Farangs - are we all the same in Thai Eyes?

[2008bangkok]

More times than not it is there fault but doesn't mean the next door neighbor should come and give them a crack just for the hell of it.

[krisb]

C'mon, there's only 1 reason why she thinks they're all the same.

[His Masters Voice]

ironically, the OP's question presupposes all thais are the same

What words would have you used to frame the question?

It's easy to offer a criticism, but difficult to offer an answer.

[His Masters Voice]

Rule 1

If you are a foreigner, you must never allow your Thai partner to meet or interact with your foreign friends Thai partners.

Unless, of course, you are happy to get into this sort of shit.

Rule 2

If you broke 'Rule 1' (as you did) when the upset happens (as it invariably will) you must find some excuse to immediately rush out of the house using any bullshit excuse (like: Oh, I forgot my passport at the office), then fail to return home until the next morning. Finding said partner either , gone for good (no big loss), of extremely happy to see you (make-up sex).

Rule 3

Never ever argue, explain or discuss. Thais find all three actions extremely confrontational and will look on it as a declaration of total war.

I don't live in Thailand. When I go and socialise with friends, shall I tether her at home to front gate?

[somtampet]

Not read all of your post but ANY woman who acts like that is a brick short of a load.

My reply to your post now

Thais look at a person for what they are in general not by his birth place.

[His Masters Voice]

ironically, the OP's question presupposes all thais are the same

That's a common feature of the Us versus THEM threads that run over and over and over again.

If there is any disagreement or misunderstanding between a farang and a Thai, it's automatically assumed that all farang are being challenged by all Thais, carefully ignoring the fact that most farang aren't all that thrilled with other farang and Thais have differing opinions ( and differing education levels and different backgrounds and ...)

Supposedly THEY don't want US here, which is a popular topic that assumes that THEY all spend their days thinking about complete strangers. In recent threads a disagreement between one farang and one Thai driver demonstrated conclusively that THEY don't like US. And there is the thread that supposedly proves that THEY cannot use maps, with the tacit assumption that all of US can (because all farang are apparently so well educated, ha , ha).

How insecure can people be that there seems to be no end to the threads based on the theory that THEY don't love US? I mean seriously, back in Farang Utopia where homogeneity supposedly reigns, does everyone love one another and never engage in irrational arguments? If you were that beloved how could the people at home have allowed you to abandon them. Surely by now they've gone on hunger strikes and pined away to nothingness at your absence.

And considering that in western countries divorce is outpacing marriage, how can that be when all farang are totally sympatico with one another?

You should be a politician.

I asked this question -

So, do you think that, on the whole, most of our Cultures are the same?

Are we in the Western World basically the same - if not - what are our differences - from a Thai perspective?

And you gave that answer?

[somtampet]

I think it is all down to education. Very little geography is taught in Thai schools(see recent post on map reading and navigation skills). My wife of 30 years still cannot tell the difference between 2 Europeans nor between European and North American. We All look and act the same to her. All dark skinned people are " negro" to her, and Arab and "Kek" are mutually indistinguishabl.e

My partner of 10 years hasnt had the best of an education but she can tell the difference,even pick up on different accents like scouse and cockney etc etc

[I Like Thai]

Your wife doesn't know all Farang men, so she cannot know if all Farangs are the same.

You started your post saying that you were fighting with your wife.

Maybe it's simply a case of you being the same as your Farang friend.

[somtampet]

Rule 1

If you are a foreigner, you must never allow your Thai partner to meet or interact with your foreign friends Thai partners.

Unless, of course, you are happy to get into this sort of shit.

Rule 2

If you broke 'Rule 1' (as you did) when the upset happens (as it invariably will) you must find some excuse to immediately rush out of the house using any bullshit excuse (like: Oh, I forgot my passport at the office), then fail to return home until the next morning. Finding said partner either , gone for good (no big loss), of extremely happy to see you (make-up sex).

Rule 3

Never ever argue, explain or discuss. Thais find all three actions extremely confrontational and will look on it as a declaration of total war.

I don't live in Thailand. When I go and socialise with friends, shall I tether her at home to front gate?

Unbelievable post byAmerican,hope he is joking

[AnotherOneAmerican]

Rule 1

If you are a foreigner, you must never allow your Thai partner to meet or interact with your foreign friends Thai partners.

Unless, of course, you are happy to get into this sort of shit.

Rule 2

If you broke 'Rule 1' (as you did) when the upset happens (as it invariably will) you must find some excuse to immediately rush out of the house using any bullshit excuse (like: Oh, I forgot my passport at the office), then fail to return home until the next morning. Finding said partner either , gone for good (no big loss), of extremely happy to see you (make-up sex).

Rule 3

Never ever argue, explain or discuss. Thais find all three actions extremely confrontational and will look on it as a declaration of total war.

I don't live in Thailand. When I go and socialise with friends, shall I tether her at home to front gate?

Unbelievable post byAmerican,hope he is joking

I wouldn't restrict where she goes, or who she goes with, she would have complete freedom.

I just wouldn't invite her along to mix with my foreigner friends, neither would I invite my foreigner friends partners home to meet her.

It's very easy to do, with no loss of face on anyone's part.

Very few Thai males take their partners with them when they go out, giks or hookers are often around.

Edited July 3, 2013 by AnotherOneAmerican

[somtampet]

Rule 1

If you are a foreigner, you must never allow your Thai partner to meet or interact with your foreign friends Thai partners.

Unless, of course, you are happy to get into this sort of shit.

Rule 2

If you broke 'Rule 1' (as you did) when the upset happens (as it invariably will) you must find some excuse to immediately rush out of the house using any bullshit excuse (like: Oh, I forgot my passport at the office), then fail to return home until the next morning. Finding said partner either , gone for good (no big loss), of extremely happy to see you (make-up sex).

Rule 3

Never ever argue, explain or discuss. Thais find all three actions extremely confrontational and will look on it as a declaration of total war.

I don't live in Thailand. When I go and socialise with friends, shall I tether her at home to front gate?

Unbelievable post byAmerican,hope he is joking

I wouldn't restrict where she goes, or who she goes with, she would have complete freedom.

I just wouldn't invite her along to mix with my foreigner friends, neither would I invite my foreigner friends partners home to meet her.

It's very easy to do, with no loss of face on anyone's part.

Very few Thai males take their partners with them when they go out, giks or hookers are often around.

Thought we are talking about farng men not thai men????/

[AnotherOneAmerican]

Thought we are talking about farng men not thai men????/

Nights out with foreigner men are worse, some muppet always turns up with a blatent hooker on his arm.

Do you want your wife socialising with a hooker?

[ABCer]

HMV.

There is not even a possibility of all Farangs being the same. Irrespectively of where they come from. People are individuals and they differ. Apparently your wife does not recognize this fact.

Good luck to both of you. But I wouldn't be happy to be told by my wife that 'we' are all the same to her...

My first reaction would have been: 'How many did you know?'...

My second thought would have been: 'Go to another one' ... 'And why can't I do the same'...

My third thought would have been: 'She is a typical Thai and we are not compatible'... 'she deserves only a typical Thai man'...

Please disregard my thoughts and live according to your's...

I'm afraid this is another case of "I am a victim of Racism and want more of it!".

BTW I am aware of your request not to have a go at your wife/g/f. I am having a go at you.

Edited July 4, 2013 by ABCer

[SteeleJoe]

ironically, the OP's question presupposes all thais are the same

Beat me to it.

[SteeleJoe]

You have to wonder what quality of relationship (communication, mutual respect etc) the Op has with his wife.

"All Farang the same" certainly leads the reader to a less than complimentary image.

I wasn't going to say it - and still feel like maybe I shouldn't - but that's exactly what immediately occurred to me.

[somtampet]

Thought we are talking about farng men not thai men????/

Nights out with foreigner men are worse, some muppet always turns up with a blatent hooker on his arm.

Do you want your wife socialising with a hooker?

Most of my mates have steady gf,s,the rest know that they dont bring hookers to my house,and she is not my wife

[SteeleJoe]

I hate them all......they are uncivilised ignorant uneducated fools who would sell their mothers for a few thousand baht

the only reason I stay here is the all year round sunshine and cheap living and of course cheap beautiful women 20 years younger than me

I think most on here would secretly agree with me if they were honest with themselves

The post above post has 3 likes so far.

Even more than it's very existence, that fact makes me seriously question being a part of this forum.

[jmccarty]

I live here in Thailand with my Filipina wife. I have 2 different friends that have 1. Left his Singaporean wife for a Thai girl in Hua Hin and bought her a bar and 2. Still has his American wife in the US but bought a Thai girl a bar here in Pattaya and my Filipina wife is now terrified that I will do the same thing so forbids me to go to any bar without her. She has also asked me outright if I would ever do that repeatedly. This is not just a Thai female attribute. Many women are insecure and jealous over things they can't control and fear for their future. Especially if you are their financial freedom and they perceive the slightest risk to their future and rice bowl.

Oh, and I especially can not go to either of my friends bars period, not even with her.

[I Like Thai]

How many times as men have we said to other men. "Women, they're all the bloody same"

We're just too clever (scared) to say it to a woman.

Try and not to read too much into things

[rijb]

You might want to ask her for examples about how we're all the same. Her measurement criteria might be interesting.

[theblether]

Rule 1

If you are a foreigner, you must never allow your Thai partner to meet or interact with your foreign friends Thai partners.

Unless, of course, you are happy to get into this sort of shit.

Rule 2

If you broke 'Rule 1' (as you did) when the upset happens (as it invariably will) you must find some excuse to immediately rush out of the house using any bullshit excuse (like: Oh, I forgot my passport at the office), then fail to return home until the next morning. Finding said partner either , gone for good (no big loss), of extremely happy to see you (make-up sex).

Rule 3

Never ever argue, explain or discuss. Thais find all three actions extremely confrontational and will look on it as a declaration of total war.

You have a very stange vision of the relationship with a Thai partner/wife

rule 1 in fact is to put your partner in a cage, "you must never allow your Thai partner to meet or interact with your foreign friends"

rule 2 being so stupidly macho I will not comment,

rule 3, never argue is understandable, but never explain or discuss Thai will find those two actions confrontational...decaration of total war for explanation or discussion, from where your own experience with Thai people come from, prison? mafia? lunatic asylum ? telling me you know better for you'r half Thai will not convince me!

He claims to be a single guy living with two cats called Dalaar and Agent Orange in Mae Rim. I think he falls out with his cats a lot.

[AnotherOneAmerican]

Way off topic here but

Dalaar is the perfect female pussy, always soft and cuddly, only complains when I forget to put out enough kibble.

Agent Orange, not around that much, too busy out and about shagging all the girls.

Edited July 4, 2013 by AnotherOneAmerican

[Tchooptip]

I hate them all......they are uncivilised ignorant uneducated fools who would sell their mothers for a few thousand baht

the only reason I stay here is the all year round sunshine and cheap living and of course cheap beautiful women 20 years younger than me

I think most on here would secretly agree with me if they were honest with themselves

The post above post has 3 likes so far.

Even more than it's very existence, that fact makes me seriously question being a part of this forum.

For sure this post too much already ...then 3 likes Singha? Leo? Chang? Mekhong maybe, who knows?

[Berkshire]

I hate them all......they are uncivilised ignorant uneducated fools who would sell their mothers for a few thousand baht

the only reason I stay here is the all year round sunshine and cheap living and of course cheap beautiful women 20 years younger than me

I think most on here would secretly agree with me if they were honest with themselves

The post above post has 3 likes so far.

Even more than it's very existence, that fact makes me seriously question being a part of this forum.

You have to admire his honesty, although he's still scum. Ignorant blowhards like that will inevitably get theirs. I expect he'll be joining the Pattaya Flying Club soon enough.

[benalibina]

IF the shit hits the fan Thais will stick together no matter what the situation and no matter if they are in the wrong.Thai rak Thai.

The mentality as you describe prevents progress in this beautiful country. Lack of thinking, educstion but most of all empathy.

[benalibina]

I hate them all......they are uncivilised ignorant uneducated fools who would sell their mothers for a few thousand bahtthe only reason I stay here is the all year round sunshine and cheap living and of course cheap beautiful women 20 years younger than meI think most on here would secretly agree with me if they were honest with themselves

The post above post has 3 likes so far.Even more than it's very existence, that fact makes me seriously question being a part of this forum.

Do you want everybody have the same opinion as you ?

What is a forum for ?

Kapom !

[iancnx]

Some of the American comment here really does exposé a level of arrogance that is quintessentially American.

[iancnx]

OP can you share what your friend is supposed to have done? Why was she so hissed off?

[Berkshire]

I hate them all......they are uncivilised ignorant uneducated fools who would sell their mothers for a few thousand baht

the only reason I stay here is the all year round sunshine and cheap living and of course cheap beautiful women 20 years younger than me

I think most on here would secretly agree with me if they were honest with themselves

The post above post has 3 likes so far.

Even more than it's very existence, that fact makes me seriously question being a part of this forum.

It's rather clear where nattydread spends most of his time:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/652515-the-bargirls-ten-commandments/

So typical that farangs with this sort of attitude spends most of their time in bars buying hookers.

[magicianred]

ok im 100% thai but i love reading you guys opinion.let me get this straight and shortly.you are not all the same in thais eye.all i can tell i think its all about women's opinion especially when they get mad.german,english,american they have a different charactor We can tell!

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