Dual Nationality -

[Maestro]

Thanky you, yannic. I must have understood you wrong when you wrote:

...aquiring Thai citizenship after the age of 20 will automatically invalid your AUS citizenship, if both your parents were originally Thai.

[SeaVisionBurma]

she aquired thai at birth then migrated to aus then got after I dont know how many years aus citizenship with 20 she should decide, she did keep aus citizenship so does not have thai anymore. With aquiring thai again she invalids her aus citizenship.

Only if she would be the daughter of the Aus and Thai at birth then she would keep it a lifetime.

Ridiculous post. The OP is already a dual citizen. The OP already quite clearly has both Thai and Australian citizenship.

Did you not read her opening post?

[yannic]

she aquired thai at birth then migrated to aus then got after I dont know how many years aus citizenship with 20 she should decide, she did keep aus citizenship so does not have thai anymore. With aquiring thai again she invalids her aus citizenship.

Only if she would be the daughter of the Aus and Thai at birth then she would keep it a lifetime.

Ridiculous post. The OP is already a dual citizen. The OP already quite clearly has both Thai and Australian citizenship.

Did you not read her opening post?

maybe you did not read it, she stated that she was born to a Thai mother and Thai father making her a Thai and not a Dual citizen. When she got her Aus citizen then only then would she have dual citizenship, she would keep it until 20 then she must decide!

[yannic]

she also states that she has both passports in different names which is the reason she got again a Thai passport. But its not legal!

[SeaVisionBurma]

she aquired thai at birth then migrated to aus then got after I dont know how many years aus citizenship with 20 she should decide, she did keep aus citizenship so does not have thai anymore. With aquiring thai again she invalids her aus citizenship.

Only if she would be the daughter of the Aus and Thai at birth then she would keep it a lifetime.

Ridiculous post. The OP is already a dual citizen. The OP already quite clearly has both Thai and Australian citizenship.

Did you not read her opening post?

maybe you did not read it, she stated that she was born to a Thai mother and Thai father making her a Thai and not a Dual citizen. When she got her Aus citizen then only then would she have dual citizenship, she would keep it until 20 then she must decide!

The OP arrived here on an Australian passport. She is an Australian citizen, and when she arrived here (at aged 24) she obtained both her Thai citizen ID card, and her Thai Passport - thereby making her a dual citizen. The OP is already now a dual citizen.

[SeaVisionBurma]

she also states that she has both passports in different names which is the reason she got again a Thai passport. But its not legal!

I can think of several reasons why this might happen, particularly in the OP's case - and all perfectly legal.

Yannic - stop scaremongering the poor girl!

[yannic]

ok I read some more about it I think you are right and I am wrong. I know its the case with many countries but it seems not be the case with Thailand. :-)

[kirstymelb101]

I assume 'Yannic' thinks I cheated somehow by fooling authorities I'm two different people. I did not fool or cheat anyone. I have a change of names certificate, which I showed the officer at the place of my birth register ALONG with my Oz passport to prove my identity. My change of name Cert. was in fact the only piece of evidence that certified and linked me to my family. Without it, non of this would be possible..

Edited March 9, 2013 by kirstymelb101

[Jay Sata]

Whatever passport you hold Thailand will never remove your Thai citizenship once you have it.

The last Democrat prime minister Aabhisit Vejjajiva was born and grew up in the UK and holds joint Thai/UK citizenship.

Thaksin has multi passports so worry not.

[SeaVisionBurma]

Whatever passport you hold Thailand will never remove your Thai citizenship once you have it.

The last Democrat prime minister Aabhisit Vejjajiva was born and grew up in the UK and holds joint Thai/UK citizenship.

Thaksin has multi passports so worry not.

Agreed.

OP - you now have a special gift which most people in the world never will have - dual citizenship providing you with 2 passports!!

Enjoy the extra benefits and flexibility it brings, it really helps especially if you travel a lot.

SVB

[phuketrichard]

agree with Jay stata;

Thaksin holds passports for various countries and I even think he still holds his Diplomatic Thai one ( i know there was talk of taking it away , not sure if they did)

he is over 20 and both his parents are Thai's

OP don't worry, BUT use the right passport at the right time

[Mario2008]

Whatever passport you hold Thailand will never remove your Thai citizenship once you have it.

The last Democrat prime minister Aabhisit Vejjajiva was born and grew up in the UK and holds joint Thai/UK citizenship.

Thaksin has multi passports so worry not.

You must make a distinction between a person who has a Thai passport by way of birth and a person who applies to be naturalized as a Thai citizen. For persons being born Thai, there is no problem. Simply because the law doesn't provide for the situation in which you don't make a choice when you are 20, as a result it can not be taken away.

Persons naturalizing as a Thai national should be more careful, as for them using their other nationality (inside Thailand) is grounds to revoke their Thai nationality. (Immigration is under instructions to report such persons).

[kirstymelb101]

It's been a few days now and I'm still feeling very anxious about overstaying this long. If I inform the authorities about my situation, I doubt I'll get into any real trouble. But can someone please suggest options I could possibly consider so I have a sense of direction.

Regards, Kirsty <3

[ubonjoe]

Honestly I would not worry about it.

Since you are Thai and have a passport you should be able to leave the country without any problem using your Thai passport.

The only way there ever could be a problem would be if you for some reason let immigration see your other passport when leaving or entering the country.

[Mario2008]

As a Thai national, you cannot be detained etc for being ilegally in the country. What will happen when you leave the country with your froeign passport is that you simply must pay the overstay fee of 20,000 baht and you will be on your way.

Eeven the overstay fee you can dispute. A Thai judge will normally give a lesser fine than immigration, in your case a judge might even say that as a Thai citizen you canot be on overstay. It is unknown how a judge will react to such case. The problem is that at the airport you need to catch your flight so often it is better to just pay up than to challenge it.

If you go to an immigration office, they will probably just tell you to pay when you leave the country. But you could ask to fine you, refuse to pay and challange it in court if you want to make a case out of it.

[kirstymelb101]

Thank you very much for this informative information

[diddums]

Thank you everyone for the support, advice & knowledge I have gained from this forum. It has been much appreciated

You are most welcome.

I am also from Melbourne...if you would like to discuss these affairs over dinner some time....let me know.

[kirstymelb101]

I already have all the information I need. Better luck next time. But hey, I give you poits for trying Ka tod na ka 555+

[Trembly]

I actually never left and re-entered on my Thai passport. And my tourist Visa is long expired. I hope I don't get trouble. What will happen if I cross and re-enter on my Thai pp this late in time? Will I get in trouble? Will I have to pay a hefty fine? I'm very worried now. ahhhhh!

No need to worry. As long as you show your Thai passport when you leave or enter Thailand no one will ask to see your Australian passport, and as soon as your current Australian passport expires the whole matter will have disappeared altogether!

Edited March 12, 2013 by Trembly

[Trembly]

It's been a few days now and I'm still feeling very anxious about overstaying this long. If I inform the authorities about my situation, I doubt I'll get into any real trouble. But can someone please suggest options I could possibly consider so I have a sense of direction.

Regards, Kirsty <3

If you're really really really really really really really anxious about some ill-informed immigration official making your life hard over your visa over-stay then just lose the Australian passport containing the over-stayed visa. That way there is no smoking gun, so to speak.

[Mario2008]

It's been a few days now and I'm still feeling very anxious about overstaying this long. If I inform the authorities about my situation, I doubt I'll get into any real trouble. But can someone please suggest options I could possibly consider so I have a sense of direction.

Regards, Kirsty <3

If you're really really really really really really really anxious about some ill-informed immigration official making your life hard over your visa over-stay then just lose the Australian passport containing the over-stayed visa. That way there is no smoking gun, so to speak.

it will solve nothing as she still entered on an Australian passport. In addition she would perform a criminal act, as her passport is government property and she would need to make a false police report, which is another criminal act.

[samran]

Just leave on he oz passport, cop the 20k fine, jump a cheap flight to Singapore, and then come back using your thai passport. If they quibble about letting you in, stand your ground, speak to a supervisor, and you'll eventually be stamped in on your thai passport.

[diddums]

Why can't she just leave on the Thai one as if it is her first passport....brand new, which it is....but first ever.

Then arrive oz with oz passport and can show thai exit in thai passport ??

[samran]

Why can't she just leave on the Thai one as if it is her first passport....brand new, which it is....but first ever.

Then arrive oz with oz passport and can show thai exit in thai passport ??

She entered Thailand on the oz passport. We've had reports of data matching occurring when a person has tried to leave on the thai passport having first entered in the foreign one, and these people have been forced to depart Thailand on their foreign passport.

[diddums]

But does she not have a different name on this Thai passport ?

[samran]

But does she not have a different name on this Thai passport ?

Good point.

[Trembly]

It's been a few days now and I'm still feeling very anxious about overstaying this long. If I inform the authorities about my situation, I doubt I'll get into any real trouble. But can someone please suggest options I could possibly consider so I have a sense of direction.

Regards, Kirsty <3

If you're really really really really really really really anxious about some ill-informed immigration official making your life hard over your visa over-stay then just lose the Australian passport containing the over-stayed visa. That way there is no smoking gun, so to speak.

it will solve nothing as she still entered on an Australian passport. In addition she would perform a criminal act, as her passport is government property and she would need to make a false police report, which is another criminal act.

That rather depends on whether it's really lost / destroyed or not doesn't it?

Edited March 12, 2013 by Trembly

[SeaVisionBurma]

One nonsense post removed.

[BookMan]

I already have all the information I need. Better luck next time. But hey, I give you poits for trying Ka tod na ka 555+

I wish you had not told him that...we won't hear the end of it for the next ten years

Edited March 13, 2013 by BookMan

[ilgitano]

I would just leave/enter thailand on your thai passport. You have no further need to reenter on your Oz passport, and if anyone stops you on the street here, show them the thai passport.

Look up wiki dual nationality. You're dealing with two sets of laws, oz and thai. Oz permits dual nationality, but thailand does not, but its not enforceable.

In saudi arabia and other countries, it is a criminal offence to hold a second nationality, but in thailand it is not. It is just "not allowed"

just make sure you keep your oz passport out of sight while you're in thailand.