Yep.the big fatties need padding to tackle.They have all the aerobic fitness of a fat puppy and are as hard as Jelly.

In rugby Union and League, you can still (almost) get away with a high shot.Not in American Football though.All you do is smack into a helmut....what's the point in that??The joy of the cheap shot is gone.....

If I had wantedt o go to a 4 hour long Chess match, I would buy a DVD of Spasky playing.Why does you game take an eternity to play, with more rules than I got brain cells...just!

C'mon you North American wed wetting types.Prove me wrong.

Rugby League Hits

Above is some of the smaller hits I could find.It takes a bit to download.

Yep.the big fatties need padding to tackle.They have all the aerobic fitness of a fat puppy and are as hard as Jelly.

In rugby Union and League, you can still (almost) get away with a high shot.Not in American Football though.All you do is smack into a helmut....what's the point in that??The joy of the cheap shot is gone.....

If I had wantedt o go to a 4 hour long Chess match, I would buy a DVD of Spasky playing.Why does you game take an eternity to play, with more rules than I got brain cells...just!

C'mon you North American wed wetting types.Prove me wrong.

Rugby League Hits

Above is some of the smaller hits I could find.It takes a bit to download.

i agree totally - excellent post!! though i am waiting for some uncle sam guided comments to come your way!!

Helmet-to-helmet collisions on a football field register about 100 Gs, according to UPMC research, about 1.5 times as many as the 60 to 70 Gs exerted in a car crash on a person wearing a seat belt and traveling about 35 mph.

But shots to the head can be dangerous, even deadly, especially over time.

Ex-Steeler Terry Long died June 7 from a brain inflammation that resulted, in part, from repeated blows to the head during his eight-year NFL playing career, Allegheny County Coroner Cyril Wecht said Tuesday.

As many as 40 high school athletes nationwide have died during the past several years from repeated concussions, said neuropsychologist Michael Collins, assistant director of UPMC's Sports Medicine Concussion Program.

Deaths are rare, but other problems aren't, Collins said.

Concussions result from blows to the head or upper body, jostling the brain inside the skull -- much like an egg yolk inside its shell. The injury can cause loss of consciousness, disorientation, confusion, dizziness and headaches. Not treated properly, concussions -- especially repetitive concussions -- can lead to prolonged memory loss and slowed mental processing.

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American football is so violent, even with protective gear, that players from the high school level all the way up to the pros die on occasion. Does rugby get more brutal than that?

NFL's Hardest Hits

Not unusual at all to see players flying 5 feet up through the air like spinning tops.

Some average player sizes from a single team. These guys are athletic or they'd never make it in the pros.

Weight Height Player Position

350 (159 kg) 6-7 (201 cm) Stacy Andrews OT

340 (154 kg) 6-4 (193 cm) Bobbie Williams G

340 (154 kg) 6-5 (196 cm) Willie Anderson OT

337 (153 kg) 6-6 (198 cm) Adam Kieft OT

320 (145 kg) 6-2 (188 cm) Shaun Smith DT

320 (145 kg) 6-6 (198 cm) Scott Kooistra G-OT

315 (143 kg) 6-6 (198 cm) Belton Johnson OT

310 (143 kg) 6-3 (191 cm) Kyle Takavitz G

311 (141 kg) 6-6 (198 cm) Steven Vieira G

310 (141 kg) 6-6 (198 cm) Reece Hicks OT

305 (138 kg) 6-4 (193 cm) Rich Braham C

305 (138 kg) 6-4 (193 cm) Ben Wilkerson C

304 (138 kg) 6-4 (193 cm) Bryan Robinson DT

303 (137 kg) 6-1 (185 cm) Langston Moore DT

302 (137 kg) 6-4 (193 cm) Eric Ghiaciuc C-G

302 (137 kg) 6-5 (196 cm) Matthias Askew DT

300 (136 kg) 6-5 (196 cm) Levi Jones OT

300 (136 kg) 6-3 (191 cm) Larry Moore G-C

300 (136 kg) 6-5 (196 cm) Pete Lougheed OT

300 (136 kg) 6-3 (191 cm) Dan Lynch G

410 (186 kg.) Aaron Gibson - Heaviest current player

6-9 (206 cm) Jonathan Ogden - Tallest current player

7-7 (231 cm) Bob Bobinghanger - Tallest player ever

The shear size and weight of average NFL players makes a huge difference at impact, especially when they're moving at full speed. Broken arms, fingers, legs, dislocated shoulders, torn rotator cuffs, blown out knees, busted ribs, concussions, etc., are common injuries week in and week out during any given season.

Pussies?

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Pussies?

Not to mention a lot of those guys (receivers, tail-backs, running backs, safeties, ect) are also a step short of being world-class sprinters.

I personally don't like American football because of the way the game is played. I'd rather watch Canadian football. If they used Canadian rules in American football, it would make for a much more exciting game.

But then, I'd rather watch an ordinary, meaningless American football game, than a championship soccer game

Then again, there's lots more excitement watching paint dry, or grass grow, than your usual soccer game.

Couldn't Jonah Lomu in his prime run 100M in around the 13 second mark?

I fully agree. American Football and all that padding is for big girls blouses!

Couldn't Jonah Lomu in his prime run 100M in around the 13 second mark?

I fully agree. American Football and all that padding is for big girls blouses!

He could run it under 11 seconds.His 0 - full-tit in three strides is what made him dangerous though.

I concur. In comparison to Rugby, American SOCCER players are a bunch of Girlies. I bet when they take off their padding and their Bubble Wrap, they're about 7 stone

American football players are just a bunch of pussy fat boys. And i am still waiting for an explanation on why the need for a defensive team an attacking team and a kicking team and a wipe your ass team. Are they too stupid that they cant perform more than one task at a time?

American football players are just a bunch of pussy fat boys. And i am still waiting for an explanation on why the need for a defensive team an attacking team and a kicking team and a wipe your ass team. Are they too stupid that they cant perform more than one task at a time?

Just found a picture of the new york oiler cowboy yee haaas

Even watching NZ play rugby is more fun than watching a game of american fatball

Don't get me started on that NH showcase called the Heineken Cup...you know the one where you have to buy all the SH rejects to make up the numbers.

Well, I did provide some overwhelming facts and other supporting evidence to support the claim that American football is a much more intense and violent game than the game of rugsbie played by kids in other parts of the world. This should have been sufficient enough to illicit concessions from guys who have never seeen true athletes.

But I'm afraid that for some guys out there who would like to portray themselves as macho they just don't want to admit that they grew up playing with a bunch of girls.

Boys, take the loss of this argument on the chin like good boys and girls. There's really no need to cry.

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But I'm afraid that for some guys out there who would like to portray themselves as macho they just don't want to admit that they grew up playing with a bunch of girls.

But even them Girly Rugby players are tougher than American Football Players

Do rugsbie players participants have to cut their fingernails? Or are they allowed to scratch, too.

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Oi, will you look at those jelly rolls. I think she pulling the girl's hair. Ouch.

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Do American players cut their nails...........................Oh no, they musn't do, that's why they wear gloves. It protects them from breaking their nails and also from their opponents getting scratched and hurt and running off the field in floods of tears

American football players never cry, even when injured. They'll still play with broken limbs and dislocated shoulders. "Tape me up, coach, and send me back out." Rain or snow, 100 degree (38 C) heat or minus 13 degree (-25 C) cold, the game is still played. Is rugsbie played if the sun isn't shining?

1967 NFL 'Ice Bowl' Championship. Green Bay Packers vs. Dallas Cowboys. Game time temperature: -13 F (-25 C). Windchill factor: -46 F (-43 C). Playing surface conditions: Solid ice.

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Those pictures of the fat birds are indeed rugby players, they wanted to be american football players, but they just werent fat enough, anyway in the uk there just arent enough fat women to make up 2 american football teams

I do know however that the uk makes american football uniforms, infact it is a Bristol company called cammeron ballons that make them

American football players never cry, even when injured. They'll still play with broken limbs and dislocated shoulders. "Tape me up, coach, and send me back out." Rain or snow, 100 degree (38 C) heat or minus 15 degree (-26 C) cold, the game is still played. Is rugsbie played if the sun isn't shining?

Stand up tip i cant hear you properly, now i tell you i havent heard so much arse in all my time. In the uk rugby is only played between around October and April, so the worst months. I have been on a pitch in January where it was so cold the studs wouldnt go into the pitch because it was frozen. Did we still play? Of course we <deleted> did.

Do rugby players play with injuries? Well i certainly used too, i have played with a broken nose, a cut above my eye and a broken collar bone to name a few. Obviously not all at the same time. And this was only county level rugby i was playing.

Your american boys are just a fat bunch of wussies that cant play rugby, just look at your national team to see how well you do. If you lot took off the padding all you have is pudding

Do you have world series of rugby in the usa? You know the world series where the only teams that take part are american Someone needs to explain to you boys the meaning of world, i think

Nice one Daleyboy

Talking about toughies though. The baddest, meanest toughies i have ever come across are the Field Gun Crews. Man, they are crazy Mother fokkers

Rugby by far is more violent than yank football, what makes matters worse some of those lads are completely mental. (kicked in the head too many times I surmise)

However that being said I certainly wouldnt want to fk with any of those yanks either even in their girly pads.

American football players never cry, even when injured. They'll still play with broken limbs and dislocated shoulders. "Tape me up, coach, and send me back out." Rain or snow, 100 degree (38 C) heat or minus 15 degree (-26 C) cold, the game is still played. Is rugsbie played if the sun isn't shining?

Stand up tip i cant hear you properly, now i tell you i havent heard so much arse in all my time. In the uk rugby is only played between around October and April, so the worst months. I have been on a pitch in January where it was so cold the studs wouldnt go into the pitch because it was frozen. Did we still play? Of course we <deleted> did.

But you guys only play half a game. Two quarters, right?

Do rugby players play with injuries? Well i certainly used too, i have played with a broken nose, a cut above my eye and a broken collar bone to name a few. Obviously not all at the same time.

That's the difference. If more than a cut on one finger and you're in hospital.

Your american boys are just a fat bunch of wussies that cant play rugby, just look at your national team to see how well you do.

Can't find enough good athletes to play rugsbie in the U.S. The good ones all signed up for the real man's sport, American football.

Do you have world series of rugby in the usa? You know the world series where the only teams that take part are american Someone needs to explain to you boys the meaning of world, i think

The World Football League. Most players are from the U.S., though, because there aren't enough, as Boonie would say, Euroweenies qualified to play.

Oh, and don't come to an American football game as a spectator. Someone might accidentally pour a beer on your head and send you to the boy's locker room. At least you could take the piss outta the urinal.

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American football players never cry, even when injured. They'll still play with broken limbs and dislocated shoulders. "Tape me up, coach, and send me back out." Rain or snow, 100 degree (38 C) heat or minus 15 degree (-26 C) cold, the game is still played. Is rugsbie played if the sun isn't shining?

Stand up tip i cant hear you properly, now i tell you i havent heard so much arse in all my time. In the uk rugby is only played between around October and April, so the worst months. I have been on a pitch in January where it was so cold the studs wouldnt go into the pitch because it was frozen. Did we still play? Of course we <deleted> did.

But you guys only play half a game. Two quarters, right?

Do rugby players play with injuries? Well i certainly used too, i have played with a broken nose, a cut above my eye and a broken collar bone to name a few. Obviously not all at the same time.

That's the difference. If more than a cut on one finger and you're in hospital.

Your american boys are just a fat bunch of wussies that cant play rugby, just look at your national team to see how well you do.

Can't find enough good athletes to play rugsbie in the U.S. The good ones all signed up for the real man's sport, American football.

Do you have world series of rugby in the usa? You know the world series where the only teams that take part are american Someone needs to explain to you boys the meaning of world, i think

The World Football League. Most players are from the U.S., though, because there aren't enough, as Boonie would say, Euroweenies qualified to play.

Oh, and don't come to an American football game as a spectator. Someone might accidentally pour a beer on your head and send you to the boy's locker room. At least you could take the piss outta the urinal.

nice try Tippaporn , but no cigar.

You want to know about tough?I know of heaps of people that have played on with broken bones, but the best story is about a Kiwi guy called Buck Shelford.Probably about 15 years ago.

He was kicked in the groin(No cup protection..) by a French player 5 mins into the game.He finally came off the field after playing for 60 mins (Games go on for 80 mins...in case you didn't know. )

His scrotum was ripped open .

BTW, that was amature rugby...non-professional at the time.They played for the love of the game.

nice try Tippaporn , but no cigar.

Jeez, chuch, I'm fighting you, Dale, mrbojangles, markuk, the Prof - all by my lonesome. And I still have one hand tied behind my back.

Not quite a cigar, but close.

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His scrotum was ripped open .

BTW, that was amature rugby...non-professional at the time.They played for the love of the game.

Exactly, whats a cup? For putting tea in, i think. Us rugby players have balls so big you couldnt get them in a cup

Have you ever played with a broken bone tip? When i broke my collar bone i carried on and played the last 20 minutes before having my shirt cut off me because i could lift my arm, when they x rayed me i was told i had snapped my collar bone in 3 seperate places, and to this day i still have problems on cold days with my shoulder. BTW this all happened when i was 16.

The split over my eye was as a result of getting a boot in the face for lying on the worng side, that was only 3 stiches, off had it stiched then back on.

The only injury that took me out of the game completely was my broken nose, and that was because i couldnt see <deleted> all for the blood in my eyes.

As for me dishing out injuries, well lets just say there was more than the odd flying arm out the back of the scrum and later when i moved to second row te odd finger up the opposition hookers nose

Pad me up any tme and i would get on the pitch with any of those pussies. They have <deleted> shoulders like half the cast members from dallas or dynasty

"If I had a choice, I'd sooner go one-on-one with a grizzly bear. I pray that I can get up every time Butkus hits me."

former NFL running back MacArthur Lane

He was a grunting, snarling, snorting defensive machine, dedicated to the creation of football mayhem and the destruction of offensive game plans. Dick Butkus' road to the Hall of Fame was paved with blood, sweat, pain -- and the intense anger that coursed through the veins of the most celebrated middle linebackers.

The 6-3, 245-pound Butkus served as the Chicago Bears defensive leader and enforcer from 1965 to '73, when the almost-constant physical pounding finally took its toll on a body that had been pushed to full throttle on every play. He was both loved and hated for the mean, take-no-prisoners style he brought to the field, but his success was fueled by a consuming drive to be the best and a relentless dedication to his profession.

The burly, blue-collar Butkus combined surprising speed with a fearsome strength that he used to fight off powerful blockers. A ballcarrier who fell into the grasp of his long, thick arms could expect to be squeezed into helpless submission. Other runners and offensive linemen were constantly amazed by the ferocity of his hits. Butkus could run down ballcarriers from sideline-to-sideline, cover receivers out of the backfield and make the right calls for coach George Halas' complicated defense.

Forced retirement due to blown out knees after seven seasons.

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NFL Legend Dan Hampton

Hall of Fame defensive lineman Dan Hampton was a menacing, yet versatile, defender, who served 12 seasons defending the line of scrimmage for the Chicago Bears.

Hampton was a first-round draft pick of the Chicago Bears in 1979. An outstanding and versatile defensive lineman, Hampton would play 12 seasons with the Bears. Six times he earned first- or second-team All-Pro honors as either a defensive tackle or defensive end.

Nicknamed “Danimal” for his ferocious style of play, Hampton persevered through 10 knee surgeries and numerous other injuries as he became recognized as one of the game’s most dedicated players.

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Modern day gladiators.

Frank Gifford: "Pro Football is like nuclear warfare. There are no winners, only survivors."

Jack "The Assassin" Tatum, former Raiders defensive back: "I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault."

Dick Butkus: "I wouldn't ever set out to hurt anyone deliberately unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something."

Arnold Mandell: "Football is not a game but a religion, a metaphysical island of fundamental truth in a highly verbalized, disguised society, a throwback of 30,000 generations of anthropological time."

Doug Plank: "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."

Reggie Williams, when asked his greatest strengths as a football player : "Speed, strength, and the inability to register pain immediately."

Duffy Daugherty: "Football isn't a contact sport, it's a collision sport. Rugby is a contact sport."

Ray Lewis: "Pain is only temporary, no matter how long it lasts."

Chad Bratzke, explaining life in the NFL: "The pads don't keep you from getting hurt. They just keep you from getting killed."

How about Jack Tatum, safety for the Raiders in the 70's? Every game people speculated how many offensive players he would tackle unconscious. Believe he was below 6ft but mean as ever.

Sorry, already mentioned by Tippaporn.

Anyway I think football players date prettier girls than rugby players

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How about Jack Tatum, safety for the Raiders in the 70's? Every game people speculated how many offensive players he would tackle unconscious. Believe he was below 6ft but mean as ever.

Not a guy you'd want to encounter on a football field. Guys like Dick Butkus, Mike Singletary, Lawerence Taylor, Reggie White, Deacon Jones, Gino Marchetti, Bob Lily inspired outright fear amongst opposing players.

Anyway I think football players date prettier girls than rugby players

And people wonder why sheep are preferrable?

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They both hate astroturf.

Oh....... get a GRIP you lot!!!!!!!!!!!

Who's on first base, who's on second base?

WHO SAID THAT?????

nothing to do with football, mind you......