RtotheC Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 This is a non-issue. Thai's don't even know who Hitler is, let alone Jim Crow or the black face minstrel shows. It is an advertisement for a chocolate donut and it worked for them. It wasn't racist until people starting making it racist. Nobody came out and said "I hate black people" or "white power" or any other of that nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyaslimit Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Whatever, I like the lips though sent by skyaslimit using thaivisa forum mobile app. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccarty Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Black is beautiful! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lifeincnx Posted August 31, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2013 For starters, pretty much EVERY culture/race is racist to some degree, INCLUDING those that like to scream RACIST the most at every opportunity. And as MOST of you should already know, "white skin" in SEA is NOT so much of a racist matter as it is a SOCIAL CLASS matter. The "whiter" your skin, the higher up on the "social status" scale you may be. This dates back to ancient history long before "white men" ever came to Asia. And as MOST of you should already know as well, in Thailand when 2 people meet for the first time, the "whiteness" of the skin (as well as attire, make-up, jewelry, etc) help determine who is "higher" on that social scale and who should be wai-ing first and lowest. That is the reason so many Thais (primarily women it seems) are so keen on having "white" skin, so that they can appear to be of a higher social status than they really are. Dunkin Donuts biggest mistake perhaps was not marketing a white chocolate donut with a model done up in "white" face. Want to bet that if they did that you would not hear ONE SINGLE CLAIM of racism from ANYONE ? What a load of "Hogwash" Quite to the contrary, Kerrdy's comments are spot on, being both historically and culturally correct. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunderland Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 (edited) Edited August 31, 2013 by Sunderland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomross46 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Looks more beautiful black. I think they're overreacting frankly, have to agree with the Thailand CEO. But also have to agree it "fits into a long history of racist advertisements in Southeast Asia." Do you remember DARKIT tooth paste? Another brand that was forced to change because of the racist Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimbathewhitelion Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Coming from probably the most politically correct country in the world & the most liberal state (California) in the union, where the majority of the natives have never been to Asia or even encountered other cultures off soil (an "education of" only via the media). California is a State (LA is bad, but that is because all those lunatics from the North invaded) which believes if they buy an energy saving light bulb or drive a Prisus, that they are 'indeed' helping to save the world.....ahh point...must be more people there are careful with their wording and the those "finger pointers" are bored and now have to go further out to "keep face". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPIKECM Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Racism! White folks having to pay 50 baht more for a donut. Disgusting. I just wanna know why and Americano is only 40 baht at Dunkin Donuts in Phuket town and it's 90 baht at the one in Patong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPIKECM Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Looks more beautiful black. I think they're overreacting frankly, have to agree with the Thailand CEO. But also have to agree it "fits into a long history of racist advertisements in Southeast Asia." Do you remember DARKIT tooth paste? Another brand that was forced to change because of the racist Americans. they only changed one letter and the symbol remains the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon467367354 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 doesn't look racist to me, rather eye catching if nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminomadic Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 It's not offensive much less racist. It's not blackface. It's HRW trying to grab some spotlight. It only takes one to pipe up and get some attention; Native Americans don't give a crap if an NFL team is named the Redskins. However, if one Native American b1tches about it to somebody in the media, then the media has grist for that highly profitable PC/Identity Politics mill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Dunkin' Donuts apologises for 'bizarre and racist' Thai advertPoster to promote new 'charcoal donut' featured Thailand chief executive's daughter in 'blackface" Doesnt offend me much and its not really that great of an advert, IMO Me either. If they wanted realism they would have used a fat model. Non of the executives had a fat daughter. Or a black one either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Looks more beautiful black. I think they're overreacting frankly, have to agree with the Thailand CEO. But also have to agree it "fits into a long history of racist advertisements in Southeast Asia." Do you remember DARKIT tooth paste? Another brand that was forced to change because of the racist Americans. If you mean Darkie, which became Darlie, the impetus came from Thailand's friends in the non aligned movement. Afro Americans, like their caucasian and hispanic fellow citizens most likely have no idea Thailand exists. There is a greater likelihood of the country being mistaken for a discount haberdasher outlet than a nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post seminomadic Posted August 31, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2013 Here's a follow-up news story that would make my day, but will never happen: "In Response to Racist Ad Campaign Accusations, Dunkin Donuts Thailand Tells US Rights Group They Can Go Fnck Themselves" 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobl Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 tl;dr: Just more bs PC madness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 A Mexican Hat on a Donkey , will be next.. Insulting to Donkeys i suppose.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo the Face Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Black is beautiful! .....but for biased black bigots... Turns out a lot of them are biased racial specialists..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxYakov Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 This advert can only be seen is racist to racist people. Phil Robertson, you sir, are an idiot. Could not agree more. This is nonesense and Mr Robertson is indeed an idiot who needs to get a life and find something more credible to justify his existance. This racist and PC rhetoric has simply gone too far. If this truly is a concern for him he is simply in the wrong job. There are far more pressing human rights issues in this country than this trivial advert which if it offends anyone, then I am in total despair. Mr. Robertson, et al should be seated on a flight to Syria to investigate (watch?) some material (alleged) human rights abuses. Gas masks strongly recommended. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimbathewhitelion Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Looks more beautiful black. I think they're overreacting frankly, have to agree with the Thailand CEO. But also have to agree it "fits into a long history of racist advertisements in Southeast Asia."Do you remember DARKIT tooth paste? Another brand that was forced to change because of the racist Americans.Actually in comparison to most of the world (especially in consideration to America's existing life...around 200 years or less given the transitional period & the fact that it's a branch of the British/Irish and those Europeans - two of which brought such values as Slavery) America is closer to one of the least Racist countries in the World. Any country where in ratio the (rather large) majority are of one, the more "dislike to" or "stand-out" will be the foreigner. Asia & Japan are extreme racists (if not out right Bigots but with the broad "Banker's" smile - money side steps all), so are all of Latin & South America. The UK as well to a lessor degree from Asia & the hispanics but very high in Northern Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gonzo the Face Posted August 31, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2013 I think it would be a good cause for those of us in Thailand, [or not in Thailand for that matter} to demand that the ad be reinstated or else we will boycott Dunkin Donuts. The fact that this "Jerk " HRW guy who is supposed to have lived in Thailand for 20 years, is so ignorant of his enviroment, is apalling. He may know otherwise, but is just professionally covering his a$$ , by trying to placate the noisemakers. Well let us become the noisemakers and let him placate us. The fact that corporate America has nothing better to do than stirr up a mess like this is mindboggeling..... Find somewhere to get into a war or start one..... forget about sticking American PCness into any other country. Sounds like back to G Bush...... you're either with us or against us...... Corporate America and Political Correctness America....LEAVE US ALONE !!! tend to your own borders. And if anyone doesn't know the why..... its all stirred up to cater to the vote for the politicans, not what is right, rather , what is right to get you to vote for me... AND one more thing.... BRING BACK AUNT JEMIMA !! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windy Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 When will DD come to ISAAN e.g. Khonkaen? And yea chocolate dognuts are not new. They already have Dunkin Donuts here in Khon Kaen. Central Plaza, Fairy Plaza and Tukom to name a few Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMA_FARANG Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Perhaps they will now refer to this product as the "Darlie" Doughnut ------------------ I wondered if someone would comment on "Darlie" toothpaste. I first came to Thailand when it still was called "Darkie" toothpaste and remember it being sold in stores in Thailand under that name. Also marketed under that same name (with same image on the package) in Singapore as I recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacovl46 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 I met this guy once many years ago. He said he has a university degree, but can't find a white collar job because of his dark skin, so to make ends meet he took a job as the guard on the parking lot of a bank. Sad but true! Thais are amongst the most racist/discriminating people in the world, by that I don't mean them going out looking for non Thais to bash them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pookiki Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 I don't see any racism in this advertisement. Not like the model was eating watermelon or grits. Sometimes being politically 'correct' takes some bizarre twists and turns. Doughnuts have no historical links to blacks as a preferred food. Maybe the police should be offended! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regyai Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 (edited) they only changed one letter and the symbol remains the same. No They made the logo black guy in the big hat with the smile into a white one to appease the PC wailers You can still buy 'Blackman' mops etc in the Kingdom with an unadulterated logo Ssssh though an American might hear about them Edited August 31, 2013 by Regyai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertson468 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Sometimes I have to wonder if those in the "PB Brigade" felt unloved by their Mother - oh my God, I said the M word - arg-g-g-g I said the G word................c'mon people where the hell is this all going? Wake up, grow up and get an interesting life to occupy yourself and stop making stupid statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDweller Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Made me think of another ad I saw recently. Seems Black Man Cleaning tools, migh be pushing it a bit farther than the DD advert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomtomtom69 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Doesnt the world know that asians are racist? I dont recall ever seeing light skinned actors on TV in Thailand, Philippines, and Malaysia.... One time I saw an old Thai drama on TV where the main "poor low class girl" used black face make up. When they stop putting whitening agents in lotions and creams will be the day they stop being racist. I just live with it and pretend im in early 1900s america. Exactly. These American based executives that have probably never even traveled to Thailand and thus have no idea that Thailand is not politically correct like America is and they get outraged when something like this happens. Well, it's because Thailand is not America - the values here are different and while I do wish it was more tolerant and skin color was less of an issue, Thailand is not at that stage yet. Maybe in 50+ years but not now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regyai Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 (edited) Made me think of another ad I saw recently. Seems Black Man Cleaning tools, migh be pushing it a bit farther than the DD advert. As I said earlier And also as I said without a 'Blackman' corporation within CONUS waiting to be terrified by these whingeing Winnies it will not come to be mentioned Edited August 31, 2013 by Regyai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super22k Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Racism and racist are quite new words in the English language(about 60 years) but Race,as in Human race has been around a lot longer. It has been said that the words Racist and racism were brought in just to clobber the white people. But this Dunkin Doughnuts thing is ridiculous. Do these people have nothing better to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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