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Yes and if they had experienced domestic violence they
would be once bitten twice shy my friend dose not like Thai men and would never
be in a relationship with one again. Many have tried her over the years and the
wall goes up.

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Oh she did live in ireland for 8 years she has a current passport but i think it has been renewed since being back in Thailand dose this make any difference? Not sure what you are saying by apply online?

Op, if she has an irish passport she can travel to Australia on an eta, it costs AUD$20. You can apply for her online here https://www.eta.immi.gov.au/ETA/etas.jsp

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Op, I made a mistake above. You have to be outside of Australia to apply for an e-visa, so you will not be able to do it on her behalf. If she has a CC it should be a simple process.

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The number your after is a 13 something number. Its the diac not some visa place. Or get on their website and start reading and printing off forms. Which you will have to do eventually if you want to try and get her visa

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OP: As you know the key requirement for DIAC is to try & prove she has sufficient reason/s to return to Thailand. Having a child is often not a compelling reason. Many Thais will have their parents/family take care of the child whilst living in a city or living overseas for extended periods of time & DIAC knows this. Can she get a letter from the business to say she has worked their for X years and she will be granted holiday leave?

As you know many females using internet dating sites will have a number of "friends" sending them money every month. Her friends visiting from Ireland may not be aware of this activity. Even if they knew, why would they tell a stranger - you. How about stop sending her monthly payments for say three months and see what happens before you progress any further.

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If your friend is in possession of a valid Irish passport she can apply for an eVisitor (subclass 651) electronic "visa" which is linked to her passport number. The Australian Immigration Service make no charge for this "visa" ! The "visa" provides for multiple entries, each entry permitting a stay of up to 3 months and is valid for one year.

The visa must be applied for outside Australia --- full details can be found here

http://www.immi.gov.au/visas/visitor/651/applicants.htm

If this is not an option (ie. your friend does not have an Irish passport) I believe that given the circumstances you describe securing any other form of visa will be extremely difficult

Best wishes

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Have checked no Irish passport she did not bother to get
one she said, lost opportunity I say. Thanks for all the ideas guys might just
spin the wheel and see if a lucky number comes up w00t.gif She
has not been on a dating site for 2 years after we starting conversing and yes
have checked so i don't think she is collectivly getting money but one can never
be 100% sure.



any advise on protecting my info I have to send in the
invitation letter like bank accounts, copy of my passport, have you heard of
anyone losing there Identity through this process can you send registered mail
or something.



Saw a doc on Thailand recently where you can buy anything
you want a false passport, licences, false ID cards etc they must be getting
this info somewhere.

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Have checked no Irish passport she did not bother to get

one she said, lost opportunity I say. Thanks for all the ideas guys might just

spin the wheel and see if a lucky number comes up w00t.gif She

has not been on a dating site for 2 years after we starting conversing and yes

have checked so i don't think she is collectivly getting money but one can never

be 100% sure.

any advise on protecting my info I have to send in the

invitation letter like bank accounts, copy of my passport, have you heard of

anyone losing there Identity through this process can you send registered mail

or something.

Saw a doc on Thailand recently where you can buy anything

you want a false passport, licences, false ID cards etc they must be getting

this info somewhere.

You do not have to send this. Your letter should state you are resident at .... an australian citizen (if you are) or resident and that you are willung to provide support for a visit from her.

If she is asking for the rest forget it.

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Have checked no Irish passport she did not bother to get

one she said, lost opportunity I say. Thanks for all the ideas guys might just

spin the wheel and see if a lucky number comes up w00t.gif She

has not been on a dating site for 2 years after we starting conversing and yes

have checked so i don't think she is collectivly getting money but one can never

be 100% sure.

any advise on protecting my info I have to send in the

invitation letter like bank accounts, copy of my passport, have you heard of

anyone losing there Identity through this process can you send registered mail

or something.

Saw a doc on Thailand recently where you can buy anything

you want a false passport, licences, false ID cards etc they must be getting

this info somewhere.

You do not have to send this. Your letter should state you are resident at .... an australian citizen (if you are) or resident and that you are willung to provide support for a visit from her.

If she is asking for the rest forget it.

Oh so I don't have to show a copy of my bank statements

prove my business exists or I own my home etc so I just state this and that is

good enough. I had a look at the what others had done seems they sent

copies??

Why do you say if she want these then forget

it

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Have checked no Irish passport she did not bother to get

one she said, lost opportunity I say. Thanks for all the ideas guys might just

spin the wheel and see if a lucky number comes up w00t.gif She

has not been on a dating site for 2 years after we starting conversing and yes

have checked so i don't think she is collectivly getting money but one can never

be 100% sure.

any advise on protecting my info I have to send in the

invitation letter like bank accounts, copy of my passport, have you heard of

anyone losing there Identity through this process can you send registered mail

or something.

Saw a doc on Thailand recently where you can buy anything

you want a false passport, licences, false ID cards etc they must be getting

this info somewhere.

You do not have to send this. Your letter should state you are resident at .... an australian citizen (if you are) or resident and that you are willung to provide support for a visit from her.

If she is asking for the rest forget it.

Oh so I don't have to show a copy of my bank statements

prove my business exists or I own my home etc so I just state this and that is

good enough. I had a look at the what others had done seems they sent

copies??

Why do you say if she want these then forget

it

If you were applying for a permanent visa it may help slightly. For this purpose no it is not needed. If the decision is borderline possibly they may ask you for confirmation of the details she gives but this is unlikely. Your letter may help her as it gives a reason for her to visit but the fact you have not visited her will probably negate that,

In fact there is no provision for a guarantee for tourist visas and they would be unable to collect from you. It is merely an indication of good faith.

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Have Thais girls used these documents in the past or sold them/ If the relationship dissolved / Just wondering

Hahahaha...

Oh somebody pass me the popcorn, this is going to be a classic...

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Anybody got any nasty examples hit-the-fan.gif

You have come to us asking about how your gf can get a Visa to Australia.

We mentioned and suggested some things but also warned you, from our experience that there might be some undiscovered issues with your lady as her actions 'raised some flags'.

Mate ... with your question above ... now you raise the Troll flag.

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@ newby5, assuming you're genuine please keep your questions on topic and specific to your circumstances.

All you other guys, I'm assuming this guy is genuine, though I have my doubts, please keeps your responses on topic.

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Whoa there David what is this Troll thing I am genuine I
have listened with intent and read your posts on visa application very good and
informing but the info about documents has opened my eyes. Yes I might be naive
to you guys experience but I am a newbie hence the name also I am very caucus
person when someone said if she asked for docs don't send them that was my red
flag as you call it and then to be told on a 48r I don't need to send them only
on a permanent application I am starting to think maybe I am being played
because she did ask for them but maybe due to she has been through this before
with her Irish x.

She mentions money a lot like how much spending money she will get I said i can support you for accom food outing showing the sites seems everything about Thailand revolves around money.


I know for sure these docs could be used in the wrong way
just thought some guys might have experieced it and was there a way of
protecting yourself.


She is now not keen on coming because I said I was asking
experienced people how to do this so at the moment I feel like walking away.


I told her she could do a certified copy of her passport
so she did not have to send her real one she seems cranky about the whole
thing.

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She a applied for a Australian visa about 12 years ago
and was rejected I said seems she did not know the guy in question long enough
maybe, they split.



Later she married a Irish guy and lived in Ireland for 8
years they split and she has been back in Thailand now for 3 to 4 years.

From what you have written above, she doesn't know you either. You have never met in person so you don't know anything about her, other than what she has told you. How much of that can you believe?

I realize that she is only applying for a Tourist Visa, not a Spouse Visa, but the main thing that the Oz Embassy is fearful of, is her doing a runner whilst in Oz. It seems almost impossible that both of you could prove a genuine relationship. I doubt that you could prove a genuine friendship from what you have stated.

I also think that you would need a lot more compelling reasons for her to return to LOS, other than she is a mom who happens to own a house.

Why is she so eager to visit Australia, and why haven't you visited her in Thailand?

If I'm asking these questions, the Oz Embassy should also be asking too.

It might be in your best interest to get to know her properly before submitting visa applications. That means meeting her in person and spending some time together.

You then might be in a better position to know whether to continue sending money to her and/or to continue meeting her on-line.

You asked 'what chance you have re getting her to Oz,' I'm thinking nil chance.

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I can think of better ways to have spent $3,600...

Time to to turn off the som tum train.. I'd have said gravy train, but you're hardly forking out $3,600 per month...

I still believe you to be a troll but i'll indulge this for a while because I have some free time...

You've been played, and for a cautious person (you said you were a caucus person, which unless you're an MP of one of the political parties I can only assume you meant cautious) I'd say you are pretty much at the other end of the 'cautious spectrum' when you decided to start sending money to a 'woman' you've physically never met...

Cut your losses, get off the dating sites, book a holiday to Thailand, go nuts, fall in love with the first bar girl you meet, get her name tattooed on your chest and live a little...

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Yes I agree with you, I think i will abandon the whole idea and if something comes from that well and good and if it doesn't well move on. The money is fly sh_t so not worried but i think I would be just throwing it away if I tried for a 48r but have learnt a lot here thanks to all contributers.

A thai relationship seems like a revolving door with a toll

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There's no harm in trying but her visa is unlikely to be granted for the following reasons:

1) You have never met her in person. Australian immigration pays no regard to internet only relationships. In their eyes, you don't know each other

2) Verification of her place of employment will be problematic, in that an employer's letter carries much more weight than a claim to work in a family business - her family will tell immigration anything she asks them to

Flying is actually one of the safest ways to travel - save up and go deluxe economy or business class and it will put no strain on your heart. If you can overcome your fear of it you'll never look back and have a great time in Thailand. Go and see her in her own setting - it will be a lot more fun and will be easier to extract from if you don't like what you see when you meet in person. People can put on all sorts of fronts online.

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Yes I agree with you, I think i will abandon the whole idea and if something comes from that well and good and if it doesn't well move on. The money is fly sh_t so not worried but i think I would be just throwing it away if I tried for a 48r but have learnt a lot here thanks to all contributers.

A thai relationship seems like a revolving door with a toll

Troll or not this last statement is damn right offensive, many people on this sight have been in a relationship with a Thai national with no financial arrangements for years & are perfectly happy.

Myself included

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Yes I agree with you, I think i will abandon the whole idea and if something comes from that well and good and if it doesn't well move on. The money is fly sh_t so not worried but i think I would be just throwing it away if I tried for a 48r but have learnt a lot here thanks to all contributers.

A thai relationship seems like a revolving door with a toll

Troll or not this last statement is damn right offensive, many people on this sight have been in a relationship with a Thai national with no financial arrangements for years & are perfectly happy.

Myself included

Well all i have done is put my toe in the water and its costs money I think if you look at the whole thing you would be a minority.

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A thai relationship seems like a revolving door with a toll

Since, it appears that you have never had a 'Thai relationship' have no idea why you can state that.

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OH come now look at the posts just on this thread saying I have been scammed because yes it is common. I have see all the TV docs guys getting charged just for a conversation in the bars. I have sent things to Thailand every process wants a piece of the farang we are big business so just call a spade a spade hey.

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OH come now look at the posts just on this thread saying I have been scammed because yes it is common. I have see all the TV docs guys getting charged just for a conversation in the bars. I have sent things to Thailand every process wants a piece of the farang we are big business so just call a spade a spade hey.

your not alone mate. Simple 1 hit the nail on the head,,,, ( STOP SENDING MONEY )

Money ( being the key factor )

Passport (she will be afraid you will see where she has been )

I saw a BGirls passport once all the pages were full, little trips to Dubai and other places

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OH come now look at the posts just on this thread saying I have been scammed because yes it is common. I have see all the TV docs guys getting charged just for a conversation in the bars. I have sent things to Thailand every process wants a piece of the farang we are big business so just call a spade a spade hey.

your not alone mate. Simple 1 hit the nail on the head,,,, ( STOP SENDING MONEY )

Money ( being the key factor )

Passport (she will be afraid you will see where she has been )

I saw a BGirls passport once all the pages were full, little trips to Dubai and other places

Yes sad but true, you may get what you want but by hell you will pay for it.

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