BangrakBob Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 There is another argument that we are waiting for this CL qualifying result before pushing the button on major transfers. Arsenal quite often did a lot business after securing CL. A defining moment is tonight's match, ramification for years to come...either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bredbury Blue Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Carragher vs Jamie Rednapp Liverpool don't concede the most goals from corners, but there is still a big problem that Virgil van Dijk won't fix http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/liverpool-transfer-news-virgil-van-dijk-corners-set-pieces-goals-conceded-jurgen-klopp-problem-issue-a7892346.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wilai Posted August 15, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 15, 2017 At least JK still has his sense of humour 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangrakBob Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 2 hours ago, Bredbury Blue said: Carragher vs Jamie Rednapp Liverpool don't concede the most goals from corners, but there is still a big problem that Virgil van Dijk won't fixhttp://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/liverpool-transfer-news-virgil-van-dijk-corners-set-pieces-goals-conceded-jurgen-klopp-problem-issue-a7892346.html I wanted to comment on your post about it earlier. I think they both are right, there is an issue with personnel, we need a leader, but there is also something wrong with the system we are playing/defending. You could argue that the personnel are not good enough to play the system the manager wants them to. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangrakBob Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Klopp also said this; Klopp: "It’s not important what I think. I have the player (#Coutinho) from August 31 latest, again, or when the back issue is sorted." #LFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wilai Posted August 15, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 15, 2017 Not at our best and rode our luck at times but decent result against a good side. Tie definitely not over yet. Mignolet and Mane the picks....usual suspects the let downs! Referee was poor and appeared to have never heard of 'Advantage'! Henderson still doesn't look fit. German centre half (Vogt) looked very solid, and quick as well. Maybe worth a bid if we don't get VVD. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangrakBob Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Watching that was difficult, from anxiety to elation in equal doses every 5 minutes. However, we beat a team that hasn't lost in over a year at that stadium and did it with virtually 1 midfielder in Emre Can. Dare I say it, we looked much better with Milner than Henderson (understand he needs time). Really missing Coutinho and Lallana for creativity and penetration. TAA's goal was fantastic, the kid is going to be a star, and again thought Solanke looked effective in his cameo. Time to give some of these boys a rest against Palace. Get Solanke, Grujic and Robertson in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nellyp Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Yeah, a difficult game. I thought Hoffenheim look really good. They have lost a couple of key players but looked well drilled and skillful. I agree about Vogt he looks class and would fit well with us...too late to buy and I don't think they would sell. Our defense looked shambolic at times, and I thought Lovren was out of his depth (worst I have seen him) and made every body else worse. TTA looks great and I would keep him a permanent fixture. Our Midfield are too weak and we looked better with Milner. There was very little link up between Midfield and attack if trying to work the ball, and we gave Hoffenheim a lot of time to spray the ball about. Apparently, that was a tactic to allow Mane and Salah more freedom but seems a very dodgy ploy. As was the high defending for free kicks. That worked out, but on another day.... Great result, but the performances need to improve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I'm a little surprised that no one on here has pointed a questioning finger at the clubs defensive coach. Its not like this has only been a recent achilles heel to the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 36 minutes ago, carmine said: I'm a little surprised that no one on here has pointed a questioning finger at the clubs defensive coach. Its not like this has only been a recent achilles heel to the side. No amount of coaching is going to help that defence mate....it needs dissolving and replacing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieH Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 37 minutes ago, carmine said: I'm a little surprised that no one on here has pointed a questioning finger at the clubs defensive coach. Its not like this has only been a recent achilles heel to the side. it bothers me hugely. i don't even know if we have a defensive coach. but we're so weak on dead balls that opponents know they're going to get chances from free-kicks and corners and i am buggered if i know what klopp saw in moreno over the summer that convinced him he's now somehow a better left-back than milner. opponents will just target moreno safe in the knowledge that he will, definitely, <deleted> up big time at least once a match. but yes, we just don't seem to be bothered about practising defending corners in training. it's mental. i really don't get it. and bob, yeah you're right, TAA is going to be something else isn't he. stones on him to tell senior pros to get out of the way, i'm having this free-kick. going to go the gerrard route i reckon, start off at right-back, become an all action centre mid in a year or two. got the lot this lad has. and is a scouser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Just now, carmine said: I'm a little surprised that no one on here has pointed a questioning finger at the clubs defensive coach. Its not like this has only been a recent achilles heel to the side. Your behind the times its been discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, RonniePickering22 said: No amount of coaching is going to help that defence mate....it needs dissolving and replacing. Think i'll wait to hear what the Liverpool lads have to say about that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, StevieH said: it bothers me hugely. i don't even know if we have a defensive coach. but we're so weak on dead balls that opponents know they're going to get chances from free-kicks and corners and i am buggered if i know what klopp saw in moreno over the summer that convinced him he's now somehow a better left-back than milner. opponents will just target moreno safe in the knowledge that he will, definitely, <deleted> up big time at least once a match. but yes, we just don't seem to be bothered about practising defending corners in training. it's mental. i really don't get it. and bob, yeah you're right, TAA is going to be something else isn't he. stones on him to tell senior pros to get out of the way, i'm having this free-kick. going to go the gerrard route i reckon, start off at right-back, become an all action centre mid in a year or two. got the lot this lad has. and is a scouser. Yes i must say at the set piece the defense is horrid. Mignolet is playing great considering what he's got infant of him!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, Rc2702 said: Your behind the times its been discussed. It relates in particular to the last couple of games which hasn't been discussed in any great detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieH Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Just now, carmine said: Yes i must say at the set piece the defense is horrid. Mignolet is playing great considering what he's got infant of him!! he's getting plenty of practice because of what he's got infant of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Just now, carmine said: It relates in particular to the last couple of games which hasn't been discussed in any great detail. It relates to Klopp's tenure full stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 1 minute ago, StevieH said: he's getting plenty of practice because of what he's got infant of him. Farking spell check! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StevieH Posted August 16, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, carmine said: Farking spell check! spellcheck defaults to whatever words you've typed a lot recently. sort of websites have you been going on carmine? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangrakBob Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 1 hour ago, StevieH said: it bothers me hugely. i don't even know if we have a defensive coach. but we're so weak on dead balls that opponents know they're going to get chances from free-kicks and corners and i am buggered if i know what klopp saw in moreno over the summer that convinced him he's now somehow a better left-back than milner. opponents will just target moreno safe in the knowledge that he will, definitely, <deleted> up big time at least once a match. but yes, we just don't seem to be bothered about practising defending corners in training. it's mental. i really don't get it. and bob, yeah you're right, TAA is going to be something else isn't he. stones on him to tell senior pros to get out of the way, i'm having this free-kick. going to go the gerrard route i reckon, start off at right-back, become an all action centre mid in a year or two. got the lot this lad has. and is a scouser. As soon as Clyne his back I'd get TAA straight in to midfield. That lad was the only player not flapping out there in the first half and to take that goal. His <deleted> corners are there best i've seen of anyone in 2 years. Get up there now! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangrakBob Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 1 hour ago, StevieH said: he's getting plenty of practice because of what he's got infant of him. As Nelly mentioned that high line on those free kicks, just inviting the ball to be fizzed in to the spot with a clear run up to nod it in and if he misses a far post toe poke will do the trick. Migs did well last night but i'm not convinced, said that before an' all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nellyp Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I was thinking about that high line. Do you think it could be to stop the chaos that we see so much of in our box, and the hope is that they can sort it out better with space?????? Or maybe because they were worried about Hoffenheim's height???? Very strange approach whatever it is. They didn't score though, so i assume it worked perfectly lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nellyp Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 4 hours ago, carmine said: I'm a little surprised that no one on here has pointed a questioning finger at the clubs defensive coach. Its not like this has only been a recent achilles heel to the side. In reply to you question about the defensive coach https://www.socceronsunday.com/article/klopp-appoints-ruddock-as-defensive-coach/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nellyp Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Seriously though. I don't think we have a defensive coach. I find that weird as we could obviously do with that addressed. I imagine Klopp coaches all areas as he needs the full team working to his systems. Surely just a coach for set pieces wouldn't effect that though Here is the backroom staff https://www.anfield-online.co.uk/squad/backroomstaff.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nellyp Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Interesting that our chief scout's name is Barry Hunter. OK not that interesting really, and he certainly doesn't seem to have been very busy of late lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieH Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, nellyp said: In reply to you question about the defensive coach https://www.socceronsunday.com/article/klopp-appoints-ruddock-as-defensive-coach/ that website has gone to a lot of effort but forgot to bring the funny. our new defensive coach is sat in a studio getting paid a bundle by sky for chatting with gary neville every week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StevieH Posted August 16, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, nellyp said: Interesting that our chief scout's name is Barry Hunter. OK not that interesting really, and he certainly doesn't seem to have been very busy of late lol got a piss easy job he has. all he does each summer is buy a season ticket for southampton. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Just now, nellyp said: In reply to you question about the defensive coach https://www.socceronsunday.com/article/klopp-appoints-ruddock-as-defensive-coach/ I saw that a while back but surely that's total tosh the guys an absolute tool. I think it's fake news or some kind of joke site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nellyp Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 15 hours ago, Rc2702 said: I saw that a while back but surely that's total tosh the guys an absolute tool. I think it's fake news or some kind of joke site Yeah, it's a joke site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nellyp Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 This is an interesting analysis of our defense. Not how sensible it was to employ, but quite a read. https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=336276.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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