taninthai Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 quote from op If no repay she will go to prison. lawyer told me,........My advice dont ever ever ever use that lawyer again ,give the bike back and forget about it and try to learn from your mistake........i take it she is your ex girlfriend now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poanoi Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Have to agree with @taninthai here, are you paying the lawyer to listen to this shit ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stoneyboy Posted August 4, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 4, 2013 Never sign anything in your girlfriend's / wife's name. No need! I bought my first motorcycle in my own name 4 years ago on a tourist Visa Sent from my GT-I9500 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Sad outlook in life when you can't trust the woman closest to you,ok G/F I can understand to a degree,but surely if your married and still can't trust your wife enough to put material goods in her name then the relationship doesn't have much going for it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMSinBangkok Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 You have a point. My advice would be to know the girl and live with her for at least, let's say, 3 years before you show her that kind of trust... Sent from my GT-I9500 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brfsa2 Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Ask her how much she wants for the green book, then work out if it's worth paying it or not. Agree, just ask "how much money" she wants to give you green-book and transfer to your name. if reasonable money, they pay her otherwise just give her the bike IN PIECES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrry Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I think you would be very foolish to so obviously damage her motor bike. You could face a Criminal Damage charge which could get you locked up for a considerable time until you raised bail and then unable to leave the country for a couple of years while it drags through court. If you signed a hire purchase agreement you may have to pay for it even if she recovers the bike. In this case tell the finance company you are not paying and they can reposess the bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf5370 Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Lot of advice here to damage the bike - be careful following such advice as legally its her bike and thus damaging it is malicious damage. If reprisal is the game, then better to be simply negligent (leaving the key in it at the local market). However, I still feel that you have a negotiating position (the loan versus the bike - or even sell and split the money). I had a friend in the UK that made such an agreement with his ex - he then promptly sold his car to a mate for a quid - 50p each (though he was forced to pay more later in court as it was an obvious ploy - but still a lot less than it was worth). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooloomooloo Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I wouldn't have the energy for making trouble. Hand over the bike and forget it. You never did state what your ex-girlfriend wants out of this, anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff2258 Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 The bike is belong to her even if you have the bike, key and the registration book with you. As for the loan she have to pay back to you since you have a contract signed. She can always tell the police that the bike is a gift from you and it is hers now. Lawyer will tell you that you have a chance so that they are hired but if lost the case you still need to pay the lawyer fee and the lawyer will tell you it is the judge decision not his. End of the day you will be a bigger sucker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberduck Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 (edited) I think you're screwed- she's the legal owner- whether it was purchased with your money makes no difference- I believe even if you had a separate contract outlining your agreement you'd still have no chance, but I'd imagine you don't. At least it wasn't a Panigale. Having the green book does not automatically make her the owner when she cannot prove that she has fully paid the bike or prove HOW she got it, yes it used to be that easy but not anymore. Foreigners are not screwed that easy anymore as they used to be and protected more then before and win more lawsuits then a while ago, TS has paid for the bike and he can prove it so he does have a point here, first of all he should report this case of blackmail to the police ofcourse and perhaps have a lawyer involved. Edited August 4, 2013 by rubberduck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooloomooloo Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 She can always tell the police that the bike is a gift from you and it is hers now. I've read this thread from start to finish and, reading between the lines, the bike was purchased for the ex-girlfriend's sole use. There's nothing to suggest that the bike was bought by the OP for his ownership, with the OP's cash, but in the ex-girlfriend's name. The loan agreement speaks volumes. Up to the OP, but he's on to a loser if he wants to take matters further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poanoi Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 (edited) Having the green book automatically makes her the owner in the court of law, period. Dont repeat this nonsense and make him piss away more money than the scooter is worth, least of all to a thai lawyer. In contrast to yourself, i have first hand experience with the crooks Edited August 4, 2013 by poanoi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberduck Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 She can always tell the police that the bike is a gift from you and it is hers now. I've read this thread from start to finish and, reading between the lines, the bike was purchased for the ex-girlfriend's sole use. There's nothing to suggest that the bike was bought by the OP for his ownership, with the OP's cash, but in the ex-girlfriend's name. The loan agreement speaks volumes. Up to the OP, but he's on to a loser if he wants to take matters further. Normally if you buy your girlfriend a moped you have her name written on the bill for warranty etc. and not your own name because this would make her losing the right for warranty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nikster Posted August 4, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 4, 2013 Write it off & give her the bike. Leave the revenge to karma. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee99 Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 (edited) Never sign anything in your girlfriend's / wife's name. No need! I bought my first motorcycle in my own name 4 years ago on a tourist Visa Sent from my GT-I9500 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Sad outlook in life when you can't trust the woman closest to you,ok G/F I can understand to a degree,but surely if your married and still can't trust your wife enough to put material goods in her name then the relationship doesn't have much going for it.It's not about trust. It's about protecting what one has worked hard for. I will only sign What i am willing to lose. kNo one knows the future and people change some good some bad. Edited August 4, 2013 by yankee99 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrain Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Wow, some fanciful stories and advise here. I'm waiting for that old chestnut "she'll have you shot you know!"Why would she? She only needs the police to go with her. In Thai law the name in the registration book is the owner, be it car or bike.Sent from my i-mobile i-STYLE Q6 But she could have him shot...if she wanted to. That's true or she could get back together with him and cut his cock off and feed it to the ducks Sent from my i-mobile i-STYLE Q6 How you know she has ducks ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishinsiam Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I have always said as a foreigner I will never buy anything in Thailand I am not prepared to walk away from. Sent from my GT-I9505 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatcharanan Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I think you're screwed- she's the legal owner- whether it was purchased with your money makes no difference- I believe even if you had a separate contract outlining your agreement you'd still have no chance, but I'd imagine you don't. At least it wasn't a Panigale. Having the green book does not automatically make her the owner when she cannot prove that she has fully paid the bike or prove HOW she got it, yes it used to be that easy but not anymore. You're talking nonsense. If the green book is in her name then legally it's hers........end of. As for all the posts recommending damaging the bike, dumping the oil etc................jeeeez...........get a life will ya? Just be grateful that its not a high end bike or car and lesson learnt for the future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I have always said as a foreigner I will never buy anything in Thailand I am not prepared to walk away from. Sent from my GT-I9505 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app But in case of cars / bikes ect you CAN get it in your name so your "wise" advice does not apply. Actually that advice starts to get boring after reading it a million times while things can be done to safeguard things. In this case it was just stupid to get it in her name, as ut obviously was meant for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puukao Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I am sure when you gave her the bike via green book you loved her and wanted to make her life full with happiness. she is likely young at age and full of hope; however, now you feel scorned and seek farang revenge. ah, love...... fast forward 5-years: My house is in my Thai wife's name and she wants a divorce!!! Help!! I kid, I kid.....just relax, it's only money, and let this fine soul enjoy such great materialistic possessions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post poanoi Posted August 4, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 4, 2013 Here's an idea, you could walk the enlightened way of the holy monk Drukpa Kunley, and turn her into a good spirit. ! Drukpa Kunley was a great master of Mahamudra in the Buddhist tradition. He is known for his sex rituals and crazy of enlightnening of women. Because of this he is also known as "The Saint of 5,000 Women". After riding nearly every wife, sister and daughter in the land, Kunley eventually rode into Buddhist mythology itself. He is said to do battle with all sorts of demons and evil spirits, most of them female. In one Bhutanese legend, he defeats a demoness by beating her in the face with his penis, and then gags her with it. After she is defeated, he transforms her into a good spirit "through divine sexual play." 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberduck Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I think you're screwed- she's the legal owner- whether it was purchased with your money makes no difference- I believe even if you had a separate contract outlining your agreement you'd still have no chance, but I'd imagine you don't. At least it wasn't a Panigale. Having the green book does not automatically make her the owner when she cannot prove that she has fully paid the bike or prove HOW she got it, yes it used to be that easy but not anymore. You're talking nonsense. If the green book is in her name then legally it's hers........end of. As for all the posts recommending damaging the bike, dumping the oil etc................jeeeez...........get a life will ya? Just be grateful that its not a high end bike or car and lesson learnt for the future. Not per definition, IF it becomes a court case they do want to know how she'd got it and if she obtained it legally. Basically the same as with happens with trouble over house/land ownerships. If she lose they can easily make her name in the green book invalid, seen this happen before only difference that was a big bike, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharp Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Bikerjoy!!! Not anymore ...right. Sorry bud let go its hers ... Sent from my iPad using ThaiVisa app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loptr Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Is a used Yamaha Spark worth the headache and the ramifications of bad karma down the road? Me tinks not. Let it go, life is too short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB87 Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Run away! She will make you suffer as an alligator makes a small fluffy dog suffer who has gone for a swim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonaldBattles Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 You and all the other people who put vehicles and houses in the name of a Thai woman will never learn. Your only hope is to try to pay her to transfer to your name. Your lawyer can't help you. Next time when you do this think about it as a gift to the woman as this can be what it is. Further if you allow a Thai person to rent a living quarters in their name and they decide you can't enter any more the landlord is powerless to cut the lock and allow you to enter unless the rent is not paid. AMAZING HOW WE NEVER LEARN! I have been down this road with the rental contract once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SantiSuk Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Easy for me to say, but anger is a wasted and counterproductive emotion where business dealings are concerned (it's no longer personal). Ignore the 'wreck the bike brigade' they're all thinking with their Chang heads on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff2258 Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I think you're screwed- she's the legal owner- whether it was purchased with your money makes no difference- I believe even if you had a separate contract outlining your agreement you'd still have no chance, but I'd imagine you don't. At least it wasn't a Panigale. Having the green book does not automatically make her the owner when she cannot prove that she has fully paid the bike or prove HOW she got it, yes it used to be that easy but not anymore. You're talking nonsense. If the green book is in her name then legally it's hers........end of. As for all the posts recommending damaging the bike, dumping the oil etc................jeeeez...........get a life will ya? Just be grateful that its not a high end bike or car and lesson learnt for the future. Yes, Rubber duck please don't talk nonsense. Use common sense, how can the bike not hers if the green book is in her name? Tell us one thing, can she have got the bike from her boyfriend who willing to give her anything she wants when they are together? When the relationship went sour he wants all back and said he paid for that? Hahaha want to have side bet see who will be the winner??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Two options:- talk to her and negotiate a price for which you buy the bike; legally she is the owner- write-off the bike and get on with your life; learn a lesson of the whole happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 (edited) I think you're screwed- she's the legal owner- whether it was purchased with your money makes no difference- I believe even if you had a separate contract outlining your agreement you'd still have no chance, but I'd imagine you don't. At least it wasn't a Panigale. Agreed, don't waste the effort....move on..next .! Edited August 5, 2013 by Garry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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