Teacher Disciplined At East Pattaya School After Facebook Video Goes Viral

[Fookhaht]

Frankly I'd rather she have that stick than my iPhone!

In Thailand, the teacher is GOD!

Edited March 6, 2013 by Fookhaht

[manarak]

Frankly I'd rather she have that stick than my iPhone!

In Thailand, the teacher is GOD!

this one was well deserved

[prakhonchai nick]

If corporal punishment is the norm in Thai schools, it should be carried out by an independent 3rd party, based upon reports supplied by the teacher concerned, The child should have a right to defend him/herself.

This caning was by the teacher herself, who clearly lashed out with viciousness, and as such deserves punishment, It was no ordinary caning. It clearly went well beyond the norms for a Thai school, and this woman is unfit to remain in a classroom.

[RabC]

If corporal punishment is the norm in Thai schools, it should be carried out by an independent 3rd party, based upon reports supplied by the teacher concerned, The child should have a right to defend him/herself.

This caning was by the teacher herself, who clearly lashed out with viciousness, and as such deserves punishment, It was no ordinary caning. It clearly went well beyond the norms for a Thai school, and this woman is unfit to remain in a classroom.

You have Zero grounds to comment, what was shown was a limited clip, no one here can comment on what led to this outburst. I agree the teacher was a little OTT. The left wing tree hugging brigade have already ruined all moral values in the west so let the Thais sort out their own please.

I have to add I am surprised as your flag is from a nation that specialised in exporting child beating teachers globally.

Edited March 6, 2013 by RabC

[prakhonchai nick]

If corporal punishment is the norm in Thai schools, it should be carried out by an independent 3rd party, based upon reports supplied by the teacher concerned, The child should have a right to defend him/herself.

This caning was by the teacher herself, who clearly lashed out with viciousness, and as such deserves punishment, It was no ordinary caning. It clearly went well beyond the norms for a Thai school, and this woman is unfit to remain in a classroom.

You have Zero grounds to comment, what was shown was a limited clip, no one here can comment on what led to this outburst. I agree the teacher was a little OTT. The left wing tree hugging brigade have already ruined all moral values in the west so let the Thais sort out their own please.

I have to add I am surprised as your flag is from a nation that specialised in exporting child beating teachers globally.

What a stupid remark. I, as a parent of Thai children have EVERY right to comment. Indeed it was a limited clip -but was more than sufficient. Did she continue caning this poor little sod? And it matters not what led to the outburst. It was beyond all reasonable norms!

And do NOT bring my Nationality into it. Every country has it's faults! No doubt yours too!

[Nonja]

This is soooooooooooooo normal in Thai schools!

This happens everyday at most government schools!

Go check out some of the schools, and see how many Thai teachers are carrying sticks.

Only news because it's a farang.

I bet you 10000 baht he deserved it, and deserved more.

Um: have you read the thread? The last time I saw the video it was a female Thai teacher. My eyes must be much worse than I thought.

[lemoncake]

Video still up on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc0m50ZNAgw

Call me crazy, but watching the video, it sure does sound loud, but looking at the kid it does not seem it was painful and he hardly moved.

[lemoncake]

Frankly I'd rather she have that stick than my iPhone!

In Thailand, the teacher is GOD!

this one was well deserved

Totally agree, what a disrespectful little ass.

[RabC]

If corporal punishment is the norm in Thai schools, it should be carried out by an independent 3rd party, based upon reports supplied by the teacher concerned, The child should have a right to defend him/herself.

This caning was by the teacher herself, who clearly lashed out with viciousness, and as such deserves punishment, It was no ordinary caning. It clearly went well beyond the norms for a Thai school, and this woman is unfit to remain in a classroom.

You have Zero grounds to comment, what was shown was a limited clip, no one here can comment on what led to this outburst. I agree the teacher was a little OTT. The left wing tree hugging brigade have already ruined all moral values in the west so let the Thais sort out their own please.

I have to add I am surprised as your flag is from a nation that specialised in exporting child beating teachers globally.

What a stupid remark. I, as a parent of Thai children have EVERY right to comment. Indeed it was a limited clip -but was more than sufficient. Did she continue caning this poor little sod? And it matters not what led to the outburst. It was beyond all reasonable norms!

And do NOT bring my Nationality into it. Every country has it's faults! No doubt yours too!

I merely stated here no one could comment on what led to the outburst.... As to being a parent of Thai children, why does that make you a better judge of corporal punishment? Should we look at the cause of the degradation of morals in the western world. Just because Europe has lost a grasp of social values why should you as the father of Thai kids dictate that Thailand too should let go of its standards. Edited March 6, 2013 by RabC

[Songhua]

Frankly I'd rather she have that stick than my iPhone!

In Thailand, the teacher is GOD!

this one was well deserved

If she'd also smashed the one it's being openly filmed with we'd never have gotten to see it.

[prakhonchai nick]

If corporal punishment is the norm in Thai schools, it should be carried out by an independent 3rd party, based upon reports supplied by the teacher concerned, The child should have a right to defend him/herself.

This caning was by the teacher herself, who clearly lashed out with viciousness, and as such deserves punishment, It was no ordinary caning. It clearly went well beyond the norms for a Thai school, and this woman is unfit to remain in a classroom.

You have Zero grounds to comment, what was shown was a limited clip, no one here can comment on what led to this outburst. I agree the teacher was a little OTT. The left wing tree hugging brigade have already ruined all moral values in the west so let the Thais sort out their own please.

I have to add I am surprised as your flag is from a nation that specialised in exporting child beating teachers globally.

What a stupid remark. I, as a parent of Thai children have EVERY right to comment. Indeed it was a limited clip -but was more than sufficient. Did she continue caning this poor little sod? And it matters not what led to the outburst. It was beyond all reasonable norms!

And do NOT bring my Nationality into it. Every country has it's faults! No doubt yours too!

I merely stated here no one could comment on what led to the outburst.... As to being a parent of Thai children, why does that make you a better judge of corporal punishment? Should we look at the cause of the degradation of morals in the western world. Just because Europe has lost a grasp of social values why should you as the father of Thai kids dictate that Thailand too should let go of its standards.

Does it really matter what led to the outburst? This teacher clearly went over the top on the punishment she was permitted to give. That is the issue here.

I am not saying I am against corporal punishment (see my earlier posts) I am saying it should be carried out within reason, and not with obvious hatred as displayed in the clip) and by a 3rd party not directly involved

I believe all parents of children at risk of this sort of corporal punishment have a right to speak out. Problem is that Thais rarely speak out about anything -and that is largely behind the problems with Thailand.. Too much greng -jai!

Parents are scared to speak to their kids -and vice versa-hence all the unwanted pregnancies. The public are scared to speak out about inefficiency, corruption etc etc, so the problems perpetuate. It's always mai phen rai!

I rest my case.

[RabC]

If corporal punishment is the norm in Thai schools, it should be carried out by an independent 3rd party, based upon reports supplied by the teacher concerned, The child should have a right to defend him/herself.

This caning was by the teacher herself, who clearly lashed out with viciousness, and as such deserves punishment, It was no ordinary caning. It clearly went well beyond the norms for a Thai school, and this woman is unfit to remain in a classroom.

You have Zero grounds to comment, what was shown was a limited clip, no one here can comment on what led to this outburst. I agree the teacher was a little OTT. The left wing tree hugging brigade have already ruined all moral values in the west so let the Thais sort out their own please.

I have to add I am surprised as your flag is from a nation that specialised in exporting child beating teachers globally.

What a stupid remark. I, as a parent of Thai children have EVERY right to comment. Indeed it was a limited clip -but was more than sufficient. Did she continue caning this poor little sod? And it matters not what led to the outburst. It was beyond all reasonable norms!

And do NOT bring my Nationality into it. Every country has it's faults! No doubt yours too!

I merely stated here no one could comment on what led to the outburst.... As to being a parent of Thai children, why does that make you a better judge of corporal punishment? Should we look at the cause of the degradation of morals in the western world. Just because Europe has lost a grasp of social values why should you as the father of Thai kids dictate that Thailand too should let go of its standards.

Does it really matter what led to the outburst? This teacher clearly went over the top on the punishment she was permitted to give. That is the issue here.

I am not saying I am against corporal punishment (see my earlier posts) I am saying it should be carried out within reason, and not with obvious hatred as displayed in the clip) and by a 3rd party not directly involved

I believe all parents of children at risk of this sort of corporal punishment have a right to speak out. Problem is that Thais rarely speak out about anything -and that is largely behind the problems with Thailand.. Too much greng -jai!

Parents are scared to speak to their kids -and vice versa-hence all the unwanted pregnancies. The public are scared to speak out about inefficiency, corruption etc etc, so the problems perpetuate. It's always mai phen rai!

I rest my case.

An eloquently and well put argument and not a lot I would wish to counter.

[zoroastra999]

I thought perverted school teachers got jail time and a verbal thrashing from the Thai-Visa 'Hang em High Brigade'. Can anyone explain why sado-masochists as a group can get away scot free?

[khaowong1]

Video still up on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc0m50ZNAgw

If I was a parent and seen this video.. wow.. I would probably end up in jail. There is no call for this kind of behavior.. I would make that teachers life so miserable, she would move to another province.

We have a auto license plate here in Arizona that a lot of people here buy and put on their cars..

"It should not hurt to be a child".. I am a strong advocate of child abuse. I won't put up with it in public. If I see a parent smacking their kid around at a mall or store, I get in their face. It's my theory, abuse breeds abuse.

[FDog]

If I had kids I'd happily have her teach them. That cane doesn't hurt too much, used to get it all the time. It's more noise and embarrassment.

Even if it did hurt, get on with it. Do your bloody homework, learn.

This is how it used to be and just look at how it is now that the cane has gone. A bunch of spoilt brats that think they can do anything they damn well please with no responsibilities.

[FDog]

Frankly I'd rather she have that stick than my iPhone!

In Thailand, the teacher is GOD!

What a great woman, smashes the phone then just keeps on teaching without skipping a beat. Good on her.

[Geekfreaklover]

It's not that difficult to control a body of people (kids or adults) without hitting them. Using peer preasure and reward systems the trick can be done quite easily.

The teacher in the clip looks young and inexperienced. She's probably hitting the kid because her boyfriend cheated on her the night before.

No excuse to hit a kid like that. Happens everyday though, and the non-violent discipline in schools in the West doesn't seem to produce better results.

Kids need to be taught discipline at home.

And putting kids to work (as one poster suggested) rather than into schools isn't the answer.

[Ian Curtis]

Of course, today is a different world from my day and the rules have obviously changed.

After seeing the video I can definitely say that it is mild compared to what we got. Also, we don't know what the caning was for?

Going back to my school days:

For a serious caning we were not allowed to keep our trousers on! Also, we preferred a master to cane us any day rather than a school Prefect. Prefects' were vicious. I can recall being caned for being seen around town over a weekend by a Prefect; One of my socks was down and my tassled hat was not straight - result - caned on Monday morning.

I was also caned numerous times when I had done nothing!

I also have the distinct recollection of a woman teacher who would rap the back of our hands but with the ruler edgewise on - still brings tears to my eyes!

The first thing our rugby master did before practice was to get a willow cane from a tree by the sports ground and all I can say is, "Thank God I wasn't a forward". Those poor buggers who were, got a vicious whack from the willow cane for not packing low enough in the scrum. Mind you, he was a jolly good sport because he played for the staff (and friends!) against the school 1st XV. He took the inevitable injuries extremely well!!

The only part that I ever reported to my father was our rugby master - he smiled.

I know that discipline has gradually eased from my schooldays because as a senior master at a school in the UK I was authorised to cane but, it was more often than not for bullying and it was also just a token gesture because the boy had been reminded of his actions each morning in assembly as he stood on the stage for the week preceding the caning on the coming Friday.

Nowadays, teachers are not allowed to chastise the little darlings in any way!

So what am I saying; the old cliché that it did me no harm - it didn't do me any harm - but is that relevant in today's world - I don't honestly know?

However, going back to the video, it does look as though the teacher had 'lost her calm' which is something that should never happen. When meting out punishment you must ACT angrily but never BE angry. I would guess that she 'lost it' which was wrong.

[Greer]

Video still up on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc0m50ZNAgw

If I was a parent and seen this video.. wow.. I would probably end up in jail. There is no call for this kind of behavior.. I would make that teachers life so miserable, she would move to another province.

We have a auto license plate here in Arizona that a lot of people here buy and put on their cars..

"It should not hurt to be a child".. I am a strong advocate of child abuse. I won't put up with it in public. If I see a parent smacking their kid around at a mall or store, I get in their face. It's my theory, abuse breeds abuse.

Sorry but you or any other passer by have zero right to intercede - you have no idea about the circumstances. If my child was naughty and refused to do as they were told, they would be in trouble - as a result they are absolutely fantastic kids who fit well in society and are well behaved, knowing the difference between what is socially acceptable and what is not. Unlike an awful lot of the children I see in western countries. Correct control over children and teaching them how to behave, leads to them knowing where to draw the line, and helps to give them the tools to fit into the society. Western countries are raising social misfits, but the holier-then-thou brigade insist on destroying social fabric with the constant attacks on any controls placed on anti-social behaviour in the name of some kind of "freedom". Its not a "maybe" either - look around your "advanced western" world and see what you have done.

[BlackPuddingBertha]

Most of what is wrong with people under 40 or 50 today can be put down to a lack of proper discipline when they were young. Children need to have some manners and respect beaten into them as it is the only way most of them will ever learn. It's just a shame that the beatings aren't applied to their parents also for not having taken their parental responsibilities seriously.

[stoli]

This teacher needs some Anger Management classes.

[Locationthailand]

My school days were filled with canings of students and in every case we probably deserved it. Did us no harm but taught us to live by the rules of the 'system'. The old days of spare the rod and spoil the child are long gone with the litigious nature of the west these days, but not here.

On a recent lecture at a top Uni here I had a girl student walk into class, dropped her head to the desk and went to sleep the minute she got there. I removed her from the class and told her if she had no interest then no point distracting other students. There is no need to hit kids as a little reasoning and subtle ridicule can work far better. The admin at the uni were surprised I took the action however, I stood my ground and told them if the attitude changes she is welcome back anytime. It was not her fault as I later found out, it was hi-so parents who ignored her so she would go out with friends until midnight or clubbing. A lot of the problems stem from dysfunctional families.

This teacher here is wrong, but I also think if arrogance from students is prevalent a lot these days, maybe not such a bad idea.

Did you read your own post? Did you just say that a university student's parents are to blame because they hang out with friends and go clubbing until late and don't get enough rest? Give me a freaking break. Where are you from Mars? Last time I was a university student I was considered an ADULT and could no longer point the finger and blame my parents if I chose not to take care of my responsibilities.

Hi-so kids going to Uni's for the sake of the all important degree and social standing in the Thai Community does not mean they receive an education. Adult's they may claim to be - with mentality still of children. So being irresponsible as a parent, by allowing little Lek or Somchai out until all hours, yes, comes back to the parents and the kids upbringing, respect and understanding of obligation. But maybe your university days were filled with atypical irresponsible acts, smoking dope and partying. Glad to see you considered yourself an 'ADULT'. And this thread is about corporal punishment.

[Emdog]

I was a teacher of emotionally disturbed gangsters (mostly crips and bloods) in the USA for several decades. I had one student whose mother was from Ghana. He was getting out of control, so she sent him to Ghana for a year for schooling.

When he came back he said "They don't let you get away with anything. You get out of line and they beat you!" I asked "Did you stay in line?" His answer "Hell yes, I don't want to get my ass whupped!" This was one of my smarter, more likable students. He fell back into his old patterns on his return, knowing we could not touch him. He was good at working the system.

He was sent to prison his senior year for arson and attempted murder. Seems he set his girlfriend's parents house on fire.

I am not in favor of corporal punishment. But like the old hitting the mule with a two by four between the eyes joke "I believe in treating them gentle, but first ya got to get their attention."

[dighambara]

This was no ordinary caning. It was a vicious attack by a teacher on a child. Despicable!

Shame on the family for not taking matters further than the headmaster.

The Police should have been involved, and the teacher should have been charged wiht assault. I believe she deserved a prison sentence of minimum 3 months. Further she should have lost her job -all pension etc earned should be lost and she should never be allowed to work with children again.

If I were the parent - and failing the above - I would take matters into my own hands!

Vicious cow!!!

I couldn't watch the video, because youtube has already pulled it - a situation which makes me wonder why ThaiVias doesn't have temporary video storage to support it's stories.

If she was emotionally invoved, then she shouldn't be the one administering the punishment.

However, the boy didn't die, apparently wasn't struck on the head and apparently wasn't hospitalized, so your complaint seems far fetched.

However, Prakhonchai, you must be much younger than I, because such punishment was standard in elememntary schools when I was a kid. I worked hard, because I didn't want a 'hack' or a yardstick across my buttocks.

Yes, the greater the mistake, the greater the punishment; wrestling in the locker room = 5 hacks with a 2 foot by 6 inch paddle. Missing my homework was a yardstick across my butt.

Naturally, all the children were very well behaved, and homework always arrived on time, because no one wished punishment.

[TommoPhysicist]

Nice pigtails ...... I wouldn't mind her caning me!

[Joe Mamma]

After snowshoeing 5 miles to school, a brisk beating by the teacher seemed to loosen the tight muscles and the long sittings in the corner were good times of meditation. It got me ready to fight thru the bullies and thugs after school. I still long for those tough love days!

[vijer]

NO TEACHER has the right to beat or Cain a STUDENT !!!! I have a child in a Thai school and every year I let the teacher know if she beats or cains my child that I will do the same to her !!! If my child acts up or does something wrong then let my know about it and I will deside what kind of punishment my child should have !!!! So far we have never had a problem at school

Difference being that I suspect you have raised your child to behave in class, many of the Thai students don't. I have never seen such a goofy system. I think if Thai schools had detention that would solve a lot of problems, detention would inconvenience the parents, many of whom use the school as a baby sitter. Many students are dropped at school at 6AM, hours before class so the parent can go to work, and are not picked up until after 5-6PM. If a parent had to return to school at 8-9PM to retrieve their child they might discipline their child.

I went to catholic schools until I was 12 and we got spankings and rulers across the knuckles when we misbehaved, did no harm. Beating is one thing, a good smack is another.

Edited March 7, 2013 by vijer

[candypants]

Frankly I'd rather she have that stick than my iPhone!

In Thailand, the teacher is GOD!

this one was well deserved

its brilliant because she just resumes without skipping a beat. no histrionics, no rant just makes her point and is done.

i will bet that she hasn't had a problem with cellphones since

Edited March 7, 2013 by candypants

[Potosi]

If corporal punishment is the norm in Thai schools, it should be carried out by an independent 3rd party, based upon reports supplied by the teacher concerned, The child should have a right to defend him/herself.

This caning was by the teacher herself, who clearly lashed out with viciousness, and as such deserves punishment, It was no ordinary caning. It clearly went well beyond the norms for a Thai school, and this woman is unfit to remain in a classroom.

You have Zero grounds to comment, what was shown was a limited clip, no one here can comment on what led to this outburst. I agree the teacher was a little OTT. The left wing tree hugging brigade have already ruined all moral values in the west so let the Thais sort out their own please.

I have to add I am surprised as your flag is from a nation that specialised in exporting child beating teachers globally.

Spot on. The left in the west has abandoned all the virtues kids must be taught, discipline, truthfulness, courage, perseverance, self-reliance, honour, and you know what? Because there is no left in Thailand their kids are positively imbued with these virtues. It must be gratifying to have the privilege to teach children like these, and the abuse of a pupil by this teacher is all the more inscrutable.

[candypants]

Most of what is wrong with people under 40 or 50 today can be put down to a lack of proper discipline when they were young. Children need to have some manners and respect beaten into them as it is the only way most of them will ever learn. It's just a shame that the beatings aren't applied to their parents also for not having taken their parental responsibilities seriously.

'nuff said really, you have become a cliche