DSI chief meets luxury auto firms

[john stevens]

emmm... D.S.I .......... what a bunch of friging mupets ..... thailand has no one to blame but its self .... crazy stupid import taxes ..... make them more affordable to people ........ the same as trying to get a new book for a second hand car or motor bike ........... TIT all the way ......emmm why did i move here ......ohhh yes ..... remember now ......... ............ when will the shit really hit the fan here ....... hope i'm still alive to see it ....

[chainarong]

As long as DSI chief treads the well worn path of other great inspectors , like inspector Claude O , the case should be wrapped up in no time

[retarius]

If I am not mistaken the resale activity voids warranties and is also contrary to several of the vehicle dealership concession agreements. Thai dealers most certainly do not want the foreign sourced vehicles entering Thailand as it cuts into their profits.

Unless the dealerships are getting a cut....I know it is extremely unlikely that any car dealer would do anything illegal to increase his profits, but just maybe they are getting together with the 'chop' shops, or bringing the cars in almost whole (say with the wheels and doors taken off) and then they reassemble them here after making a small contribution to those good folk at the Customs Department who just happened to be asleep when they Ferrari/MB/BMW container came through....I know it's a really remote possibility, but it could have happened

[Thai at Heart]

If you disassemble a car, import it and reassemble, why would the chassis, engine and gearbox numbers NOT match?

Clever of Tharit to use this sensitive time to shop around for the best discount.

You read my mind!

Surely you could disassemble more than one car then import them as auto parts. When they get here you reassemble them but not with matching parts. That way they all have non matching numbers so can be claimed to be reassembled.

Either I'm misunderstanding something or someone is pretty stupid as I worked this out in about 30 seconds.

Surely what you do is take the gear box and engine out, leave the body in the rain and crap for a few days, and take the wheels off and claim it is a write off insurance car for parts.

Ship the body in one container. Ship the wheels and engine and gearbox on another. Claim all are spares.

Pick them up from customs, pay 30% for spares, put it back together, give it a polish. Dada.

They don't completely disassemble anything.

[OzMick]

If you disassemble a car, import it and reassemble, why would the chassis, engine and gearbox numbers NOT match?

Clever of Tharit to use this sensitive time to shop around for the best discount.

You read my mind!

Surely you could disassemble more than one car then import them as auto parts. When they get here you reassemble them but not with matching parts. That way they all have non matching numbers so can be claimed to be reassembled.

Either I'm misunderstanding something or someone is pretty stupid as I worked this out in about 30 seconds.

The question is, are these really re-assembled cars or is it merely a tax scam. That should take you less than 30 seconds.

[Newguy70]

Would love to see a breakdown of all new cars sold per year, and where and how those taxes are allocated in Thailand...

Why aren't they chasing down that story as well!

[Songhua]

The cars have not been reassembled at all. Why break a supercar apart when you can simply smuggle it or pay someone to look the other way?

There'll be a few low to middle ranking customs officers, drivers and document runners shaking in their boots right now because they know better than anyone that somebody is going to have to take a fall although not a single everyday name will ever be released.

- Huh? But I'm just Somchai - the number plate courier.

* OK, well, you're nicked because you are the mastermind of a luxury car tax scam.

- But I'm a nobody. What about the buyers etc?

* Sorry, they all came forward before the deadline and they're in the clear so it'd be unethical to reveal their names.

[jbrain]

I all understand your concern about the driver being the scape goat. But what i find interesting is that the driver has changed name from the original story.

Truck driver Ekkapat Wilamas, 37, told police he was driving the truck uphill with six luxury cars onboard the trailer

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/642999-luxury-cars-worth-bt100-million-destroyed-in-semi-trailer-fire/

The hunt for Natee Riwthong, the driver of the truck carrying the six cars, is likely to end with his arrest soon

Edited June 16, 2013 by jbrain

[seajae]

we will see him driving his own "luxury car" soon after this

[colin2]

Thailand exports over a million cars a year to countries that don't impose the ridiculous rates of tax that are

levied here. You cannot expect to export freely whilst effectively closing your own market. Europe should impose

taxes of 350% on Thai exports into the EU, meanwhile the smugglers are making millions per vehicle providing plenty

of finance to fund the necessary paperwork.

This is Thailand , and not europe. Keep your blood pressure low and just say sawady krup. I think it means <deleted>> you !.

[Songhua]

we will see him driving his own "luxury car" soon after this

LOL. Maybe there were originally seven.

[pisico]

'BANGKOK: -- The Department of Special Investigation (DSI) chief, Tarit Pengdit, yesterday summoned representatives of 10 luxury auto companies to discuss the problem of tax evasion in an attempt to understand and solve the problem of luxury-auto-related tax evasion.'

LOL, if they actually set a sensible import tax then people wouldn't try to smuggle and they would probably gain more tax income. The UK is a good example of this with the high cigarette tax encouraging smuggling.

In a way these weren't really smuggled though, they were allowed to enter untaxed.

This is why I don't understand why as yet customs hasn't been turned inside out.

To go in depth in Customs would open a Pandora's box.

Shift the focus of the problem when no one is looking (wink, wink) and it will give the impression that the DSI is really doing its job to safeguard the laws and the welfare of the Thai people. Corruption is an industry in Thailand that rises from the bottom of the sois to the highest levels of government and business. Will anyone be retarded enough to attempt to make a dent in this pervasive corruption? No such integrity in this latitude. If chiefs of Police are caught red handed running illegal casinos in Bangkok and their "punishment" has been to be reassigned to an inactive post, it is unlikely that anyone will throw the first stone.

[Thai at Heart]

'BANGKOK: -- The Department of Special Investigation (DSI) chief, Tarit Pengdit, yesterday summoned representatives of 10 luxury auto companies to discuss the problem of tax evasion in an attempt to understand and solve the problem of luxury-auto-related tax evasion.'

LOL, if they actually set a sensible import tax then people wouldn't try to smuggle and they would probably gain more tax income. The UK is a good example of this with the high cigarette tax encouraging smuggling.

In a way these weren't really smuggled though, they were allowed to enter untaxed.

This is why I don't understand why as yet customs hasn't been turned inside out.

To go in depth in Customs would open a Pandora's box.

Shift the focus of the problem when no one is looking (wink, wink) and it will give the impression that the DSI is really doing its job to safeguard the laws and the welfare of the Thai people. Corruption is an industry in Thailand that rises from the bottom of the sois to the highest levels of government and business. Will anyone be retarded enough to attempt to make a dent in this pervasive corruption? No such integrity in this latitude. If chiefs of Police are caught red handed running illegal casinos in Bangkok and their "punishment" has been to be reassigned to an inactive post, it is unlikely that anyone will throw the first stone.

Um. The issue that this started with is that it's cheating money from the taxpayer. There is no point in doing this crackdown at all without closing the site behind it.

Pissing off random people for tax is going to really piss of the ptp enemies.

Edited June 16, 2013 by Thai at Heart

[rakman]

If you disassemble a car, import it and reassemble, why would the chassis, engine and gearbox numbers NOT match?

Clever of Tharit to use this sensitive time to shop around for the best discount.

You import 2 or 3 and mix and match, just for show. The legal dealers are probably not involved, its the grey market shops that are "using a loophole", if one exists.

Now if 6 grey market cars are on a truck IN country, they would have had to pass through a customs facility. The VIN numbers should have been recorded. So it should be easy to go through the records and find out the facts of who imported them, from where and value.

If they they passed through customs on a bribe, then someone has some 'splainin' to do.

[pisico]

If you disassemble a car, import it and reassemble, why would the chassis, engine and gearbox numbers NOT match?

Clever of Tharit to use this sensitive time to shop around for the best discount.

You import 2 or 3 and mix and match, just for show. The legal dealers are probably not involved, its the grey market shops that are "using a loophole", if one exists.

Now if 6 grey market cars are on a truck IN country, they would have had to pass through a customs facility. The VIN numbers should have been recorded. So it should be easy to go through the records and find out the facts of who imported them, from where and value.

If they they passed through customs on a bribe, then someone has some 'splainin' to do.

'Splaining'? In Thailand? T I T. It's It has been Thai way for centuries and it will continue that way because the people do not care to end it. Least of all those in government. But, political transgressions... ? you get the picture.

[Thai at Heart]

If you disassemble a car, import it and reassemble, why would the chassis, engine and gearbox numbers NOT match?

Clever of Tharit to use this sensitive time to shop around for the best discount.

You import 2 or 3 and mix and match, just for show. The legal dealers are probably not involved, its the grey market shops that are "using a loophole", if one exists.

Now if 6 grey market cars are on a truck IN country, they would have had to pass through a customs facility. The VIN numbers should have been recorded. So it should be easy to go through the records and find out the facts of who imported them, from where and value.

If they they passed through customs on a bribe, then someone has some 'splainin' to do.

'Splaining'? In Thailand? T I T. It's It has been Thai way for centuries and it will continue that way because the people do not care to end it. Least of all those in government. But, political transgressions... ? you get the picture.

All roads in this story start at Customs. They are chasing the end of the story without apparently starting at the beginning.

[jbrain]

If you disassemble a car, import it and reassemble, why would the chassis, engine and gearbox numbers NOT match?

Clever of Tharit to use this sensitive time to shop around for the best discount.

You import 2 or 3 and mix and match, just for show. The legal dealers are probably not involved, its the grey market shops that are "using a loophole", if one exists.

Now if 6 grey market cars are on a truck IN country, they would have had to pass through a customs facility. The VIN numbers should have been recorded. So it should be easy to go through the records and find out the facts of who imported them, from where and value.

If they they passed through customs on a bribe, then someone has some 'splainin' to do.

'Splaining'? In Thailand? T I T. It's It has been Thai way for centuries and it will continue that way because the people do not care to end it. Least of all those in government. But, political transgressions... ? you get the picture.

All roads in this story start at Customs. They are chasing the end of the story without apparently starting at the beginning.

Generally in every investigation they start at the end and work their way back to the source

[Thai at Heart]

If you disassemble a car, import it and reassemble, why would the chassis, engine and gearbox numbers NOT match?

Clever of Tharit to use this sensitive time to shop around for the best discount.

You import 2 or 3 and mix and match, just for show. The legal dealers are probably not involved, its the grey market shops that are "using a loophole", if one exists.

Now if 6 grey market cars are on a truck IN country, they would have had to pass through a customs facility. The VIN numbers should have been recorded. So it should be easy to go through the records and find out the facts of who imported them, from where and value.

If they they passed through customs on a bribe, then someone has some 'splainin' to do.

'Splaining'? In Thailand? T I T. It's It has been Thai way for centuries and it will continue that way because the people do not care to end it. Least of all those in government. But, political transgressions... ? you get the picture.

All roads in this story start at Customs. They are chasing the end of the story without apparently starting at the beginning.

Generally in every investigation they start at the end and work their way back to the source

Depends if you think the crime is buying the car underpriced after it had been imported, or fiddling customs out of their tax.

If customs wasn't so bloody corrupt, this story would never have occurred.

[mrtoad]

Trait will be driving a nice new car soon, and sharing a few glasses of ear medicine with Chalerm.