wilai Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, alfieconn said: Farking trying to change the laws now read the rule DELIBERATELY PLAYS THE BALL, where does the rule mention mis-kick or back pass ! Perfectly aware of the law (I even quoted it!) My comment was merely a viewpoint not an attempt to change anything. To spell it out so that even you understand....My opinion is that back passes and mis-kicks should not be treated as the same thing. The wording of the rule doesn't differentiate between them therefore Kane was not offside.....Now back under your bridge. 2 hours ago, BangrakBob said: As soon as the ball is played through before Lovren even touches it Kane is offside that’s it. The game should stop there he is already off side what happens after the fact is irrelevant. Lovely day for a trolling Alfie. Problem is Bob at the time the ball was first played, Kane was not 'active' so not considered as offside by 'Eagle Eyes' on the line. After Lovren mis-kicks, the ball runs through to Kane and he then becomes 'active' and not offside. Had Lovren missed the ball completely Kane would have been off once he attempted to play the ball from the original pass. The decision was correct unfortunately. .....................although some would say that chin of his was offside for the full ninety! Edited February 5, 2018 by wilai 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellydog Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, wilai said: Perfectly aware of the law (I even quoted it!) My comment was merely a viewpoint not an attempt to change anything. To spell it out so that even you understand....My opinion is that back passes and mis-kicks should not be treated as the same thing. The wording of the rule doesn't differentiate between them therefore Kane was not offside.....Now back under your bridge. Problem is Bob at the time the ball was first played, Kane was not 'active' so not considered as offside by 'Eagle Eyes' on the line. After Lovren mis-kicks, the ball runs through to Kane and he then becomes 'active' and not offside. Had Lovren missed the ball completely Kane would have been off once he attempted to play the ball from the original pass. The decision was correct unfortunately. .....................although some would say that chin of his was offside for the full ninety! Thanks for that Wills ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfieconn Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 hour ago, jellydog said: Thanks for that Wills ! You needed Wills to explain that jd, crikey it's not rocket science Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfieconn Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Matt Le TissierVerified account @mattletiss7 11h11 hours ago More Gotta admire some lfc fans, point blank refusing to admit vvd kicked lamela by tweeting video of the worst angle of the incident to try and back up their opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StevieH Posted February 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2018 3 hours ago, carmine said: And don't see the need for discussion. Both were penalties. The timing was harsh but still penalties. And i'm sure Bob would agree that Liverpool did not deserve the three points either. don't think either was. kane was offside for the first, balls to the ridiculous rule, he was clearly offside when the ball was played towards him. then you have this preposterous situation of the linesman giving the decision then talking to the referee and saying "if lovren touched it". then the referee, that clown moss, refers to martin atkinson to ask if he saw anything on tv, doesn't wait for the answer, and states "i'm giving a penalty". what the <deleted> happened to being 100% sure about a call otherwise you don't give it? and as for the second penalty, absolute nonsense call. van dijk is pulling his leg away, lamela throws himself into him and goes down like he's been shot. moss and his linesman were an utter disgrace. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellydog Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, alfieconn said: You needed Wills to explain that jd, crikey it's not rocket science I'm like Mr. Red about the offside rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfieconn Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, jellydog said: I'm like Mr. Red about the offside rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Lamela tried it on and they brought it. He had no intention for the ball he threw himself in there for exactly what they got. Two cheats in the midfield. Dirty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotsira Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 hour ago, wilai said: Problem is Bob at the time the ball was first played, Kane was not 'active' so not considered as offside by 'Eagle Eyes' on the line. After Lovren mis-kicks, the ball runs through to Kane and he then becomes 'active' and not offside. Had Lovren missed the ball completely Kane would have been off once he attempted to play the ball from the original pass. The decision was correct unfortunately. .....................although some would say that chin of his was offside for the full ninety! Your 100% spot on. It's also absolutely farcical that the so called experts who get paid thousands if not millions to work as pundits on tv don't even understand the rules of the game, why, because they're living in the past people like Andy gray, Graeme Souness Alan Shearer Tim Sherwood etc... They still interpret the rules from back in the days when they played which are totally different to modern day football. They also keep referring to it as a grey area of the rules for some strange reason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champers Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 hour ago, StevieH said: don't think either was. kane was offside for the first, balls to the ridiculous rule, he was clearly offside when the ball was played towards him. then you have this preposterous situation of the linesman giving the decision then talking to the referee and saying "if lovren touched it". then the referee, that clown moss, refers to martin atkinson to ask if he saw anything on tv, doesn't wait for the answer, and states "i'm giving a penalty". what the <deleted> happened to being 100% sure about a call otherwise you don't give it? and as for the second penalty, absolute nonsense call. van dijk is pulling his leg away, lamela throws himself into him and goes down like he's been shot. moss and his linesman were an utter disgrace. Unfortunately, you have to put it down to an error from VVD. He touched a player in the penalty area and that is enough in today's game. Lamela was a disgrace and should be ashamed, but is probably proud to have won his team a pen. Contrast with Saha's second where no defender dared to even touch him; never mind try to tackle him; for fear of giving a pen away. He scored anyway, so conceding a pen might have been a better option. Refs need to start using their judgement. Was contact sufficient to cause a forward to drop like he has been shot? If not, no pen and a booking for simulation. It seems that if there is any contact now; however slight and the player goes down then a pen is given. It's a cheats charter and too many are at it. It is spoiling the sport. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfieconn Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 hour ago, sotsira said: Your 100% spot on. It's also absolutely farcical that the so called experts who get paid thousands if not millions to work as pundits on tv don't even understand the rules of the game, why, because they're living in the past people like Andy gray, Graeme Souness Alan Shearer Tim Sherwood etc... They still interpret the rules from back in the days when they played which are totally different to modern day football. They also keep referring to it as a grey area of the rules for some strange reason. As do some of the posters on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfieconn Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 2 hours ago, StevieH said: don't think either was. kane was offside for the first, balls to the ridiculous rule, he was clearly offside when the ball was played towards him. then you have this preposterous situation of the linesman giving the decision then talking to the referee and saying "if lovren touched it". then the referee, that clown moss, refers to martin atkinson to ask if he saw anything on tv, doesn't wait for the answer, and states "i'm giving a penalty". what the <deleted> happened to being 100% sure about a call otherwise you don't give it? and as for the second penalty, absolute nonsense call. van dijk is pulling his leg away, lamela throws himself into him and goes down like he's been shot. moss and his linesman were an utter disgrace. Gotta admire some lfc fans, point blank refusing to admit vvd kicked lamela by tweeting video of the worst angle of the incident to try and back up their opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Just now, alfieconn said: Gotta admire some lfc fans, point blank refusing to admit vvd kicked lamela by tweeting video of the worst angle of the incident to try and back up their opinion. It looks completely different on that grainy image. So different from above it is difficult to believe they are the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bredbury Blue Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 No way was that a penalty. Spurs player throws himself anticipating a collision. Think we'd all be pissed off ifour respective team conceded that penalty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangrakBob Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 4 hours ago, wilai said: Perfectly aware of the law (I even quoted it!) My comment was merely a viewpoint not an attempt to change anything. To spell it out so that even you understand....My opinion is that back passes and mis-kicks should not be treated as the same thing. The wording of the rule doesn't differentiate between them therefore Kane was not offside.....Now back under your bridge. Problem is Bob at the time the ball was first played, Kane was not 'active' so not considered as offside by 'Eagle Eyes' on the line. After Lovren mis-kicks, the ball runs through to Kane and he then becomes 'active' and not offside. Had Lovren missed the ball completely Kane would have been off once he attempted to play the ball from the original pass. The decision was correct unfortunately. .....................although some would say that chin of his was offside for the full ninety! However, Lovren would not have lunged for the ball had Kane not been where he was, Kane has therefore influenced play, therefore active. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilai Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 'When I was a player, it was part of training to try to cheat". You'll never guess who said this! Clue:...looks like he includes it in his own training Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangrakBob Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 16 minutes ago, wilai said: 'When I was a player, it was part of training to try to cheat". You'll never guess who said this! Clue:...looks like he includes it in his own training Deli Ali, Harry Kane, Erik Lamela, looks like they all do it in training every week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangrakBob Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 It was very difficult to accept a draw when you are 2-1 up off a masterful goal by The King well in to injury time, in saying that I'd have taken a draw when the Kane pen was given. In the first half we should have been 2-3 up, they were no threat. The second half we just dropped off massively and gave them too much of the ball, and the subs unfortunately compounded that fact. Still in no way I believe Spurs deserved 3 points. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, BangrakBob said: Deli Ali, Harry Kane, Erik Lamela, looks like they all do it in training every week. Frothy pounded sour grapes on this thread today gents. T'was a fair result imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, BangrakBob said: It was very difficult to accept a draw when you are 2-1 up off a masterful goal by The King well in to injury time, in saying that I'd have taken a draw when the Kane pen was given. In the first half we should have been 2-3 up, they were no threat. The second half we just dropped off massively and gave them too much of the ball, and the subs unfortunately compounded that fact. Still in no way I believe Spurs deserved 3 points. I would say the same on your second half performance. Tepid at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangrakBob Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 16 minutes ago, RonniePickering22 said: Frothy pounded sour grapes on this thread today gents. T'was a fair result imho. Spurs are a top side and that was the best team we played at Anfield this season, better than City for me. Your boys do love a good dive though, if Ali is booked I don't see how the other 2 were much different, especially Lamela. My issue is with the officiating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellydog Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 One thing lost in all this is Salah's fabulous second goal. Messie-esque that was. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangrakBob Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, jellydog said: One thing lost in all this is Salah's fabulous second goal. Messie-esque that was. The Egyptian King! it reminded me or Suarez against United but from the other side, Torres did it against someone too, in great company and only 24 years old! 220M in the summer if we don't make CL Edited February 5, 2018 by BangrakBob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nev Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 35 minutes ago, BangrakBob said: The Egyptian King! it reminded me or Suarez against United but from the other side, Torres did it against someone too, in great company and only 24 years old! 220M in the summer if we don't make CL I am pretty sure Salah has a 57 mil buy out Claus, so Real Madrid it is in the summer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilai Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 minute ago, nev said: I am pretty sure Salah has a 57 mil buy out Claus, so Real Madrid it is in the summer. We don't do buy out clauses....hence the Can situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Just now, wilai said: We don't do buy out clauses....hence the Can situation. There have been clauses previously. Suarez was one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilai Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Holgate accuses Firmino of racism.......................LFC fans dig up homophobic tweets Alli dives against LFC.............................................Fans hack his i-Cloud and release sex video with prostitute Jon Moss desperately tries to delete his on-line footprint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilai Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Rc2702 said: There have been clauses previously. Suarez was one. Is why we don't do them anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Just now, wilai said: Is why we don't do them anymore. Firmino has one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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