Hi everybody, i've a question.

I'm european under 50 and my girlfriend is not Thai, but she has a business in LOS and of course a Non-B visa + WP.

Is it possible for me to apply for a Non-O visa based on my relationship with her or I need to marry her or is it impossible for me to get this kind of visa based on this relationship, keeping on with the usual tourist visa?

Thanks in advance.

You will not get a visa based on your current relationship.

The experts will be along soon and, I am sure , will set out the options which may be available to you.

Thanks, i just need to know what kind of options i could have - in addition to tourist visas or ed visas - based on the relationship with a person who runs a proper business in LOS.

My advise -----forget about obtaining any visa based on your current relationship. It will not happen ! Sorry

I'd just point out that the relationship is with somebody who lives in Thailand and has a business, with the related visa and WP.

And I could also marry her, in case the marriage can make me eligible to a Non-O visa.

Looking forward to more infos, thanks.

Your type of relationship with the holder of a non-B visa does not entitle you to a special type of visa based on that relationship.

You do not say how long you plan to stay in Thailand but your comment "keeping on with the usual tourist visa" seems to indicate that it is for the long term. If this is the case you may find it useful to sign up for a Thai language course and get 90-day extensions of stay on this basis. Alternatively, if your friends needs you to work in her company, get a work permit and then get extensions of stay for employment.

Of course i stay for long term....And what about if i'll marry her? How is the usual visa situation of a non working married partner of an expat working and living in LOS? What kind of visa has usually a foreign wife or husband of an expat who lives and works in LOS?

Thanks in advance

The foreign spouse of a foreigner who has an extension of stay for the reason of employment can apply for a so-called dependent extension under paragraph 2.20 of

Thai Police Order 777/2551 basis for extension of stay

Immigration Bureau Order 305/2551 documents for extension of stay

The Wife would have to have 12 month extensions from Immigration.

A Non Imm B Visa would not be enough.

Thanks Maestro and Lite Beer for your kind replies.

So, if I’m not wrong, firstly I have to marry her and secondly she must have a 12 month extension of stay of her Non-B visa, based on her work permit.

Said that, and met these 2 requirements, what kind of visa I would have to apply in order to receive later the 12 month dependent extension/permission of stay?

Thanks again.

Best you research the the requirements associated with a legal marriage in Thailand before thinking about visas based on a marriage that might occur in the future !

You would apply for a non immigrant O visa on the basis of marriage proof and copy of spouse passport with extension of stay.

Thanks Lopburi for the precise reply.

@jrtmedic, if we'll decide to marry it won't be in Thailand and a marriage certificate issued abroad is legal and valid all over the world - and in LOS too

Thanks again.

"@jrtmedic, if we'll decide to marry it won't be in Thailand and a marriage certificate issued abroad is legal and valid all over the world - and in LOS too "

You may be right ! but until you have taken some necessary steps your marriage documentation will not be not be recognised in Thailand !

"You may be right ! but until you have taken some necessary steps your marriage documentation will not be not be recognised in Thailand"

So, of what kind of steps are you talking about?

Thanks

This might give you an idea:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/647221-registration-of-foreign-marriage-in-thailand/

Until you are over 50 , you are not permitted to live in Thailand full time unless you have a legitimate job , work permit and appropriate working visa .

For the time being you will have to continue to work in your own country or have a 1year multiple entry visa .

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Thanks Lite Beer, I read the link you posted even if that guy is married to a Thai woman.

It won't be my case, my gf is NOT Thai.

Anyway it looks that i can do everything (translation+verification+Non-O visa) at the Thai embassy/consulate in my own country. Or am I wrong?

@Toscano, if you read this thread from the start it seems you are wrong.

If you are studying an approved course for longer than ~8 months, you could go after non-ED. Some examples are university, thai language school, monestary, diving, cooking, etc.

You'd probably have to get a multiple entry from your home hountry thai [honorary] consulate as neighboring countries thai consulant seem to be only allowing single entry for the ed category.

"...the 2nd best time to plant a tree is today." Sent from ThaiVisa app (Galaxy Note 2).

I'm new. Where is LOS?

A marriage just to adhere to Thai immigration rules sounds all wrong to me. I trust that there are more valid reasons. Are you saying if that you could find a loophole there would be no nuptials? What does your lady think about this?

I'm new.  Where is LOS?

L.O.S. = Land of Smiles

"...the 2nd best time to plant a tree is today." Sent from ThaiVisa app (Galaxy Note 2).

Thanks Lite Beer, I read the link you posted even if that guy is married to a Thai woman.

It won't be my case, my gf is NOT Thai.

Anyway it looks that i can do everything (translation+verification+Non-O visa) at the Thai embassy/consulate in my own country. Or am I wrong?

@Toscano, if you read this thread from the start it seems you are wrong.

Oooops.

Again if your Wife has a 12 month extension of stay from Immigration you can get the same extension as her dependant.

You have to get married though.

2.20 In the case of a family

member of an alien who has been permitted temporary

stay under clauses 2.1, 2.2, 2.3, 2.5, 2.6,2.7, 2.10, 2.12, 2.13,2.4, 2.15, 2.16, 2.17,

2.21, 2.22,2.26,6.29 of this Order (applicable only to parents, spouse, child, adopted child or child of

his/her spouse):

Permission will be

granted for a period of

not more than 1 year at a time.

(1) The alien has obtained a temporary visa (NON-IM);

(2) Proof of family relationship;

(3) In the case of a spouse, the marital relationship shall be de

jure (legitimate) and de facto; or

(4) In the case of a child, adopted child or child of his/her spouse, the said person must not be married, must be living with the family, and must be less than 20 years of age; or

(5) In the case of a parent, the said person shall be 50 years of age or over.

Thanks Lite Beer for the clarification

Just apply for your own visa.