the carry on as a person serving your country because your two responsibilities conflict. You have to choose - country or duty as a son. For me I would choose as a son in which case resign and whilst you're at it say how. Corruption is killing your country. I guess there is no honour left in Thailand - maybe once but now corruption has eaten it like a cancer.

[scorecard]

The poor guy is sick.

They should release him and let him spend his final days at home with his family. ....

Another vote for no rules, and ignore the pillars of building and maintaining a civil society. All desperately needed in this country.

So I guess your going to take your 'vote' to the streets and campaign for every old and sick Thai prisoner, regardless of their crime, to be released and go home.

So what about the folks who believe that someone being incaserated it fitting punishment for nasty & evel deeds, would you suggest they are wrong to demand justice and appropriate puinishment, for two reasons:

- 1). Punishment for speciific nasty acts

- 2). A message to society at large that society punishes people for nasty acts, and a message that says punishment is fair and applied to all, regardless of family or connections, no double stanrads!.

Edited February 8, 2013 by scorecard

[bigbamboo]

The poor guy is sick.

They should release him and let him spend his final days at home with his family. ....

Another vote for no rules, and ignore the pillars of building and maintaining a civil society. All desperately needed in this country.

So I guess your going to to take your your 'vote' to the streets and campaign for every old and sick Thai prisoner, regardless of their crime, to be released and go home.

So what about the folks who believe that someone being incaserated it fitting punishment for nasty & evel deeds, would you suggest they are wrong to demand justice and appropriate puinishment, for two reasons:

- 1). Punishment for speciific nasty acts!

- 2). A message to society at large that society punishes people for nasty acts, and a message that says punishment if fair and applied to all, regardless of family or connections.

If the poor guy is so sick how about they let the family spend his last days with him at the prison hospital instead.

[Buchholz]

The poor guy is sick.

They should release him and let him spend his final days at home with his family. ....

Another vote for no rules, and ignore the pillars of building and maintaining a civil society. All desperately needed in this country.

So I guess your going to to take your your 'vote' to the streets and campaign for every old and sick Thai prisoner, regardless of their crime, to be released and go home.

So what about the folks who believe that someone being incaserated it fitting punishment for nasty & evel deeds, would you suggest they are wrong to demand justice and appropriate puinishment, for two reasons:

- 1). Punishment for speciific nasty acts!

- 2). A message to society at large that society punishes people for nasty acts, and a message that says punishment if fair and applied to all, regardless of family or connections.

If the poor guy is so sick how about they let the family spend his last days with him at the prison hospital instead.

As noted previously, that is what is required in accordance with the law... but we can't have them complying with that.

Where would it all end if they began following the law?

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[OzMick]

Yes do your duty as a son - that you should do. But you cannot the carry on as a person serving your country because your two responsibilities conflict. You have to choose - country or duty as a son. For me I would choose as a son in which case resign and whilst you're at it say how. Corruption is killing your country. I guess there is no honour left in Thailand - maybe once but now corruption has eaten it like a cancer.

But if the son quit his government job, he would become a non-entity and liable to prosecution for aiding and abetting a criminal. He might even end up in jail!

[arthurboy]

I bitterly remember the text in Bangkok Post concerning the death of Ah-Kong or Ampol Tangnopakul or "Mr. SMS" in Klong Prem Central Prison's hospital:

"Dr Kittibun Techaporn-anan, 39, the resident doctor, said he was with the hospital director when Ampon died.

He said a ward nurse had contacted him to say Ampon's heart had stopped and they were trying to revive him.

He could not attend to help because he had been instructed by the hospital director to welcome the director-general of the Corrections Department, who was visiting the prison."

The way Khun Ampon was treated - he was suffering from terminal cancer and died alone - was inhumane and disgusting - in every way.

Reasons for imprisonment aside, the glaringly double standards applied in the case of a convicted murderer and mafia boss again highlight the true nature and attitudes of the people in 'charge' in Thai society.

As Buchholz pointed out in post 52 above, Poh should have been transferred to the 'Department of Corrections own hospital' - the procedure is clear on the matter - so why wasn't he?

When the news of Kamnan Poh's arrest broke, staff at work broke into a sweat of excitement over the event, albeit for only a few minutes. Later, after the office drama had died down, I casually asked some people what they thought about the latest murders in the south and how the government was handling it.

Anyone care to guess the response?

Edited February 8, 2013 by arthurboy

[DiNiro]

The poor guy is sick.

They should release him and let him spend his final days at home with his family. ....

Another vote for no rules, and ignore the pillars of building and maintaining a civil society. All desperately needed in this country.

So I guess your going to take your 'vote' to the streets and campaign for every old and sick Thai prisoner, regardless of their crime, to be released and go home.

So what about the folks who believe that someone being incaserated it fitting punishment for nasty & evel deeds, would you suggest they are wrong to demand justice and appropriate puinishment, for two reasons:

- 1). Punishment for speciific nasty acts

- 2). A message to society at large that society punishes people for nasty acts, and a message that says punishment is fair and applied to all, regardless of family or connections, no double stanrads!.

He has money and important friends. You can't put people like him in jail....and besides, people in Chonburi love the guy.

[arthurboy]

The poor guy is sick.

They should release him and let him spend his final days at home with his family. ....

Another vote for no rules, and ignore the pillars of building and maintaining a civil society. All desperately needed in this country.

So I guess your going to take your 'vote' to the streets and campaign for every old and sick Thai prisoner, regardless of their crime, to be released and go home.

So what about the folks who believe that someone being incaserated it fitting punishment for nasty & evel deeds, would you suggest they are wrong to demand justice and appropriate puinishment, for two reasons:

- 1). Punishment for speciific nasty acts

- 2). A message to society at large that society punishes people for nasty acts, and a message that says punishment is fair and applied to all, regardless of family or connections, no double stanrads!.

He has money and important friends. You can't put people like him in jail....and besides, people in Chonburi love the guy.

Money, important friends, loved or not. Poh belongs in prison.

End of.

[DiNiro]

The poor guy is sick.

They should release him and let him spend his final days at home with his family. ....

Another vote for no rules, and ignore the pillars of building and maintaining a civil society. All desperately needed in this country.

So I guess your going to take your 'vote' to the streets and campaign for every old and sick Thai prisoner, regardless of their crime, to be released and go home.

So what about the folks who believe that someone being incaserated it fitting punishment for nasty & evel deeds, would you suggest they are wrong to demand justice and appropriate puinishment, for two reasons:

- 1). Punishment for speciific nasty acts

- 2). A message to society at large that society punishes people for nasty acts, and a message that says punishment is fair and applied to all, regardless of family or connections, no double stanrads!.

He has money and important friends. You can't put people like him in jail....and besides, people in Chonburi love the guy.

Money, important friends, loved or not. Poh belongs in prison.

End of.

Technically, he did see the Chonburi prison.

That was probably traumatic enough for a high society figure like him.

Sure he didn't spend any time in a cell but a man of his stature should not have to endure this.

Jails are for poor, black skinned people.

[Buchholz]

When the news of Kamnan Poh's arrest broke, staff at work broke into a sweat of excitement over the event, albeit for only a few minutes.

As someone who has closely followed his case for over a decade, I have to admit I shared your staff's excitement when I first broke the news on the forum.

I never anticipated that the authorities would actually ever send him to prison and was amazed when they first did..

Amazing Thailand never stops amazing.

A team of police commandos (to thwart any rescue attempt) have escorted him to prison.

He has been taken to Bangkok Remand Prison after he was medically cleared.

He'll be free in 30 years and 4 months at the age of 104.

http://www.dailynews...th/crime/181504

That excitement was dashed was within days when he transferred to Chonburi.

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[Buchholz]

The poor guy is sick.

They should release him and let him spend his final days at home with his family. ....

Another vote for no rules, and ignore the pillars of building and maintaining a civil society. All desperately needed in this country.

So I guess your going to take your 'vote' to the streets and campaign for every old and sick Thai prisoner, regardless of their crime, to be released and go home.

So what about the folks who believe that someone being incaserated it fitting punishment for nasty & evel deeds, would you suggest they are wrong to demand justice and appropriate puinishment, for two reasons:

- 1). Punishment for speciific nasty acts

- 2). A message to society at large that society punishes people for nasty acts, and a message that says punishment is fair and applied to all, regardless of family or connections, no double stanrads!.

He has money and important friends. You can't put people like him in jail....and besides, people in Chonburi love the guy.

Far more people in Chonburi fear him than love him and many of those that do profess to loving him do so out of fear.

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[FarangTalk]

People are quick to blame the corrupt politicians and officials in positions of power for travesties of justice such as this one but the reality is that Thai society is fundamentally flawed in the way it allows people to behave ethically and morally.

Recently there have been a glut of these 'travesty of justice' stories which quickly disappear off the radar. Monied and connected people paying their way out of punishment for crimes only signals one thing; the system is broken. If a lack of ethics and morality on such a level can be tolerated, it will eventually lead to a total breakdown of law and order as it emboldens the general public to emulate and believe they can also escape punishment for criminality (which is certainly true to a degree already).

The future does not look bright at all for this country.