webfact Posted May 10, 2013 Posted May 10, 2013 Shocking new details revealed in Phuket murder case Alasdair Forbes Laszlo Csapai, from his passport. PHUKET: -- More details have emerged of the dealings between alleged Hungarian/Israeli murderer Moshe David, also known as Gabor Nemeth, and missing Hungarian businessman Laszlo Csapai. The details are in a report published just over two years ago by the now defunct Samui Gazette newspaper, and unearthed by a Phuket News reader. David is currently locked up in Phuket on a charge of murdering another Hungarian, Peter Reisz, at the end of last year and then dumping his body in woodland on Phuket. He is also suspected of murdering Mr Csapai. Police are now waiting on the results of DNA tests, due in a week, to verify whether a skeleton disinterred from beneath the basement of David’s house in Samui is that of the missing millionaire. In its 2011 report, the Samui Gazette detailed how David was questioned about Mr Csapai. He was arrested on March 3, 2011, by immigration and police officers after Mr Csapai’s wife, Suthatta Rakasit, reported to police that she had not seen her husband since February 16, when David supposedly picked him up from Samui airport. Ms Suthatta further told police that she had seen David driving around in her husband’s black Toyota Fortuner. She found that ownership of the car had been transferred to David, but told police that her husband’s signature on the transfer papers had been forged. In a call to his wife on February 16, the last time she heard from him, Mr Csapai told her, “Don’t come back to Koh Samui, even if something happens to me.” Plainly Mr Csapai – like Mr Reisz after him – was worried that something very sinister and dangerous was about to explode. The newspaper reported, “Ms Suthatta believes her husband has been murdered.” Police seemed at least half-convinced of this, too. “Authorities who checked David’s house and the nearby area found the land … had been adjusted. They are … looking into the possibility that the missing Hungarian may have been murdered and the body hidden somewhere in the land.” But they found no corpse and, lacking that, a murder investigation could not be launched. It apparently never was. Police did, however, have cause to haul David into the police station for questioning, after finding that he had “spent up to B1 million on furniture and decoration for his house using a credit card belonging” to Mr Csapai, and after confirming Ms Suthatta’s allegations about the transfer of car ownership. The paper reported, “Under questioning the suspect … at first stated he was not involved with the case of the missing Hungarian and did not even know [Mr Csapai]. “When asked, however, why he used [Mr Csapai’s] credit card if he did not know him, [David] kept silent and refused to give more information.” The newspaper said police charged David with forgery, over the car papers, and with fraud, for using another person’s credit card without permission. Then, the Gazette reported, they released him on bail. Twenty-two months later Moshe David was arrested for the murder in Phuket of Peter Reisz. On April 21, the Samui skeleton was dug up after Mata Isawan, interviewed in Hungary by private investigator Ferenc Chilko, admitted to helping David bury the body of Mr Csapai, and told Mr Chilko where it could be found. Surat Thani Provincial Police Commander Maj Gen Kiattipong Khaosum told The Phuket News that preliminary examination of the skeleton revealed that the bones at the back of the neck had been severely damaged, probably by a heavy blow. The original theory advanced by police was that a hoe – a farming implement with a heavy blade – had been used. There were no clothes buried with the body, nor any rings or other personal possessions, which accorded with Isawan’s account that the body had been stripped before being buried. Attempts to identify the body from the teeth had got nowhere, Gen Kiattipong said, because Mr Csapai travelled a lot, using dentists wherever he happened to be, so no dentist could be found who had complete dental records for him. Instead, the identity of the skeleton will, it is hoped, be identified by DNA matching. Hungarian police have extracted a DNA profile from samples provided by Mr Csapai’s mother, and this has been sent to the Institute of Forensic Medicine in Bangkok, where DNA is being extracted from the skeleton. The two profiles – from Hungary and from Thailand – will be compared to see whether there is a close enough match to state definitively that the skeleton is that of Mr Csapai. This should take another week or so. Source: http://www.thephuketnews.com/shocking-new-details-revealed-in-phuket-murder-case-39327.php -- Phuket News 2013-05-10
Popular Post Neilly Posted May 10, 2013 Popular Post Posted May 10, 2013 “When asked, however, why he used [Mr Csapai’s] credit card if he did not know him, [David] kept silent and refused to give more information.” The newspaper said police charged David with forgery, over the car papers, and with fraud, for using another person’s credit card without permission. Then, the Gazette reported, they released him on bail. I find the above truly shocking 5
animatic Posted May 10, 2013 Posted May 10, 2013 More troubling is he was under suspicion of the murder, and charged with crimes that could be directly tied to the believed murder, but he was still bailed easily and he just shifts his operations to Phuket and essentially does the same scam and murder bit. Not as well this time. But this second murder can be partly blamed on the porousness of the Thai justice system. If they had kept him here close, and under observation regularly, he would have been much less likely to think he could do it again. 1
GrantSmith Posted May 10, 2013 Posted May 10, 2013 Nice guy - obviously a 'wet' man. For Mossad or the NBSZ?
Dr Wanchai Posted May 10, 2013 Posted May 10, 2013 (edited) Guilty beyond all doubt until proven innocent. Have a nice time in Bangkok Hilton. Edited May 10, 2013 by Dr Wanchai
sirchai Posted May 10, 2013 Posted May 10, 2013 (edited) On April 21, the Samui skeleton was dug up after Mata Isawan, interviewed in Hungary by private investigator Ferenc Chilko, admitted to helping David bury the body of Mr Csapai, and told Mr Chilko where it could be found. . Edited May 10, 2013 by sirchai
belg Posted May 10, 2013 Posted May 10, 2013 i guess no money left for a scent dog ? that might have brought some light to the case
theajarn Posted May 10, 2013 Posted May 10, 2013 i guess no money left for a scent dog ? that might have brought some light to the case Rather the money all went to the police (and not a judge... or maybe also to a judge) for the "bail".
BigC Posted May 10, 2013 Posted May 10, 2013 (edited) well usually there is more to the story than what we can read. i hope the judge has the whole story and listens to all evidence. Out here if people want you to be guilty. if powerful want you to be guilty then u r. like it or not Maybe he carried on using the credit card to make it look as though he was still alive. then decided to spice up his own pockets at the same time. silly <deleted> As to the motive for killing him. i wonder what the full motive was. i reckon he was just a hired killer what do i but what know nothing. only a guess which amounts to nothing Edited May 10, 2013 by BigC
BigC Posted May 10, 2013 Posted May 10, 2013 is this the man who wears a balaclarver on his head when on the news in hand cufffs. is this the best picture we can get. why does he get specail treatment. i have never seen that before in Thailand.maybe that is is real face just looks like a balacalaver maybe that picture is his mask. maybe he is some freak like out of a bat man film
attento Posted May 10, 2013 Posted May 10, 2013 Looks like a case for Mrs. Marple. or even, Miss Marple 1
Judo Chop Posted May 10, 2013 Posted May 10, 2013 is this the man who wears a balaclarver on his head when on the news in hand cufffs. is this the best picture we can get. why does he get specail treatment. i have never seen that before in Thailand.maybe that is is real face just looks like a balacalaver maybe that picture is his mask. maybe he is some freak like out of a bat man film The caption actually suggests that the photo is of the deceased, not the alleged murderer!
beowolf2012 Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 cutcase in thailand is not the same as other place in the wold
animatic Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 well usually there is more to the story than what we can read. i hope the judge has the whole story and listens to all evidence. Out here if people want you to be guilty. if powerful want you to be guilty then u r. like it or not Maybe he carried on using the credit card to make it look as though he was still alive. then decided to spice up his own pockets at the same time. silly <deleted> As to the motive for killing him. i wonder what the full motive was. i reckon he was just a hired killer what do i but what know nothing. only a guess which amounts to nothing Seems evil amateur... Bury the guy in your own house. Have a Thai help you do it.... Amazingly stupid. Things a pro would NEVER do.
transam Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 Looks like a case for Mrs. Marple. MISS. Marple. ....................
attento Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 Looks like a case for Mrs. Marple. MISS. Marple. .................... Miss Marple would have studied post #15 before she commented ...................................
transam Posted May 13, 2013 Posted May 13, 2013 Looks like a case for Mrs. Marple. MISS. Marple. .................... Miss Marple would have studied post #15 before she commented ................................... Making double sure Hastings.
Beetlejuice Posted May 13, 2013 Posted May 13, 2013 Nice guy - obviously a 'wet' man. For Mossad or the NBSZ? Who knows what they are or who they are? Shady as hell. As I have said many times here on Thai visa, choose your company very carefully in the land of smiles, keep a low profile, stay within the boundaries of the laws and don`t become involved. Thailand for easy living and easy dying.
MegaRanter Posted May 13, 2013 Posted May 13, 2013 Apparently he does nt believe in ghosts, driving around in the dead man's car.
attento Posted May 13, 2013 Posted May 13, 2013 Looks like a case for Mrs. Marple. MISS. Marple. .................... Miss Marple would have studied post #15 before she commented ................................... Making double sure Hastings. Bien sûr, Hercule
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