lemoncake Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 In this case and with many others like Saddam Hussein, Chez Guevara et al, respect for the dead does not equate. That depends who is looking at it. Many in Iraq believe they were much better off when Saddam was in power, and look at Egypt now. Chavez, was not liked by the West and made friends with the worst, but he did look after his people yep he built such a great country that's why you choose thailand to live and not venezuela look at the facts, high inflation, country such a pile of crap that the president goes to mexico for his healthcare.. give us a break in praising another crazy left wing nut feeding on his own people blood Am I Venezuelan? You ever read or think before you post? For starters he went to Cuba not Mexico 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemoncake Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 (edited) Well have you heard of any retards coming to power and controlling the entire country for 16 years?So people are either "retards" or very, very, very smart?Sent from my iPad using ThaiVisa ap May be you know another way to rise through the ranks, take over the leadership of a country and then control it for 16 years Edited March 6, 2013 by lemoncake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemoncake Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 One thing when it comes to dictators of any kind is that people only see the bad, which is natural. HOWEVER to be a dictator of a country and rule it for as long as he has, one has to be a very very very smart man. But was he a "Goodie" or a "Baddie" ? Again, depends who you ask. Personally i have not been affected by him or the country, so it makes no difference to me what so ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemoncake Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 (edited) In this case and with many others like Saddam Hussein, Chez Guevara et al, respect for the dead does not equate. That depends who is looking at it. Many in Iraq believe they were much better off when Saddam was in power, and look at Egypt now. Chavez, was not liked by the West and made friends with the worst, but he did look after his people As long as you were on his side. I am on no one's side, simply stating what i see and read. Amazingly, the number of people who have not been affected by him at all, spend all that time discussing and yet none have much of idea what and who he really was. The only source of information all of you have is what media prints. Edited March 6, 2013 by lemoncake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 An off-topic post has been deleted. The topic is about Hugo Chavez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Hugo Chávez will be remembered for making friends with US enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 (edited) The USA has the best quality medical care in the world for those who have access, but still even now (Obamacare is just starting) the worse rate of ACCESS to any medical care of any so called civilized country. Cuba has decent quality and excellent access. Not a big secret to any Americans who are awake. Yes Chavez was into ranting anti-American propaganda. Just because he just died, does that mean it has to be repeated? Edited March 6, 2013 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 MOSCOW, March 6 (RIA Novosti) – The death of Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez from cancer may have been part of a plot by the United States to infect its enemies in Latin America with the disease, the leader of Russia’s Communist party, Gennady Zyuganov, speculated on Wednesday http://en.rian.ru/russia/20130306/179849093/Chavez-Death-Could-Be-US-Plot--Russian-Communist-Leader.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 MOSCOW, March 6 (RIA Novosti) – The death of Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez from cancer may have been part of a plot by the United States to infect its enemies in Latin America with the disease, the leader of Russia’s Communist party, Gennady Zyuganov, speculated on Wednesday http://en.rian.ru/russia/20130306/179849093/Chavez-Death-Could-Be-US-Plot--Russian-Communist-Leader.html Incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Banzai99 Posted March 6, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted March 6, 2013 OMG, ThaiVisa members now cry crocodile tears for a corrupt murdering dictator, un, freeking believable ............. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackr Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 one less dictator, Castro is next. Though I'd prefer to see Mugabe go first, any order will do as long as the world is rid of these people. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 One thing when it comes to dictators of any kind is that people only see the bad, which is natural. HOWEVER to be a dictator of a country and rule it for as long as he has, one has to be a very very very smart man. "Dictator"? Democratically elected numerous times does not a dictator make! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 In this case and with many others like Saddam Hussein, Chez Guevara et al, respect for the dead does not equate. What a ridiculous statement! the man was democratically elected numerous times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancealot Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 RIP Chavez . He was good to make a stand against western imperialism and good for his people but sometimes he should have taken more attention to his own country instead of focusing in international politics. I followed him for the past 10 years and saw he diod good and bad. But the most important thing i have to say about him is that he had balls and was not afraid to back up a global revolution. I for one am worried what will happen now to the underground Ahmadinejad/Castro/Santos/Putin pact to counter the USA. On the flipside Is Assange still running for aussie government? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 R.I.P. Hugo Chavez, a giant of a man, a defender of the people and not afraid to stand up to the American capitalist imperialist bullies! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crazygreg44 Posted March 6, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted March 6, 2013 For me he will be remembered as a man who was never afraid to speak about the truth of things. A man with charisma, character and a vision. Not really a dictator, not a despot, absolutely never a bloody killer, despite the rumours his enemies try to spread. A real South-American bred, man of eloquenzia & corazon & machismo. You need to know the heartbeat of the spaniards to understand what people feel for their "caudillos". Unspeakable in our anglo-consumerist world. We are too saturated too understand why the Venezolean people admired Hugo. I love for all and the most that he was the only world leader to oppose automatic support of G.W.Bush's "war against terrorism". For me the highlight was his response to Bush's rhetoric " Who is not with us, is against us" to which he responded in only 5 words : " Bush is a stupid donkey". He was never a Kim Jong Il, never an Ahmadinedschad, he was HUGUITO, the great diversivicator. I love politicans like him . . got more guts than all the nay-yes-sayers of so called "democracies". Anyone who thinks the USA is a democracy, please raise your hand. I am sure you vote will be noticed and understood. Rest in Peace, Huguito. today I will not shed any tears. Fighters for freedom and justice, for the poor and the enslaved, it is no time for tears. The fight goes on, this is Hugo's legacy, and it will live on forever. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 an article which I posted here yesterday got deleted. It wasn't controversial. What happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancealot Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 an article which I posted here yesterday got deleted. It wasn't controversial. What happened? Dont know what happened, but can you put into your own words, what was the subject summary of the article? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 I can see it was remove for fair use. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 I can see it was remove for fair use. ? ah okay. But it was fully attibuted with a link to the original? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johna Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 RIP, we lose another great man, what I would really like to see is jerks like Thatcher, Blair, Osbourne Hague et al get cancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancealot Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 RIP, we lose another great man, what I would really like to see is jerks like Thatcher, Blair, Osbourne Hague et al get cancer Why the negativity It's a big loss already.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 In this case and with many others like Saddam Hussein, Chez Guevara et al, respect for the dead does not equate. That depends who is looking at it. Many in Iraq believe they were much better off when Saddam was in power, and look at Egypt now. Chavez, was not liked by the West and made friends with the worst, but he did look after his people As long as you were on his side. I am on no one's side, simply stating what i see and read. Amazingly, the number of people who have not been affected by him at all, spend all that time discussing and yet none have much of idea what and who he really was. The only source of information all of you have is what media prints. An ally who turned against him and joined the opposition was arrested and locked up for corruption. His words on Hard Talk. Strange how this guy only became corrupt when he was no longer a friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancealot Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 (edited) Lemoncake has made a valid point about Saddam but a bad comparison with Chavez. Mosha has a more focused opinion. @Mosha i think people are born corrupt and sadly this will not change within their lifetimes. I also think people are born strong and good heart-ed and this will also not change. Edited March 7, 2013 by Dancealot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I can see it was remove for fair use. ? ah okay. But it was fully attibuted with a link to the original? As stated it was removed due to violation of fair use laws. It is generally accepted, but not written into law, that quoting the first two or three sentences of an article and giving a link to the source is considered “fair use” and not a violation of copyright. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rsokolowski Posted March 7, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted March 7, 2013 Hugo Chavez is dead. He was said to be a champion of the poor and powerless. At the time of his death he had amassed something close to two thousand million US dollars. I think I need to get into the being a champion of the poor.... it seems to pay well. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiangmaikelly Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 (edited) That depends who is looking at it. Many in Iraq believe they were much better off when Saddam was in power, and look at Egypt now. Chavez, was not liked by the West and made friends with the worst, but he did look after his people As long as you were on his side. I am on no one's side, simply stating what i see and read. Amazingly, the number of people who have not been affected by him at all, spend all that time discussing and yet none have much of idea what and who he really was. The only source of information all of you have is what media prints. An ally who turned against him and joined the opposition was arrested and locked up for corruption. His words on Hard Talk. Strange how this guy only became corrupt when he was no longer a friend. A walkout by virtually all of PDSA's (State owned oil) management and technical staff in 2002 led to a purge of more than 20,000 of Venezuela’s most highly qualified professionals: a massive, self-inflicted brain drain that has hobbled Venezuelan oil production ever since. http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/b744f394-8657-11e2-ad73-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2MoTDBDZK Edited March 7, 2013 by chiangmaikelly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 The general consensus is that he was a DESPOT not a dictator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keemapoot Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 The general consensus is that he was a DESPOT not a dictator. Yes, those lovable, huggable despots. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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