webfact Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Negotiations over libel lawsuit failThe NationRed-shirt leader Jatuporn Promphan is interviewed before joining court arbitration in a libel case filed against him by Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva.BANGKOK: -- Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva yesterday refused a defence offer for settlement of his libel suit against red-shirt leader Jatuporn Promphan.The settlement talks collapsed after Jatuporn had agreed to withdraw his remarks but stopped short of admitting to have lied.At the heart of the court battle is Jatuporn's allegation that Abhisit, then prime minister, ordered the "killings" in connection with the street protest in 2010.As plaintiff, Abhisit cited Jatuporn's two speeches, dated October 11 and 17, 2010, as evidence."In the presence of the mediating judge, Jatuporn and I had a closed-door meeting but failed to reach a settlement," Abhisit said.He said he found it unacceptable that Jatuporn would not renounce his fabricated remarks."The gravity of the allegation is too serious to just have it withdrawn without recanting," he said.Due to the failure to reach an out-of-court settlement, the trial would be resumed.The plaintiff had finished calling witnesses and presenting evidence. The judicial proceedings would pick up with the defence.Jatuporn is expected to be the sole witness testifying in his own defence.In the past three libel cases involving Abhisit and Jatuporn, two have been dismissed and one ended up with a guilty verdict and a suspended jail term.Jatuporn was acquitted for portraying Abhisit as a draft dodger in 2010.He was also acquitted for saying Abhisit had blood in his hands by cracking down on protesters in April, 2009.He was convicted for defamation, however, for alleging Abhisit's inappropriate conduct during a royal audience with His Majesty in 2009.In his initial sentencing, he was given a six-month imprisonment and ordered to pay a fine of Bt50,000.But the court cited his first-time offence as grounds for leniency and suspended his jail term for two years. As part of his punishment, he had to publish an apology in two national newspapers for seven days.-- The Nation 2013-03-09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) . No small wonder Jatuporn is eager to reach an out of court settlement. With his earlier prison sentence suspended because of being a first conviction and facing this case in which he blatantly lied and libeled and facing another conviction, he's eager to avoid the high probability of prison. Still, being Jatuporn, he's hesitant to admitting to it completely. . Edited March 9, 2013 by Buchholz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dcutman Posted March 9, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2013 . No small wonder Jatuporn is eager to reach an out of court settlement. With his earlier prison sentence suspended because of being a first conviction and facing this case in which he blatantly lied and libeled and facing another conviction, he's eager to avoid the high probability of prison. Still, being Jatuporn, he's hesitant to admitting to it completely. . Still, being Jatuporn, he's hesitant to admitting to it completely. One thing is for sure. Nobody is going to accuse Jutaporn of having any sound reasoning or judgement. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 . No small wonder Jatuporn is eager to reach an out of court settlement. With his earlier prison sentence suspended because of being a first conviction and facing this case in which he blatantly lied and libeled and facing another conviction, he's eager to avoid the high probability of prison. Still, being Jatuporn, he's hesitant to admitting to it completely. . Still, being Jatuporn, he's hesitant to admitting to it completely. One thing is for sure. Nobody is going to accuse Jutaporn of having any sound reasoning or judgement. You are right. With all the gifts he has been given (his words) reasoning and judgement were not among them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 One thing is for sure. Nobody is going to accuse Jutaporn of having any sound reasoning or judgement. ,,, Jatuporn is the intellectual soul of the Red Shirt movement. One thing to be sure of about the fugitive PM: he will never empower someone smarter than himself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dcutman Posted March 9, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2013 One thing is for sure. Nobody is going to accuse Jutaporn of having any sound reasoning or judgement. ,,, Jatuporn is the intellectual soul of the Red Shirt movement. One thing to be sure of about the fugitive PM: he will never empower someone smarter than himself. I will have to credit Mr T with that, but IMO he went to the extreme, choosing the one's with least intelligence. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Is it just me. Every time I see a picture of Jatuporn I think he will do quite well in prison. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) As Jatuporn's statement is a core red shirt belief, admitting it is/was a lie will not go down well with his mercenary mates or their paymaster. When found guilty, and quite possibly jailed, that the statement was proven to be a lie will be explained away as "judicial bias," or the amart taking care of their own. I'm sure that if incarceration is the result, Jatuporn will be amply compensated for his sojourn and people will continue you to give him valuable items for no explicable reason. Edited March 9, 2013 by OzMick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post reiltin Posted March 9, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2013 An admission of dishonesty-even if proven beyond all reasonable doubt isn't something in the Thai psyche,then nor is reason... “life is tough but its tougher when you're stupid” ― John Wayne 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 In the mean time Nuttawut just rolls along in the back ground, he's the one I fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Locationthailand Posted March 9, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2013 The Red motor mouth keeps opening is orifice to change feet. This time Abhisit is right in refusing this moron's slander settlement. If there is any judiciary still with half an ounce of intelligence, one 'could' hope for incarceration but many forget the Dubious Dubai puppet master replaced a lot of judges during his time, with blood relatives. Let's see, 1. road rage murder, 0 jail time 2. culpable driving resulting in death froman unlicensed girl, 0 jail time or conviction 3. summary execution in crowded bar by the son of the Deputy PM, 0 jail time or conviction 4. wealthy heir drunk and driving a Ferrari whilst speeding his titties off, 0 jail time or conviction (as yet - if ever) 5. Chonburi convicted murderer mafia mob boss to be detained in hospital indefinitely, 0 jail time BUT Magazine editor Somyot got 10 years for publishing 'sensitive' material The ongoing lese majeste - average 18 years for any offender from libel or slander So does this mean motor mouth will finally get his just deserts if not for inciting riots, seizure of Thailand's capital and burning of Bangkok et al, then at least 10+ for defamation and slander of a parliamentarian and former PM? Let's wait and see that outcome whilst Dubai and the puppet PM start making phone calls. My bet? Nothing will happen other than conviction and further jail suspension. I would love to be proven wrong. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 In the mean time Nuttawut just rolls along in the back ground, he's the one I fear..As a Cabinet Minister he has the most official power of the Red Shirts. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 The Red motor mouth keeps opening is orifice to change feet. This time Abhisit is right in refusing this moron's slander settlement. If there is any judiciary still with half an ounce of intelligence, one 'could' hope for incarceration but many forget the Dubious Dubai puppet master replaced a lot of judges during his time, with blood relatives. Let's see, 1. road rage murder, 0 jail time 2. culpable driving resulting in death froman unlicensed girl, 0 jail time or conviction 3. summary execution in crowded bar by the son of the Deputy PM, 0 jail time or conviction 4. wealthy heir drunk and driving a Ferrari whilst speeding his titties off, 0 jail time or conviction (as yet - if ever) 5. Chonburi convicted murderer mafia mob boss to be detained in hospital indefinitely, 0 jail time BUT Magazine editor Somyot got 10 years for publishing 'sensitive' material The ongoing lese majeste - average 18 years for any offender from libel or slander So does this mean motor mouth will finally get his just deserts if not for inciting riots, seizure of Thailand's capital and burning of Bangkok et al, then at least 10+ for defamation and slander of a parliamentarian and former PM? Let's wait and see that outcome whilst Dubai and the puppet PM start making phone calls. My bet? Nothing will happen other than conviction and further jail suspension. I would love to be proven wrong. .Jatuporn also had lese majeste charges pending.... Until, unlike many others, the charges were dismissed by the Dems antagonist, DSI Boss Tarit. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waza Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 As Jatuporn's statement is a core red shirt belief, admitting it is/was a lie will not go down well with his mercenary mates or their paymaster. When found guilty, and quite possibly jailed, that the statement was proven to be a lie will be explained away as "judicial bias," or the amart taking care of their own. I'm sure that if incarceration is the result, Jatuporn will be amply compensated for his sojourn and people will continue you to give him valuable items for no explicable reason. I think as far as Thaksin is concerned Jatuporn has outlived his usefullness and he would be happy for the big mouth to rot away in jail. Seems the only salvation for Jatuporn is a cabinet position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagwan Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Cannot Jatuporn afford a defence lawyer? Acting as ones own defence counsel is, as any lawyer will tell you, the act of a fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 As Jatuporn's statement is a core red shirt belief, admitting it is/was a lie will not go down well with his mercenary mates or their paymaster. When found guilty, and quite possibly jailed, that the statement was proven to be a lie will be explained away as "judicial bias," or the amart taking care of their own. I'm sure that if incarceration is the result, Jatuporn will be amply compensated for his sojourn and people will continue you to give him valuable items for no explicable reason. I think as far as Thaksin is concerned Jatuporn has outlived his usefullness and he would be happy for the big mouth to rot away in jail. Seems the only salvation for Jatuporn is a cabinet position. MP position is the lifeboat that allows delays while parliament is in session. J missed that boat, and a cabinet position will be no help at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globeman Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 One thing is for sure. Nobody is going to accuse Jutaporn of having any sound reasoning or judgement. ,,, Jatuporn is the intellectual soul of the Red Shirt movement. One thing to be sure of about the fugitive PM: he will never empower someone smarter than himself. You call this loudmouth blowhard an "intellectual" ? Have you any examples of his brilliance to share? I've never seen him do anything but feed his own ego while making hypocritical blanket statements... Seriously, if you can show he is an "intellectual", I'm sure the whole class would love to hear about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 . No small wonder Jatuporn is eager to reach an out of court settlement. With his earlier prison sentence suspended because of being a first conviction and facing this case in which he blatantly lied and libeled and facing another conviction, he's eager to avoid the high probability of prison. Still, being Jatuporn, he's hesitant to admitting to it completely. . Still, being Jatuporn, he's hesitant to admitting to it completely. One thing is for sure. Nobody is going to accuse Jutaporn of having any sound reasoning or judgement. Seems to me Thai politicians spend a lot of their time in lawsuits against each other. It would be good for the country if they were so attentive to official duties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 One thing is for sure. Nobody is going to accuse Jutaporn of having any sound reasoning or judgement. ,,, Jatuporn is the intellectual soul of the Red Shirt movement. One thing to be sure of about the fugitive PM: he will never empower someone smarter than himself. You call this loudmouth blowhard an "intellectual" ? Have you any examples of his brilliance to share? I've never seen him do anything but feed his own ego while making hypocritical blanket statements... Seriously, if you can show he is an "intellectual", I'm sure the whole class would love to hear about it. I believe he was extracting the urine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Cannot Jatuporn afford a defence lawyer? Acting as ones own defence counsel is, as any lawyer will tell you, the act of a fool. . Can't be the cost. He's a millionaire and, besides, the Red Shirts have a battalion of lawyers on call... for the leaders. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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