Types Of Petrol And Which Gives The Most Km/$

[BuffaloRescue]

Hi

I bought an Almera

Apparently I can use

91

91 Gasohol

95

95 Gasohol

E20

Ive never seen E20 for sale.

What are the differences in these fuels?

Im assuming 95 gives the best km/l but which is the best money wise? Is it a false economy to put in the cheapest (91 gasohol).

E20 is 20% ethanol? Is that more or less ethanol that 95?

Thanks

[culicine]

PTT has E20. Start with that. Calculate cost of consumption, then compare it to E10 (gasohol 91). I think 95 will be a waste of money as it is much more expensive than these two.

[BuffaloRescue]

PTT has E20. Start with that. Calculate cost of consumption, then compare it to E10 (gasohol 91). I think 95 will be a waste of money as it is much more expensive than these two.

Thanks. What is 95 gasohol then? How much ethonol percent in 95 gasohol? And you are saying 91 is 10% Ethanol?

[VocalNeal]

95 is the octane rating. So as your car says 91 is Ok then 95 is a waste of money.

The difference between pure and E10 is about 12-13% but here the price is 21% more if my math is correct.(it could be 27%)so make E10 better value than straight 95.

E20 is 8% cheaper but there is not much info on whether you get less than an 8% decrease.

The only way to find out is buy testing as it will be vehicle and driving style specific.

[BSJ]

My pick-up is diesel so I can't offer an opinion on 4 wheelers, but my bikes and scooters are run on Yellow 95 and I get good starting, good performance and fuel consumption worse than benzene 91. If I run the Fino on Green 91 it's a pig, the PCX OK but consumption worse.

[BuffaloRescue]

Seems strange that there is no standard petrol for all cars as there is in european countries, ive never seen different kinds of fuel.. only four star and unleaded

[IMHO]

Seems strange that there is no standard petrol for all cars as there is in european countries, ive never seen different kinds of fuel.. only four star and unleaded

Well outside of Spain, there's not too many European countries that would have enough of an agriculture industry to start growing crops for fuel instead of food

[Crossy]

Seems strange that there is no standard petrol for all cars as there is in european countries, ive never seen different kinds of fuel.. only four star and unleaded

That's because you don't get the choice. UK petrol, both unleaded and super-unleaded (4*) can be up to 5% ethanol (10% from 2013).

Some brands contain it, others don't, only Total is KNOWN not to contain ethanol (at 2011).

For owners of classic vehicles it's a lottery as even 5% can damage fuel systems that are not compatible.

Back OT, to our OP, as has been noted previously the only way you're really going to know is to do some controlled testing and calculate your km/$ for the different fuels.

[NoshowJones]

My pick-up is diesel so I can't offer an opinion on 4 wheelers, but my bikes and scooters are run on Yellow 95 and I get good starting, good performance and fuel consumption worse than benzene 91. If I run the Fino on Green 91 it's a pig, the PCX OK but consumption worse.

I run my Fino on green91 and have no problem at all.

[NoshowJones]

I have a 20 year old Toyota Corolla with LPG conversion, I always used red91. I have asked mechanics and get different answers, probably due to language problems. Most say 95 benzine. How do I know which pump in a garage is 95 benzine? There are two 95s, one cost about 41 Baht per litre, and the other cost about 48 Baht per litre. Can anyone tell me the price app for 95 benzine?

[NoshowJones]

95 is the octane rating. So as your car says 91 is Ok then 95 is a waste of money.

The difference between pure and E10 is about 12-13% but here the price is 21% more if my math is correct.(it could be 27%)so make E10 better value than straight 95.

E20 is 8% cheaper but there is not much info on whether you get less than an 8% decrease.

The only way to find out is buy testing as it will be vehicle and driving style specific.

Be very careful in some garages. In my local garage, I saw a sign for 91 red on a pump, price 38 Baht per litre, I got out the car and asked the attendant to fill up, when she pulled out the nozzle, I noticed the handle was green. A narrow escape, stupid garage. TIT.

[Payboy]

I have a 20 year old Toyota Corolla with LPG conversion, I always used red91. I have asked mechanics and get different answers, probably due to language problems. Most say 95 benzine. How do I know which pump in a garage is 95 benzine? There are two 95s, one cost about 41 Baht per litre, and the other cost about 48 Baht per litre. Can anyone tell me the price app for 95 benzine?

The 48 baht one is 95 benzene.

[NoshowJones]

I have a 20 year old Toyota Corolla with LPG conversion, I always used red91. I have asked mechanics and get different answers, probably due to language problems. Most say 95 benzine. How do I know which pump in a garage is 95 benzine? There are two 95s, one cost about 41 Baht per litre, and the other cost about 48 Baht per litre. Can anyone tell me the price app for 95 benzine?

The 48 baht one is 95 benzene.

Thanks Payboy, as I run mostly on LPG, is there any cheaper fuel I could use?

[Payboy]

I have a 20 year old Toyota Corolla with LPG conversion, I always used red91. I have asked mechanics and get different answers, probably due to language problems. Most say 95 benzine. How do I know which pump in a garage is 95 benzine? There are two 95s, one cost about 41 Baht per litre, and the other cost about 48 Baht per litre. Can anyone tell me the price app for 95 benzine?

The 48 baht one is 95 benzene.

Thanks Payboy, as I run mostly on LPG, is there any cheaper fuel I could use?

You could use 91 benzene as anyway 95 benzene is not easy to find. But you will have some loss of efficiency.

[ThaidDown]

It's the 91 benzene that is being (been) phased out. Some places (around our way) have brought back 95 benzene for those vehicles (usually older) whose fuel systems may be damaged by 10% ethanol in 91 and 95 gasohol.

Pumps which used to dispense the 91 benzene (pump handle usually red) will now be dishing out something else, if still in use, often 91 gasohol, in my experience, hence the 38 baht/litre mentioned by Possum above. There is usually a sign (maybe only in Thai) to say this. Otherwise go by the price.

[NoshowJones]

I have a 20 year old Toyota Corolla with LPG conversion, I always used red91. I have asked mechanics and get different answers, probably due to language problems. Most say 95 benzine. How do I know which pump in a garage is 95 benzine? There are two 95s, one cost about 41 Baht per litre, and the other cost about 48 Baht per litre. Can anyone tell me the price app for 95 benzine?

The 48 baht one is 95 benzene.

Thanks Payboy, as I run mostly on LPG, is there any cheaper fuel I could use?

You could use 91 benzene as anyway 95 benzene is not easy to find. But you will have some loss of efficiency.

Thanks again Payboy, I'm not worried about efficiency, as long as the engine does not get damaged.

[BSJ]

My pick-up is diesel so I can't offer an opinion on 4 wheelers, but my bikes and scooters are run on Yellow 95 and I get good starting, good performance and fuel consumption worse than benzene 91. If I run the Fino on Green 91 it's a pig, the PCX OK but consumption worse.

I run my Fino on green91 and have no problem at all.

Did you fit a hotter range spark plug?

[NoshowJones]

I don't know anything about the spark plugs, I just bought the bike and take it to the Yamaha agent and get it serviced, should I ask them to fit a hotter range plug?

[NoshowJones]

I don't know anything about the spark plugs, I just bought the bike and take it to the Yamaha agent and get it serviced, should I ask them to fit a hotter range plug?

[Blueyeshh]

Honda dream new model- can I fill E20 in it?

[BuffaloRescue]

Update: Ive done various tests, mainly on long range driving, highways etc. On these trips Ive found that E20 gives the best bang for your buck if you have an Almera. Around town.. im not really sure. I cant see any obvious reason it should be any different.

Whether or not it damages fuel lines, and if so and you keep your car a long time the cost of repairing that damage is more/less than the fuel savings of E20 i dont know. I wont be keeping it when the warrantee runs out anyway

[culicine]

Update: Ive done various tests, mainly on long range driving, highways etc. On these trips Ive found that E20 gives the best bang for your buck if you have an Almera. Around town.. im not really sure. I cant see any obvious reason it should be any different.

Whether or not it damages fuel lines, and if so and you keep your car a long time the cost of repairing that damage is more/less than the fuel savings of E20 i dont know. I wont be keeping it when the warrantee runs out anyway

I've just started on E10 and will compare to some readings for E20. At the moment it's not looking much different(for a suzuki swift). So I tend to agree at this point in time - and I drive mostly around Nonthaburi, so it's mixed driving, sometimes in traffic and sometimes on the faster roads. I think you would need to get 3km/l or more better, for E10 to be more economical, but I haven't crunched those numbers yet. I wouldn't worry too much about E20's effect on the fuel lines, if the care designed to run on E20.