Tick Season Is Here

[morpheusatloppers]

Okay - here it is: Use revolution to get rid of SOME nasties - but despite what the instructions say, FORGET about it getting rid of ticks. Also, once every TWO months is adequate. (Tip: if you have more than one dog, get the BIGGEST size possible and use a syringe - WITHOUT a needle, obviously - to apportion the doses. They are available for few baht from Boots or similar and will save you a FORTUNE. Revolution is made by Pfizer, so it's the same deal as with Viagra - DIVIDE AND CONQUER!)

For TICKS, I swear by "BEARING Formula 3 Tick & Flea Dog Shampoo" (get the BIG size to save money - variations for "long hair" etc. are available). But you have to use it at least once a WEEK. The effect is cumulative - it won't eliminate the ticks overnight.

Initially, use it every other day - then you can revert to weekly. But KEEP IT UP - or they will return. You should be able to get the shampoo from any Tesco or Macro (don't forget to water it down 50%, as instructed).

My two dogs are kept in our (large) garden, so they don't come into contact with the soi dogs - but if yours roam free, you may need to use the shampoo more often. Massage it WELL into the fur.

Keep checking for ticks. If you find any, put them into a screw-top bottle filled with solvent (petrol will do) - then they'll die HAPPY! Favourite hiding places for the little buggers are around the mouth, in the ears and between the toes. Good luck!

Edited May 4, 2013 by morpheusatloppers

[lemoncake]

Okay - here it is: Use revolution to get rid of SOME nasties - but despite what the instructions say, FORGET about it getting rid of ticks. Also, once every TWO months is adequate. (Tip: if you have more than one dog, get the BIGGEST size possible and use a syringe - WITHOUT a needle, obviously - to apportion the doses. They are available for few baht from Boots or similar and will save you a FORTUNE. Revolution is made by Pfizer, so it's the same deal as with Viagra - DIVIDE AND CONQUER!)

For TICKS, I swear by "BEARING Formula 3 Tick & Flea Dog Shampoo" (get the BIG size to save money - variations for "long hair" etc. are available). But you have to use it at least once a WEEK. The effect is cumulative - it won't eliminate the ticks overnight.

Initially, use it every other day - then you can revert to weekly. But KEEP IT UP - or they will return. You should be able to get the shampoo from any Tesco or Macro (don't forget to water it down 50%, as instructed).

My two dogs are kept in our (large) garden, so they don't come into contact with the soi dogs - but if yours roam free, you may need to use the shampoo more often. Massage it WELL into the fur.

Keep checking for ticks. If you find any, put them into a screw-top bottle filled with solvent (petrol will do) - then they'll die HAPPY! Favourite hiding places for the little buggers are around the mouth, in the ears and between the toes. Good luck!

I agree, that Shampoo is great, BUT it is not healthy for dogs skin to wash them daily , so its not really a win win solution

[T_Dog]

This infestation is a mind blower. We have pulled over 30 ticks off the dog today with five sets of two stuck together in their little love nest. They are quite a bit smaller than the ones we found earlier in the week but they sure are making up for it in numbers. The tick hunt continues.......

Regarding the suggestion to spray the property, that is not feasible as the boy ranges all over. No contact with other dogs but lots of vegetation to run through.

[morpheusatloppers]

Okay - here it is: Use revolution to get rid of SOME nasties - but despite what the instructions say, FORGET about it getting rid of ticks. Also, once every TWO months is adequate. (Tip: if you have more than one dog, get the BIGGEST size possible and use a syringe - WITHOUT a needle, obviously - to apportion the doses. They are available for few baht from Boots or similar and will save you a FORTUNE. Revolution is made by Pfizer, so it's the same deal as with Viagra - DIVIDE AND CONQUER!)

For TICKS, I swear by "BEARING Formula 3 Tick & Flea Dog Shampoo" (get the BIG size to save money - variations for "long hair" etc. are available). But you have to use it at least once a WEEK. The effect is cumulative - it won't eliminate the ticks overnight.

Initially, use it every other day - then you can revert to weekly. But KEEP IT UP - or they will return. You should be able to get the shampoo from any Tesco or Macro (don't forget to water it down 50%, as instructed).

My two dogs are kept in our (large) garden, so they don't come into contact with the soi dogs - but if yours roam free, you may need to use the shampoo more often. Massage it WELL into the fur.

Keep checking for ticks. If you find any, put them into a screw-top bottle filled with solvent (petrol will do) - then they'll die HAPPY! Favourite hiding places for the little buggers are around the mouth, in the ears and between the toes. Good luck!

I agree, that Shampoo is great, BUT it is not healthy for dogs skin to wash them daily , so its not really a win win solution

I DID say "initially...every other day - then revert to weekly" - meaning maybe three times, on alternate days, in the first week - then just once a week. The level of cypermethrin in the shampoo is low - thus, provided you RINSE your pooch thoroughly, it won't hurt him/her. But as stated, that low level doesn't hurt the TICKS so much either - which is why you need to keep the WEEKLY shampoos UP. But persevere and the CUMULATIVE effect WILL rid your guys of these pests.

Anecdotally, Jasper was a soi dog who got beaten up by a NASTY soi dog. I took pity on him - and even though we had a cat (ANOTHER stray) we took him on. Then the people opposite began caring (after a fashion) for a cute little female dog (different breed) and Jasper and her fell in doggy love.

So I offered to BUY her. I got her for 500B - had her "fixed" immediately - and now Jasper and Dang (her original name - we didn't want to confuse her by changing it) romp around our garden as happy as... two happy dogs. Until I became their carer, I didn't even LIKE dogs - but we've all bonded nicely (although we have to make sure Sophie, the cat, doesn't encounter them).

Dang licks my bald head - and joins Jasper to BARK at the soi dog that beat him up, every time it passes - which lead to both him and her being cared for by me. Sorta the doggie equivalent of "neer-ner-ni-nerr-nerrr!"

Self-aware, intelligent dogs and cats are treated ATROCIOUSLY in this part of the World. One would like to do more - but it's true what they say: while you can't change the World - you CAN change it for one (or two) dogs - and/or a cat...

Edited May 4, 2013 by morpheusatloppers

[lemoncake]

Okay - here it is: Use revolution to get rid of SOME nasties - but despite what the instructions say, FORGET about it getting rid of ticks. Also, once every TWO months is adequate. (Tip: if you have more than one dog, get the BIGGEST size possible and use a syringe - WITHOUT a needle, obviously - to apportion the doses. They are available for few baht from Boots or similar and will save you a FORTUNE. Revolution is made by Pfizer, so it's the same deal as with Viagra - DIVIDE AND CONQUER!)

For TICKS, I swear by "BEARING Formula 3 Tick & Flea Dog Shampoo" (get the BIG size to save money - variations for "long hair" etc. are available). But you have to use it at least once a WEEK. The effect is cumulative - it won't eliminate the ticks overnight.

Initially, use it every other day - then you can revert to weekly. But KEEP IT UP - or they will return. You should be able to get the shampoo from any Tesco or Macro (don't forget to water it down 50%, as instructed).

My two dogs are kept in our (large) garden, so they don't come into contact with the soi dogs - but if yours roam free, you may need to use the shampoo more often. Massage it WELL into the fur.

Keep checking for ticks. If you find any, put them into a screw-top bottle filled with solvent (petrol will do) - then they'll die HAPPY! Favourite hiding places for the little buggers are around the mouth, in the ears and between the toes. Good luck!

I agree, that Shampoo is great, BUT it is not healthy for dogs skin to wash them daily , so its not really a win win solution:(

I DID say "initially...every other day - then revert to weekly" - meaning maybe three times, on alternate days, in the first week - then just once a week. The level of cypermethrin in the shampoo is low - thus, provided you RINSE your pooch thoroughly, it won't hurt him/her. But as stated, that low level doesn't hurt the TICKS so much either - which is why you need to keep the WEEKLY shampoos UP. But persevere and the CUMULATIVE effect WILL rid your guys of these pests.

Anecdotally, Jasper was a soi dog who got beaten up by a NASTY soi dog. I took pity on him - and even though we had a cat (ANOTHER stray) we took him on. Then the people opposite began caring (after a fashion) for a cute little female dog (different breed) and Jasper and her fell in doggy love.

So I offered to BUY her. I got her for 500B - had her "fixed" immediately - and now Jasper and Dang (her original name - we didn't want to confuse her by changing it) romp around our garden as happy as... two happy dogs. Until I became their carer, I didn't even LIKE dogs - but we've all bonded nicely (although we have to make sure Sophie, the cat, doesn't encounter them) - Dang licks my bald head.

Self-aware, intelligent dogs and cats are treated ATROCIOUSLY in this part of the World. One would like to do more - but it's true what they say: you can't change the World - but you can change one (or two) dogs' (or a cat's) World...

Even weekly is not healthy for their skin, it washes away natural oils

[Mudcrab]

Ticks, that is the eggs, can remain dormant for years, and given the right conditions can hatch. This is why we see these sudden outbursts of ticks on dogs..right humidity and temperature. Ticks ,the eggs that is, are in the ticks blood, so never, ever burst a tick (as satisfying as that is)...drown them preferably in hot water. An old remedy which seemed to work for dogs with ticks was to add a teaspoonful of powdered sulphur (sulfur for our spelling challenged brothers) to the dogs food once a day.. no real side effects that I am aware off. Happy to be proven otherwise.

[morpheusatloppers]

Okay - here it is: Use revolution to get rid of SOME nasties - but despite what the instructions say, FORGET about it getting rid of ticks. Also, once every TWO months is adequate. (Tip: if you have more than one dog, get the BIGGEST size possible and use a syringe - WITHOUT a needle, obviously - to apportion the doses. They are available for few baht from Boots or similar and will save you a FORTUNE. Revolution is made by Pfizer, so it's the same deal as with Viagra - DIVIDE AND CONQUER!)

For TICKS, I swear by "BEARING Formula 3 Tick & Flea Dog Shampoo" (get the BIG size to save money - variations for "long hair" etc. are available). But you have to use it at least once a WEEK. The effect is cumulative - it won't eliminate the ticks overnight.

Initially, use it every other day - then you can revert to weekly. But KEEP IT UP - or they will return. You should be able to get the shampoo from any Tesco or Macro (don't forget to water it down 50%, as instructed).

My two dogs are kept in our (large) garden, so they don't come into contact with the soi dogs - but if yours roam free, you may need to use the shampoo more often. Massage it WELL into the fur.

Keep checking for ticks. If you find any, put them into a screw-top bottle filled with solvent (petrol will do) - then they'll die HAPPY! Favourite hiding places for the little buggers are around the mouth, in the ears and between the toes. Good luck!

I agree, that Shampoo is great, BUT it is not healthy for dogs skin to wash them daily , so its not really a win win solution:(

I DID say "initially...every other day - then revert to weekly" - meaning maybe three times, on alternate days, in the first week - then just once a week. The level of cypermethrin in the shampoo is low - thus, provided you RINSE your pooch thoroughly, it won't hurt him/her. But as stated, that low level doesn't hurt the TICKS so much either - which is why you need to keep the WEEKLY shampoos UP. But persevere and the CUMULATIVE effect WILL rid your guys of these pests.

Anecdotally, Jasper was a soi dog who got beaten up by a NASTY soi dog. I took pity on him - and even though we had a cat (ANOTHER stray) we took him on. Then the people opposite began caring (after a fashion) for a cute little female dog (different breed) and Jasper and her fell in doggy love.

So I offered to BUY her. I got her for 500B - had her "fixed" immediately - and now Jasper and Dang (her original name - we didn't want to confuse her by changing it) romp around our garden as happy as... two happy dogs. Until I became their carer, I didn't even LIKE dogs - but we've all bonded nicely (although we have to make sure Sophie, the cat, doesn't encounter them) - Dang licks my bald head.

Self-aware, intelligent dogs and cats are treated ATROCIOUSLY in this part of the World. One would like to do more - but it's true what they say: you can't change the World - but you can change one (or two) dogs' (or a cat's) World...

Even weekly is not healthy for their skin, it washes away natural oils

I can only speak from personal experience, over a five year period. Once a week keeps the ticks away. Reduce the frequency to once every TWO weeks and they come BACK. Thus, done weekly (and rinsed THOROUGHLY) my experience is they are not troubled by the ticks - and their skin is fine.

Jasper's skin was ALIVE when we first acquired him. And while Dang had obviously been cared for better - her skin was still a zoo. But now, they are both A1.

I recently visited a shop whose owner had two BEAUTIFUL dogs. But a closer examination showed me they too were heavily infested. This problem appears to be endemic - yet the solution is EASY...

[David48]

Hope you do not have children in the house - if so suggest you get rid of the dog it is not worth the risk ......

Tick paralysis is most likely to be seen in children. The initial symptoms of tick paralysis may include unsteady gait, increased weakness of the limbs, multiple rashes, headache, fever, flu like symptoms, tenderness of lymph nodes, and partial facial paralysis. Tick paralysis develops slowly as the tick engorges, which will take several days. Despite the removal of the tick, the patient's condition typically will continue to deteriorate for a time and recovery is often slow. Undetected ticks are another possible reason for any prologed debilitation and should always remain a concern. Improvements in modern medicine and the development of a tick antitoxin have prevented further deaths from tick paralysis in the last 70 years. The antitoxin is available from the Commonwealth Serum Laboratories. Despite these developments, a few cases of tick paralysis in children are seen at major hospitals every year .............

http://medent.usyd.edu.au/fact/ticks.htm

Have you NOT noticed this topic is NOT about kids in the house or anything else but ONLY how to deal with ticks

... and that he refers to Australian research about the Paralysis tick ... apparently not available in Thailand.

[DekDaeng]

Buy some borax, & a bottle of peroxide at chemist. (Borax prolly at chem store, near larger markets)

1 bottle perox, 2 bottles of water, mix, then dissolve as much borax in it as you can.

Apply to dog after washing, allow to drip off. Can keep & reuse.

Worked well on my Thai dog, losing hair from insects under the skin.

Prolly will work for ticks & fleas too -

Chok dee.

[Pacificperson]

I will vouch for Ivermectin. It is quite broad spectrum and is used in humans, large animals and fish. You can by the injectable form in feed stores here and mix it with grenadine syrup. The dogs will take by mouth. It is a lot cheaper this way than buying the tabs.

[Beetlejuice]

None of the powders, shampoos, sprays or collars work. Just a waste of time, money and many of these products could poison your dogs.

The only solution I have found that works on my dogs in Frontline.

If you let your dogs roam about off your property, then there is nothing you can do to avoid your dogs getting tick, flea and other parasite infestations. They will get them from the environment and from contact with other dogs.

The only way to limit your dog’s parasitical infestations, if your dogs are not confirmed to a premises, is to shower your dogs once a week, using a mild baby shampoo and apply Frontline every 14 days and not just once a month, plus every day physically check your dogs for ticks and if found pull them off. Also wash bedding once a week and keep areas where they sleep clean. This will not eradicate these parasites completely, but it will kill most of the ticks on contact. Although more expensive, this is the only method that work, if you value your dogs and their welfare.

[lemoncake]

None of the powders, shampoos, sprays or collars work. Just a waste of time, money and many of these products could poison your dogs.

The only solution I have found that works on my dogs in Frontline.

If you let your dogs roam about off your property, then there is nothing you can do to avoid your dogs getting tick, flea and other parasite infestations. They will get them from the environment and from contact with other dogs.

The only way to limit your dog’s parasitical infestations, if your dogs are not confirmed to a premises, is to shower your dogs once a week, using a mild baby shampoo and apply Frontline every 14 days and not just once a month, plus every day physically check your dogs for ticks and if found pull them off. Also wash bedding once a week and keep areas where they sleep clean. This will not eradicate these parasites completely, but it will kill most of the ticks on contact. Although more expensive, this is the only method that work, if you value your dogs and their welfare.

Well here we go people, problem solved,

Who would have thought something as simple as frontline would fix the problem?!

[Mosha]

Can't get the fancy stuff in the sticks. I dust her down, and stroke her all over. Even small ticks turn up that way. Works on our puppy too.

Sorry Ma'am I know back in my cormer

[market trader]

Hope you do not have children in the house - if so suggest you get rid of the dog it is not worth the risk ......

Tick paralysis is most likely to be seen in children. The initial symptoms of tick paralysis may include unsteady gait, increased weakness of the limbs, multiple rashes, headache, fever, flu like symptoms, tenderness of lymph nodes, and partial facial paralysis. Tick paralysis develops slowly as the tick engorges, which will take several days. Despite the removal of the tick, the patient's condition typically will continue to deteriorate for a time and recovery is often slow. Undetected ticks are another possible reason for any prologed debilitation and should always remain a concern. Improvements in modern medicine and the development of a tick antitoxin have prevented further deaths from tick paralysis in the last 70 years. The antitoxin is available from the Commonwealth Serum Laboratories. Despite these developments, a few cases of tick paralysis in children are seen at major hospitals every year .............

http://medent.usyd.edu.au/fact/ticks.htm

Have you NOT noticed this topic is NOT about kids in the house or anything else but ONLY how to deal with ticks:rolleyes:

Nothing ticks me off more than someone who just has to give a smart assed answer to a post.

[thcmm]

I have had a Golden Retriever for 7 years in Thailand. Lived on Samui, Khaolak and now in Bangkok. My dog had some issues on Samui with ticks from time to time and a case of mange once, the Samui Dog Rescue administered Bayer Advocate which worked wonders.

I now live in Samut Prakarn, a concrete jungle with little vegetation but surprisingly the tick/flee/mange problem is exponentially greater here than it was anyplace else I lived in the south.

I have tried everything but Frontline due to the negative reports of its effectiveness.

I recommend Bayer Advocate. It will terminate any existing infestation in less than 3 days and works great for just over a month. I use one large dose tube for two months (one application every 30 days) with my medium/large sized Golden.

We order it from:

www.click2vet.com

Never had a delivery issue...

Some Vets stock it in Thailand too but beware of China fakes.

Cheers...

[lemoncake]

Hope you do not have children in the house - if so suggest you get rid of the dog it is not worth the risk ......

Tick paralysis is most likely to be seen in children. The initial symptoms of tick paralysis may include unsteady gait, increased weakness of the limbs, multiple rashes, headache, fever, flu like symptoms, tenderness of lymph nodes, and partial facial paralysis. Tick paralysis develops slowly as the tick engorges, which will take several days. Despite the removal of the tick, the patient's condition typically will continue to deteriorate for a time and recovery is often slow. Undetected ticks are another possible reason for any prologed debilitation and should always remain a concern. Improvements in modern medicine and the development of a tick antitoxin have prevented further deaths from tick paralysis in the last 70 years. The antitoxin is available from the Commonwealth Serum Laboratories. Despite these developments, a few cases of tick paralysis in children are seen at major hospitals every year .............

http://medent.usyd.edu.au/fact/ticks.htm

Have you NOT noticed this topic is NOT about kids in the house or anything else but ONLY how to deal with ticks:rolleyes:

Nothing ticks me off more than someone who just has to give a smart assed answer to a post.

You could always discuss it with your doctor at your convenience

[lemoncake]

I have had a Golden Retriever for 7 years in Thailand. Lived on Samui, Khaolak and now in Bangkok. My dog had some issues on Samui with ticks from time to time and a case of mange once, the Samui Dog Rescue administered Bayer Advocate which worked wonders.

I now live in Samut Prakarn, a concrete jungle with little vegetation but surprisingly the tick/flee/mange problem is exponentially greater here than it was anyplace else I lived in the south.

I have tried everything but Frontline due to the negative reports of its effectiveness.

I recommend Bayer Advocate. It will terminate any existing infestation in less than 3 days and works great for just over a month. I use one large dose tube for two months (one application every 30 days) with my medium/large sized Golden.

We order it from:

www.click2vet.com

Never had a delivery issue...

Some Vets stock it in Thailand too but beware of China fakes.

Cheers...

I use Advocate on my cats and it works well, but does not seem to work on Dogs.

Frontline has proven to be useless over the years, it does not even kill the fleas, but does make dogs feel lethargic.

Revolution is ok but in my opinion expansive for what it is.

GIven choice i like Virbac, but i guess just like people, different medicine work different for different dogs

[khaowong1]

When I was living in Oklahoma, a vet told me to feed my dogs a little yeast everyday. about a thimble full, mixed in their dog food. It worked. Didn't have anymore tick problems.

[Cuban]

The key comment in a post above is to seek out the tick reservoir, where the adult ticks lay their eggs, and kill them before they get a chance to fed on your dog.

A bloated tick will fall away from a dog then seek to climb whatever is there, be it a wall, post or tree then find a crevice to lay eggs. Go looking for these places armed with freshly boiled water or some flammable liquid and a lighter.

In the wild ticks will lay in wait on the stems of long grass to attach to anything warm that expels CO2, so using a fine comb after a walk is wise IMHO.

The other prevention that I was against when I first read about it but have now come to adopt is the use of raw garlic. Now I know many dog aware people will be twitching to respond that garlic is food forbidden for dogs, it's toxic, my dog will explode etc etc. And I concur that too much may well cause liver damage, but IME a small clove once a week does seem to keep ticks and fleas at bay.

I am more in favour of "nature's" cure than the chemical cocktail offered by Frontline or shampoos that remove oils and the dog's natural smell that mother nature gave him. A dog that is brushed and combed clean does not a bath more than three months apart.

With garlic and dogs I strongly suggest you do your own research and use common-sense judgement. I think the documented cases of dog reaction to garlic and other toxic food effects are a combination of dose per Kg body weight and genetic factors akin to the "Western" diseases of peanut allergy and asthma. Then there is the in-bred factors that affect some breeds rather than others, many cute toy breeds that come from a long line of cousins, not good for hybrid vigor.

[Beetlejuice]

I have had a Golden Retriever for 7 years in Thailand. Lived on Samui, Khaolak and now in Bangkok. My dog had some issues on Samui with ticks from time to time and a case of mange once, the Samui Dog Rescue administered Bayer Advocate which worked wonders.

I now live in Samut Prakarn, a concrete jungle with little vegetation but surprisingly the tick/flee/mange problem is exponentially greater here than it was anyplace else I lived in the south.

I have tried everything but Frontline due to the negative reports of its effectiveness.

I recommend Bayer Advocate. It will terminate any existing infestation in less than 3 days and works great for just over a month. I use one large dose tube for two months (one application every 30 days) with my medium/large sized Golden.

We order it from:

www.click2vet.com

Never had a delivery issue...

Some Vets stock it in Thailand too but beware of China fakes.

Cheers...

Yes I agree.

I have also used Bayer Advocate on my dogs and it has worked wonders.

It is especially good a ridding the dogs of Demodex mites, sometimes described as walking dandruff, that can be extremely difficult to eradicate.

I would say that Frontline is good for the bigger stuff, such as ticks and fleas and Bayer Advocate for the microscopic pests. But of course everyone has their own preferences and best use that works best for your dogs.

[dasy]

Two other skin medicines that worked for my dog: Revolution and Advokate both applied same as Frontline in the neck. leave at least for a day before rinsing off, do not touch and work with gloves make sure it is room temperature otherwise the dog will shrug it off and spray you with it.

[T_Dog]

I have used ivermec here in Thailand for the past six years and it really works,i inject 1cc per ten kilo once a month and the dogs are tick free.

Available at every vet or pet shop here and not expensive at all.

Your post had my memory reeling about a discussion with the vet about six months ago and sure enough, she showed me in our dog maintenance book where she has been giving Ivomek on our visits. We had a death in the family a few months back and missed a regular appointment, so we missed an Ivokek injection. The stuff must work as we haven't seen any ticks until just the past week. We are back up on the regular vaccination schedule now. Apparently the Ivomek works to ward off a wide variety of parasite-born diseases.

[Arkady]

Two other skin medicines that worked for my dog: Revolution and Advokate both applied same as Frontline in the neck. leave at least for a day before rinsing off, do not touch and work with gloves make sure it is room temperature otherwise the dog will shrug it off and spray you with it.

Never tried Ivermec as vet said it had dangerous side effects in some dogs and didn't offer it, even though others had recommended. Tried Frontline and Revolution many times and they are useless, if there is a major infestation in the environment. We sometimes noticed slightly fewer ticks for a couple of days. That's all. They may be effective for a low level of infestation but if you get it bad, you have to deal with the infestation in your environment, rather than put chemicals on your dogs.

[Keesters]

I've lost two dogs in the past to tick related disease even though Frontline and injections against internal and external parasites were regularly administered. In fact everything that a vet has recommended did not do anything but empty my bank account. A breeder, some might call her a puppy farm, who sells dogs at Pattaya Tai market on Tuesdays and Fridays sold me some Thai version of Frontline called Detick and some Thai made oral endectocide tablets brand named En-Dex 8000. She carefully explained how to administer them and in what quantities. She said that if the dog already has ticks double the dosage the first time.<br /><br />I have to admit that I was a little worried about these Thai versions of tick prevention as none of the packaging had any indication of who or where it was made. No company name, address, not even a phone number. My thoughts are that if you make a product and are reasonably sure of its effectiveness why would you not say who you are. To hide by omission your company details makes me think you have no faith in your own product.<br /><br />The breeder lady assured me that they worked. I did not wish to lose another pet to tick borne disease which I was pretty sure would happen as my pet was completely covered in them and no matter how much time I would spend in pulling off dozens of them each day there would be more the next. I had also sprayed with Permedan, a water based insecticide contact spray, all the places that my dog hangs around at home and garden.<br /><br />So I used the stuff bought from the breeder lady and doubled the dose as she recommended. Within a few days all my dogs ticks had shriveled up and died but were still hanging on. A bath and a brush and they were all gone. Since then I administer a single dose of the 2 products each month and my dog has remained tick-free for the last two years. This thread has prompted me to make a careful check and not one single tick can be found anywhere, paws, between toes, back of neck, armpits etc all clear.<br /><br />I have nothing but praise for both the breeder lady and the Thai made products that I now use. For me they have been nothing less that 200% perfect.<br /><br /><br />

[Cuban]

Never tried Ivermec as vet said it had dangerous side effects in some dogs and didn't offer it, even though others had recommended.

Where a dog is already suffering from Heartworm the Ivermec dose can kill the existing worms leading to a clot affecting the heart. (An anti-body test is available to see if treatment for an existing heartworm infection is required first. Where the vet will offer this will depend on their knowledge of it and whether their clients will bother to have such tests carried out or not - many rural vets and clients will only be interested in cattle and money making animals as a new dog is virtually free. )

Also some "breeds" of dogs are drug sensitive, with a Thai-Bitza (bits of this and bits of that breed) treatment of affected dogs will be a dice roll. Collies and related breeds have adverse reactions to ivermectin.

Hence my comment earlier about garlic etc.

[Joe Mamma]

If you can find some eucalyptus or blue gum trees, take the fresh leaves and add to bedding, the acorns can be spread around the dogs kick back areas, and it is possible to make a collar from the acorns. Have not found local trees or remedies, but you know Thailand has to have something up it's sleeve.

[Wombat6]

When I lived in Australia, I had a business that sold Animal health Products. For ticks on Dogs I recommended Bayer Tiguvon Spot On for Dogs. It is a "pour on" and absorbed through the skin of the dog. This product in a offshoot of the stronger solution Tiguvon Spoton pour on for Cattle ticks. The Chemical used is Fenthion. Bayer Animal Health Division Thailand should be contacted for the name of the product that is marketed here in Thailand

[taotoo]

Interesting to read the negative frontline experiences. I find frontline+ is 99% effective on my dogs, and they're constantly walking through grass, undergrowth etc. I give it every month year round.

Have three dogs and found one fat tick a couple of days ago, last tick found prior to that was a skinny one in january 2012 - so maybe there are a lot around at the moment.

Previously had dogs get blood parasite/microfilariae, but never since they've been on frontline+.

Buying the biggest possible size and splitting between multiple dogs make it half price or better.

[Cuban]

Interesting to read the negative frontline experiences. I find frontline+ is 99% effective on my dogs, and they're constantly walking

through grass, undergrowth etc. I give it every month year round.

One reason that different people experience very different results with the same medication is because of the wide prevalence of counterfeit drugs sold across the world.

Pet owners are easy game and Frontline is a widely faked drug.

Just take a look at the number of warning messages that are produced.....

http://www.dogster.com/the-scoop/counterfeit-advantage-and-frontline-warning

http://ariella42.wordpress.com/2012/07/23/beware-of-counterfeit-frontline-on-amazon-and-why-i-probably-wont-be-buying-from-amazon-again/

http://www.ehow.co.uk/how_5883371_recognize-fake-frontline-plus.html

http://www.ebay.com/gds/how-to-spot-counterfeit-frontline-flea-medication/10000000007091697/g.html

http://www.wikihow.com/Spot-Counterfeit-Frontline-Plus

......don't forget that the fakers will be reading the internet too and so updating their packaging from time to time, so you need to keep checking for the current fake version.

[taotoo]

One reason that different people experience very different results with the same medication is because of the wide prevalence of counterfeit drugs sold across the world.

Yes, I just remembered and was about to post that I'd read something once about fake Frontline being an issue in the US where people buy it from auction sites. So far in Thailand I've always bought it from established vets, not that that is a guarantee of course.