Dozens Of Doctors Resigning Over Controversial P4P System, Including 11 Specialists

[NeverSure]

Does anyone know how much the doctors get paid and how much they'll lose?

Just curious.

There's a before and after chart in this thread. If true, it's shockingly low in my book.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/628794-rural-thai-hospitals-fear-exodus-over-p4p-plan;-doctors-already-quitting/

[Konini]

Does anyone know how much the doctors get paid and how much they'll lose?

Just curious.

There's a before and after chart in this thread. If true, it's shockingly low in my book.

I think low isn't a strong enough word - it's ludicrous. All of those years of training, and to work for next to nothing. TIT.

[KuhnPaen]

Nationwide, 146 + 11 doctors doesn't sound like much.

Anyway, with the new tax proposal for foreigners here, that should be enough to keep these guys in their BMWs.

What new tax proposal are you referring too?

Thanks.

The story a week or so ago regarding a new tax, or requiring all farangs to show proof of medical insurance before getting a visa.

[wolf5370]

i wonder, if all those doctors can suddenly work in private hospitals (much better salaries) , then WHY THEY NEVER DID THAT before ?

would it be fair to say: doctors study for free in exchange of a 10 year contract working into a government hospital to pay off their free education ?

Probably because the did not have the feeling that they are being [expletive] by the Government until now? High speed treatment of patients as the base for calculating a doctor's pay is as stupid as it can get.

I wonder when the lower classes wake up and realize that "their Government" is making their lives miserable. But I guess this will never happen. 500 THB for voting "correctly" is a great eraser of bad experiences.

"lower classes". That sounds a bit elitist. I assume you are not in that class, lower I mean.

Ouch, I violated the Rules of Political Correctness. So what. But to make you feel better I will from now on call them "people with financial disabilities".

Can we make the "fiscally challenged"

[expat888]

Probably because the did not have the feeling that they are being [expletive] by the Government until now? High speed treatment of patients as the base for calculating a doctor's pay is as stupid as it can get.

I wonder when the lower classes wake up and realize that "their Government" is making their lives miserable. But I guess this will never happen. 500 THB for voting "correctly" is a great eraser of bad experiences.

"lower classes". That sounds a bit elitist. I assume you are not in that class, lower I mean.

Ouch, I violated the Rules of Political Correctness. So what. But to make you feel better I will from now on call them "people with financial disabilities".

My point is you have an emotional attachment to this topic: Your son. You are biased. Your son took a job at a government hospital to start his career and you are upset over his treatment. In fact, this is normal for a starter in a particular field to get stepped on. Most people have it tough in the beginning and they work their butt off with no appreciation. That's the real world.

You addressing these people as "lower class" identified you as something higher. With your son being a doctor it would be safe to assume you feel superior to most people. So your "lower class" comment just served to identify you.

Again you are making baseless assumptions. I am not going to follow you there.

The topic is that this Government wants to cut doctors' salaries and pay them instead according to the number of patients treated per hour, or better the number of patients they wave past their desks, as this is what will happen.

And it is not about doctors fighting for their privilege to collect BMW cars by the dozen, hardly any of these doctors could even afford one with their salaries, it is about the beginning exodus of doctors from state hospitals and the inevitable decrease in quality of treatment for those who cannot afford private hospitals and who in their majority support this sorry excuse for a government.

Unlike the legendary King Midas who turned everything he touched into gold, this Government turns everything it touches into, politely put, natural fertilizer.

"Again you are making baseless assumptions. I am not going to follow you there."

That would be wise of you. Just because you pronounce a comment as baseless doesn't make it so.

If you stepped out of your apparent hi-so cocoon, then maybe you can be a bit more objective on this subject. I sincerely feel sympathy for the "lower class". They are not lower class, they don't have the advantages that you and your son have. Many are lucky to finish M6. It's really easy to look down your nose at people that have to do more than you.

And back on topic: Maybe if your son lost his job at the government hospital he might begin to appreciate the things that you haven't taught him.

Edited April 3, 2013 by expat888