Proposed solution to Chalong circle traffic

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Proposed solution to Chalong circle traffic
Prapaporn Jitmaneeyaphan

PHUKET: -- Six different possibilities for a proposed new underpass or overpass have been mooted in an effort to solve the traffic jams at Chalong circle.

During a meeting at Phuket Provincial Hall on Tuesday (July 2), the Phuket Highways Office described the plan to build the project in the area, and planning is now underway.

The six proposed routes for the new underpass or overpass are as follows:

A two way underpass/overpass between Chao Fah East and Wiset Rd (to Rawai);
A two way underpass/overpass between Chao Fah East and Pa-tak Rd (to Karon/Kata);
A two-way between Chao Fah West Rd and Wiset Rd (to Rawai);
A one-way southbound from Chao Fah East Rd to Wiset Rd, and a one-way northbound from Wiset Rd to Chao Fah West Rd;
A one-way southbound from Chao Fah East Rd to Wiset Rd, and a one-way southbound from Chao Fah West Rd to Wiset Rd.
A one-way southbound from Chao Fah East Rd to Patak Rd (to Karon/Kata).
The Phuket Highways Office Director, Samak Luedwonghad, told The Phuket News that design drawings were being carried out by consultants and architects at the moment, and were due to be completed by June 2014.

The whole design project will cost the Highways Department an estimated B9 million, but was required to ease traffic congestion around the Chalong circle, specially at peak traffic times.

Mr Samak told those at the meeting that Phuket was a tourist island, so required a modern designed underpass or overpass.

“We need to work hard to find the right design for this project,” he said.

“We have to carefully calculate the right size and shape because Phuket is very small.

The effects on the environment and landscape also needs to be a primary concern too.”

Source: http://www.thephuketnews.com/proposed-solution-to-chalong-circle-traffic-40687.php


-- Phuket News 2013-07-05

[andreandre]

“We have to carefully calculate the right size and shape because Phuket is very small.

Huh???

Edited July 5, 2013 by andreandre

[madmitch]

Mods, do we need another thread on this? Can't it be merged with the other one?

Edited July 5, 2013 by madmitch

[MaxLee]

Trash your cars, destroy and eradicate the FACE FIRST-CAR FIRST-desire mentality out of Thailand's freaking mind and develop quality public transportation

[Netizen]

“We have to carefully calculate the right size and shape because Phuket is very small.

Huh???

No, first have to calculate the prospective disposition of the money.

[Netizen]

Trash your cars, destroy and eradicate the FACE FIRST-CAR FIRST-desire mentality out of Thailand's freaking mind and develop quality public transportationWon't happen because the pepo

Won't happen because the people that benefit from distribution of government money drive expensive European cars and don't benefit from efficient, quality public transport.

[stevenl]

Trash your cars, destroy and eradicate the FACE FIRST-CAR FIRST-desire mentality out of Thailand's freaking mind and develop quality public transportation

Won't have any effect at all at Chalong circle.

[Incobart]

logicaly there is only 1 possibility, and thats a tunnel between rawai road and chao faa west, cause these are the only roads that arrive in 2 lanes

make the road better between kata mountain and rawai wichit road and make it 1 way, so all traffic from patong karon kata, that has to go rawai dont need to pass the cirkel

a shortcut in front of home pro building chao fa west to old esso station chaofa east, can releave the circle also

These 3 will solve trafficjams , and not leading all south phuket traffic to 1 point

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[Incobart]

logicaly there is only 1 possibility, and thats a tunnel between rawai road and chao faa west, cause these are the only roads that arrive in 2 lanes

make the road better between kata mountain and rawai wichit road and make it 1 way, so all traffic from patong karon kata, that has to go rawai dont need to pass the cirkel

a shortcut in front of home pro building chao fa west to old esso station chaofa east, can releave the circle also

These 3 will solve trafficjams , and not leading all south phuket traffic to 1 point

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[Valentine]

An underpass from Wichit to Chao Fa West makes the most sense to me plus shaving off the corners giving more room for the left turners. When done there would be no need for those coming from Patak to East having to turn left to West & then U turn which alone slows down traffic movement especially when a large bus has to do it.

[stevenl]

logicaly there is only 1 possibility, and thats a tunnel between rawai road and chao faa west, cause these are the only roads that arrive in 2 lanes

make the road better between kata mountain and rawai wichit road and make it 1 way, so all traffic from patong karon kata, that has to go rawai dont need to pass the cirkel

a shortcut in front of home pro building chao fa west to old esso station chaofa east, can releave the circle also

These 3 will solve trafficjams , and not leading all south phuket traffic to 1 point

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Also Chao Fa East and Kata/Karaon arrive in 2 lanes.

Anybody who is ever at the pier in the mornings will see the real cause: traffic from Rawai, mainly from the school. High season is different though, will be a disaster. But at the moment: traffic jam between 07.30 and 08.15, after that takes maximum 5 minutes.

[madmitch]

Chalong Circle is a pain but can you imagine the chaos if they closed two of the major arteries for a year or more to build an underpass?

Keep it as it is!

[andreandre]

Chalong Circle is a pain but can you imagine the chaos if they closed two of the major arteries for a year or more to build an underpass?

Keep it as it is!

And if the trend of more and more vehicals continues [as it will] what will happen in two years or so if pro active measures aren't taken ASAP?

In a couple of years that intersection will be severely gridlocked most of the day, not just at peaktimes/high season...Then what?

The disruptions now will pale into insignificance the longer they leave it.

[stevenl]

Chalong Circle is a pain but can you imagine the chaos if they closed two of the major arteries for a year or more to build an underpass?

Keep it as it is!

And if the trend of more and more vehicals continues [as it will] what will happen in two years or so if pro active measures aren't taken ASAP?

In a couple of years that intersection will be severely gridlocked most of the day, not just at peaktimes/high season...Then what?

The disruptions now will pale into insignificance the longer they leave it.

I'm afraid you're right there.

[Carioca]

Sorry mates, all your ideas are good, but you have forgotten that any solution must be run by the tuk-tuk yuck-yucks in Kata-Karon-Patong-BangTao to make sure it doesn't affect their business lest they block that road also.

[stevenl]

Sorry mates, all your ideas are good, but you have forgotten that any solution must be run by the tuk-tuk yuck-yucks in Kata-Karon-Patong-BangTao to make sure it doesn't affect their business lest they block that road also.

Are you posting in the wrong thread or simply want your disdain for the tuktuk drivers known everywhere?

[IrishIvan]

Dredge the Rawaii pier. Then a lot of the dive boats can use that area instead of Chalong pier. Thus freeing up the circle in the morning and evening

Edited July 11, 2013 by IrishIvan

[stevenl]

Dredge the Rawaii pier. Then a lot of the dive boats can use that area instead of Chalong pier. Thus freeing up the circle in the morning and evening

Everybody would still pass by the circle on their way to Rawai.

[IrishIvan]

They would soon figure out the short cut past the stunt show. The stunt show road can easily be widened.

Also mini busses from kata can go the back way thru the jungle

[stevenl]

They would soon figure out the short cut past the stunt show. The stunt show road can easily be widened.

Also mini busses from kata can go the back way thru the jungle

Yes, and make all users of that coastal road happy with double the amount of traffic. The road behind the stunt show would need a new surface first, very bad in many places. And how about parking there for people going diving, loading, etc. That pier is totally unsuitable for this without some major investments, also in the local infrastructure. The land next door is not available, there has bene lots of quibbling about that already. So all in all I don't see this as a viable solution.

But yes, would elivate Chalong circle traffic a bit.

Edited July 11, 2013 by stevenl

[bearpolar]

The best way to fix all our problems would be to have a road built from chaofa east on top the water on chalong bay right up to rawai(just after the circle). Would make a nice scenery that could be used by movies quite a lot

[IrishIvan]

They would soon figure out the short cut past the stunt show. The stunt show road can easily be widened.

Also mini busses from kata can go the back way thru the jungle

Yes, and make all users of that coastal road happy with double the amount of traffic. The road behind the stunt show would need a new surface first, very bad in many places. And how about parking there for people going diving, loading, etc. That pier is totally unsuitable for this without some major investments, also in the local infrastructure. The land next door is not available, there has bene lots of quibbling about that already. So all in all I don't see this as a viable solution.

But yes, would elivate Chalong circle traffic a bit.

I think it would be cheaper than what they are proposing at chalong circle. Plus the impact on the traffic would be a lot less

[stevenl]

They would soon figure out the short cut past the stunt show. The stunt show road can easily be widened.

Also mini busses from kata can go the back way thru the jungle

Yes, and make all users of that coastal road happy with double the amount of traffic. The road behind the stunt show would need a new surface first, very bad in many places. And how about parking there for people going diving, loading, etc. That pier is totally unsuitable for this without some major investments, also in the local infrastructure. The land next door is not available, there has bene lots of quibbling about that already. So all in all I don't see this as a viable solution.

But yes, would elivate Chalong circle traffic a bit.

I think it would be cheaper than what they are proposing at chalong circle. Plus the impact on the traffic would be a lot less

Maybe cheaper, correction, probably cheaper. But it would not solve the problem, Chalong circle would still need to be addressed, the impact of your solution to the problem is minimal.