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Hi,

After reading a number of threads about applying for an Australian tourist visa for their Thai spouses, I'm wondering what I can expect for my own fiancee and what documents she should/shouldn't supply.

Here are some facts to help you:

Thai spouse is gainfully employed in Bangkok.

She plans on spending just 9-10 days in Australia with me - I fly there first, but we would be spending about 9-10 days together including one week on a combined business/holiday trip (the business trip is for my work, but it's OK if she tags along). 2 days later after the conclusion of that trip, we both fly back to Bangkok.

She plans on flying to Australia around the 20th of this month.

She can obtain a letter from her employer showing she will return to her job after the end of her Australia trip - she will be taking only 5-6 days leave; the other 4 days are weekend days so they don't count.

She has a reasonable bank balance, but not a huge one. Right now she has 50,000-60,000 Baht in her account at any one time but a regular income going into it so sometimes it gets closer to 100,000 but a few weeks later goes down to about 50,000ish as mentioned. I don't intend on topping up her account, nor does this seem to be a good idea, according to one of the posters on another thread.

Case in point: some years ago (in 2008), an unemployed friend of mine had her account topped up by someone she knows and it didn't help her Australian visa application as it was denied twice on the basis of not having a good reason to return to Thailand (that coupled with having been previously granted an American green card but that permanent visa having expired too, probably raised some suspicions). Anyway, I digress...

Of course, she would also need to fill out an application for visitor subclass 600, 1 passport photo, photocopies of passport front page and all other pages with previous visas and/or stamps for other countries (2 Chinese visas and stamps, 1 Lao entry/exit stamp and 1 Vietnam entry/exit stamp, USA entry stamps as USA visa is in old passport) and tabien baan, copy of her ID card?

Should I even bother writing a letter to support her application such as that she will be staying with me? While I am happy to write such a letter, I have read reports of the Australian spouse being asked to provide bank statements and a statutory declaration etc. but I don't want to complicate things with paperwork from me as it would take a while to provide such paperworAk on my part, when this should be an application about her. Surely the documents she provides will be enough to convince the officers of her intent to return to Thailand?

If she applies in 1-2 days from now on her lunch break do you think that's enough time to be granted her visa prior to the 20th? We don't intend on purchasing her ticket yet - which I will pay for, but we would like to purchase it ASAP although I doubt there will be a problem with seat availability this month in either direction, but I want to play it safe anyway.

Posted

You are cutting it fine if you want to depart on the 20th. For a tourist visa that my partner submitted in August, it took nearly 10 working days to get assessed.

As for what documents you should provide, that's really up to you as DIAC don't explicitly define what documents you need. The Australian Immigration website does provide a checklist which you can download here - http://www.immi.gov.au/visas/visitor/_pdf/600-document-checklist.pdf

Regardless of whether you want to register as her 'sponsor' or not, you should definitely provide a letter of invitation. The above checklist under "Documents to show you are a Genuine Visitor"

- "If you are visiting relatives or friends, a letter of invitation from your relative or friend in Australia. If your relative or friend is paying for your visit, evidence that they have the necessary funds"

Form 1419 will ask you questions about how your spouse will be funding her holiday. It's up to you whether you want to state you will be responsible for funding the trip. If you don't, then your spouse will be assessed on her own financial capabilities.

If I was providing for financial support for my spouses holiday, then I'd definitely be stating that in the application. I think it can only help, not hinder her application.

If you decide to apply in-line with your post, please let us know how it goes.

Posted

Timelines cutting it fine.

I can only suggest make sure your application is put together in a clear, easy to read neat layout. Helps make your assessors job just that bit easier.

Good luck with it!

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As a UK National it was a bit difficult to 'sponsor' and obtain a visit visa for my long term Thai GF one year ago; this to attend my UK National daughter's wedding to an Oz National.

I did add a letter to say I would be responsible for her welfare, etc while in Oz, and also got her medical insurance. both important I believe.

Persistence and a genuine reason to visit and then subsequently leave should get her there.

Reasons to return to Thailand (or at least no intentions/reasons to stay in Oz) a priority, no relatives in Oz, all help.

Date-stamped photos, especially with her family members in Thailand, going back a few years, will help to prove your relationship.

Think it took about 10 days for her visa. They never asked for her bank statements or financial info. Once the application is made they are very good at keeping you/she informed online.

<deleted>, go to Sydney and it seems there are more Thais than any other nationality!

Don't take 'No' for an answer, keep pushing it, they are very reasonable people if you have a genuine case.

Stating the obvious but don't buy tickets till she has the visa. Late booking usually costs more but heck, you want to be withher so what.

Good luck and a good trip to you both.

Posted

As a UK National it was a bit difficult to 'sponsor' and obtain a visit visa for my long term Thai GF one year ago; this to attend my UK National daughter's wedding to an Oz National.

I did add a letter to say I would be responsible for her welfare, etc while in Oz, and also got her medical insurance. both important I believe.

Persistence and a genuine reason to visit and then subsequently leave should get her there.

Reasons to return to Thailand (or at least no intentions/reasons to stay in Oz) a priority, no relatives in Oz, all help.

Date-stamped photos, especially with her family members in Thailand, going back a few years, will help to prove your relationship.

Think it took about 10 days for her visa. They never asked for her bank statements or financial info. Once the application is made they are very good at keeping you/she informed online.

<deleted>, go to Sydney and it seems there are more Thais than any other nationality!

Don't take 'No' for an answer, keep pushing it, they are very reasonable people if you have a genuine case.

Stating the obvious but don't buy tickets till she has the visa. Late booking usually costs more but heck, you want to be withher so what.

Good luck and a good trip to you both.

Thanks for your response and the other ones. Since I will be leaving in a couple of days for Aus and only have 3 weeks there myself, there was little time to prepare for this trip previously - I was away from Thailand until last week as well hence I hope there will still be enough time. My girlfriend will apply either herself (if the application centre is open during lunch) or using an agent as she can't miss work outside of the 12-1pm lunch break to apply for her visa. I believe it's a lot faster to process an application made in person at the VFS centre than if she were to post her application.

Posted

As a UK National it was a bit difficult to 'sponsor' and obtain a visit visa for my long term Thai GF one year ago; this to attend my UK National daughter's wedding to an Oz National.

I did add a letter to say I would be responsible for her welfare, etc while in Oz, and also got her medical insurance. both important I believe.

Persistence and a genuine reason to visit and then subsequently leave should get her there.

Reasons to return to Thailand (or at least no intentions/reasons to stay in Oz) a priority, no relatives in Oz, all help.

Date-stamped photos, especially with her family members in Thailand, going back a few years, will help to prove your relationship.

Think it took about 10 days for her visa. They never asked for her bank statements or financial info. Once the application is made they are very good at keeping you/she informed online.

<deleted>, go to Sydney and it seems there are more Thais than any other nationality!

Don't take 'No' for an answer, keep pushing it, they are very reasonable people if you have a genuine case.

Stating the obvious but don't buy tickets till she has the visa. Late booking usually costs more but heck, you want to be withher so what.

Good luck and a good trip to you both.

Late booking of tickets won't cost any more, it just depends on seat availability but it's always a bit of a risk because if we can't book the particular desired date, she might as well not go because even 1-2 days less wouldn't make the trip worthwhile. Also, I hope that the promotional fares will have seats available, but judging from the website, this time of year it's easy to find seats between Bangkok and Sydney - until last month every other day there was a special fare to/from Sydney and Bangkok, hence suggesting that seats weren't being sold at the regular fares so promotional fares were being used to entice travellers. However, my dad mentioned that on his flight on Saturday from Sydney to Bangkok, the flight was 99% full, with only 1 seat empty in economy class and none in business class (not sure about first class) hence the promotional fares were being sold I guess.

Posted

As a UK National it was a bit difficult to 'sponsor' and obtain a visit visa for my long term Thai GF one year ago; this to attend my UK National daughter's wedding to an Oz National.

I did add a letter to say I would be responsible for her welfare, etc while in Oz, and also got her medical insurance. both important I believe.

Persistence and a genuine reason to visit and then subsequently leave should get her there.

Reasons to return to Thailand (or at least no intentions/reasons to stay in Oz) a priority, no relatives in Oz, all help.

Date-stamped photos, especially with her family members in Thailand, going back a few years, will help to prove your relationship.

Think it took about 10 days for her visa. They never asked for her bank statements or financial info. Once the application is made they are very good at keeping you/she informed online.

<deleted>, go to Sydney and it seems there are more Thais than any other nationality!

Don't take 'No' for an answer, keep pushing it, they are very reasonable people if you have a genuine case.

Stating the obvious but don't buy tickets till she has the visa. Late booking usually costs more but heck, you want to be withher so what.

Good luck and a good trip to you both.

Thanks for your response and the other ones. Since I will be leaving in a couple of days for Aus and only have 3 weeks there myself, there was little time to prepare for this trip previously - I was away from Thailand until last week as well hence I hope there will still be enough time. My girlfriend will apply either herself (if the application centre is open during lunch) or using an agent as she can't miss work outside of the 12-1pm lunch break to apply for her visa. I believe it's a lot faster to process an application made in person at the VFS centre than if she were to post her application.

Definitely write a letter before you leave, stating that as her sponsor you will be responsible for all her expenses and welfare while she is in Australia.

It is much better if she can apply in person to the VFS but a 1 hour window might be a squeeze, depending how close she works.

Posted

1 hours not gonna happen. Allow the best part of a morning. I've waited over an hour plenty of times

Posted (edited)

Thanks for all your help so far, was very useful reading all your comments. My fiance went to apply Tuesday morning, shortly after VFS opened its doors. There was almost no wait, she was in and out in 15 mins (due to having to make a couple of extra photocopies of her passport and going downstairs to make a withdrawal to pay the visa fee).

I ended up writing a letter stating that I will be providing accommodation support and paying for her plane ticket - however, I did not include any photos of any kind as I felt that with her employment letter, reasonable amount of funds in her account and short length of proposed stay in Australia (10 days), previous trips to the USA for work and travel and study, 2 Canadian tourist visas successfully obtained and some travel to Laos, China and Vietnam in the past 2-3 years all of which she complied with the entry conditions for, I feel confident that she has fulfilled the requirements for a tourist visa for Australia.

I did mention how long we have known each other and the embassy staff are welcome to contact me or her for additional documents but it was very vague as to what other documents she should have provided about us - as I don't want to make the application about me, but about her as it is supposed to be like. I do hope they ask for additional documents or verification etc. rather than reject her visa but my hunch is there are few good reasons not to issue her with a visa - she has provided ample reasons to return to Thailand and her employer has stated a specific timeframe for which leave has been granted.

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Posted

Good luck.

An employment letter will help a lot (good reason to return), plus evidence of previous overseas visits she should be OK.

VFS normally get in contact by email fairly quickly and if they should require any further documentation it can be done online as she will have an application reference number now.

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Posted

1 hours not gonna happen. Allow the best part of a morning. I've waited over an hour plenty of times

I take that back! I suppose when your first in, first served.
Posted

OK application has been received back at the VFS application centre, in time for us to book flights as requested on the employment letter and my letter. However, we don't know the outcome of the application yet (it took 8 days) as my fiance hasn't picked it up yet (but will later this afternoon). Should I take it to mean it was approved or rejected, given the relatively fast processing prior to the 21st? The Embassy did not call me up to verify the details I mentioned in my letter, but fingers crossed it was approved.

Posted

OK application has been received back at the VFS application centre, in time for us to book flights as requested on the employment letter and my letter. However, we don't know the outcome of the application yet (it took 8 days) as my fiance hasn't picked it up yet (but will later this afternoon). Should I take it to mean it was approved or rejected, given the relatively fast processing prior to the 21st? The Embassy did not call me up to verify the details I mentioned in my letter, but fingers crossed it was approved.

If the visa is approved you/GF will receive an email to say so and come in to collect it.

Posted

OK application has been received back at the VFS application centre, in time for us to book flights as requested on the employment letter and my letter. However, we don't know the outcome of the application yet (it took 8 days) as my fiance hasn't picked it up yet (but will later this afternoon). Should I take it to mean it was approved or rejected, given the relatively fast processing prior to the 21st? The Embassy did not call me up to verify the details I mentioned in my letter, but fingers crossed it was approved.

If the visa is approved you/GF will receive an email to say so and come in to collect it.

Thanks. However, she claims that she didn't receive any email from VFS or the embassy, only an update on the VFS website tracker stating that her application is ready for pick up. I wonder if that means anything, or if they haven't sent the email yet because this update has only been available in the past hour.

Posted

Probably approved. Guess you have to wait then till she goes and gets it.

Let us know what it says ok, good luck!

Posted

OK application has been received back at the VFS application centre, in time for us to book flights as requested on the employment letter and my letter. However, we don't know the outcome of the application yet (it took 8 days) as my fiance hasn't picked it up yet (but will later this afternoon). Should I take it to mean it was approved or rejected, given the relatively fast processing prior to the 21st? The Embassy did not call me up to verify the details I mentioned in my letter, but fingers crossed it was approved.

If the visa is approved you/GF will receive an email to say so and come in to collect it.

Thanks. However, she claims that she didn't receive any email from VFS or the embassy, only an update on the VFS website tracker stating that her application is ready for pick up. I wonder if that means anything, or if they haven't sent the email yet because this update has only been available in the past hour.

Sounds like the visa is ready.

Best if she can go in and find out. Soon as they open tomorrow?

Posted (edited)

OK application has been received back at the VFS application centre, in time for us to book flights as requested on the employment letter and my letter. However, we don't know the outcome of the application yet (it took 8 days) as my fiance hasn't picked it up yet (but will later this afternoon). Should I take it to mean it was approved or rejected, given the relatively fast processing prior to the 21st? The Embassy did not call me up to verify the details I mentioned in my letter, but fingers crossed it was approved.

If the visa is approved you/GF will receive an email to say so and come in to collect it.

Thanks. However, she claims that she didn't receive any email from VFS or the embassy, only an update on the VFS website tracker stating that her application is ready for pick up. I wonder if that means anything, or if they haven't sent the email yet because this update has only been available in the past hour.

Sounds like the visa is ready.

Best if she can go in and find out. Soon as they open tomorrow?

Yes, most likely. Seems that the pickup time is between 3pm and 4.30pm according to the VFS website (just read it now).

Also, is it possible for her to call the VFS centre and ask whether it was approved or not? We know it's ready, but are eager to have confirmation before tomorrow, if possible.

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If the visa is approved you/GF will receive an email to say so and come in to collect it.

Thanks. However, she claims that she didn't receive any email from VFS or the embassy, only an update on the VFS website tracker stating that her application is ready for pick up. I wonder if that means anything, or if they haven't sent the email yet because this update has only been available in the past hour.

Sounds like the visa is ready.

Best if she can go in and find out. Soon as they open tomorrow?

Yes, most likely. Seems that the pickup time is between 3pm and 4.30pm according to the VFS website (just read it now).

Also, is it possible for her to call the VFS centre and ask whether it was approved or not? We know it's ready, but are eager to have confirmation before tomorrow, if possible.

Can't remember what time the GF collected hers but am sure it was earlier in the day.

Best to phone them if she has a number, all we had was emails.

Good luck

Posted

VFS are basically just a glorified courier service so they wouldn't/shouldn't know what's inside the envelope.

There's nothing to stop your girlfriend phoning and asking but I don't like her chances.

Posted

VFS are basically just a glorified courier service so they wouldn't/shouldn't know what's inside the envelope.

There's nothing to stop your girlfriend phoning and asking but I don't like her chances.

Sounds like we will have to wait until tomorrow. She actually works nearby so getting a few mins off work to pickup her application is not a problem; the problem is she forgot her passport photocopy and pickup voucher today, hence needs to wait until tomorrow for pickup then.

Posted

VFS are basically just a glorified courier service so they wouldn't/shouldn't know what's inside the envelope.

There's nothing to stop your girlfriend phoning and asking but I don't like her chances.

Sounds like we will have to wait until tomorrow. She actually works nearby so getting a few mins off work to pickup her application is not a problem; the problem is she forgot her passport photocopy and pickup voucher today, hence needs to wait until tomorrow for pickup then.

We were sent an email to say the visa was ready for collection.

I'm sure if they had any queries VFS would have been in contact before 8 days.

Women! Why doesn't she have the paperwork to be able to go any time??

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We were sent an email to say the visa was ready for collection.

It would be really great to see that email if you don't mind?

My experience is that they actually don't say your 'Visa' is ready for collection ... rather that your 'Passport' is ready for collection?

Times change of course but ...

2nd communication

On Tuesday 21st, midafternoon (Thai time) she received an email as below (personal details removed)

Dear FIRST NAME, Your processed application reference no. THAC/000012/0000/00 has been couriered to you on 21/02/2012 which should reach you within 2-3 working days. Please note this is an auto generated e-mail. Please do NOT reply to this email.

Now, the above message is wrong because it says “has been couriered to you” when, in fact, she asked for it to be posted back. Just a hick-up, so don’t be surprised if you received a similar email, when you have requested a different return of Passport etc.

I assume they use automatic email to suit all circumstances.

Australian-tourist-visa-application

Posted

We were sent an email to say the visa was ready for collection.

It would be really great to see that email if you don't mind?

My experience is that they actually don't say your 'Visa' is ready for collection ... rather that your 'Passport' is ready for collection?

Times change of course but ...

2nd communication

On Tuesday 21st, midafternoon (Thai time) she received an email as below (personal details removed)

Dear FIRST NAME, Your processed application reference no. THAC/000012/0000/00 has been couriered to you on 21/02/2012 which should reach you within 2-3 working days. Please note this is an auto generated e-mail. Please do NOT reply to this email.

Now, the above message is wrong because it says has been couriered to you when, in fact, she asked for it to be posted back. Just a hick-up, so dont be surprised if you received a similar email, when you have requested a different return of Passport etc.

I assume they use automatic email to suit all circumstances.

Australian-tourist-visa-application

Hi David,

It was difficult for me as a UK citizen to sponsor my Thai 'wife/gf' and exchanged quite a few emails with this gentleman.

I sent him emails of discussions and architect plans for the house we are having built in Kalasin but not good enough.

Finally one afternoon sent him a series of date-stamped photos going back over the years and woke up next morning to receive the following. I have edited our names, (and note the collection time). We were there shortly after noon to pick up the visa.

From: [email protected]

To: [email protected]

Subject: RE: Visit visa Miss Kxxxx Bxxxxxx FW: updates 28 april 2012 [sEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 02:51:47 +0000

Good Morning Mr Rxxxxxx,

Thank you for your attention. Now, I am satisfied with your relationship with Ms Bxxxxxx and I could see that you have granted a visa.

However, I have finalised Ms Bxxxxxxs application and it is ready to be picked up by today noon.

Have a good day.

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Posted

We were sent an email to say the visa was ready for collection.

It would be really great to see that email if you don't mind?

My experience is that they actually don't say your 'Visa' is ready for collection ... rather that your 'Passport' is ready for collection?

Times change of course but ...

2nd communication

On Tuesday 21st, midafternoon (Thai time) she received an email as below (personal details removed)

Dear FIRST NAME, Your processed application reference no. THAC/000012/0000/00 has been couriered to you on 21/02/2012 which should reach you within 2-3 working days. Please note this is an auto generated e-mail. Please do NOT reply to this email.

Now, the above message is wrong because it says has been couriered to you when, in fact, she asked for it to be posted back. Just a hick-up, so dont be surprised if you received a similar email, when you have requested a different return of Passport etc.

I assume they use automatic email to suit all circumstances.

Australian-tourist-visa-application

Hi David,

It was difficult for me as a UK citizen to sponsor my Thai 'wife/gf' and exchanged quite a few emails with this gentleman.

I sent him emails of discussions and architect plans for the house we are having built in Kalasin but not good enough.

Finally one afternoon sent him a series of date-stamped photos going back over the years and woke up next morning to receive the following. I have edited our names, (and note the collection time). We were there shortly after noon to pick up the visa.

From: [email protected]

To: [email protected]

Subject: RE: Visit visa Miss Kxxxx Bxxxxxx FW: updates 28 april 2012 [sEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 02:51:47 +0000

Good Morning Mr Rxxxxxx,

Thank you for your attention. Now, I am satisfied with your relationship with Ms Bxxxxxx and I could see that you have granted a visa.

However, I have finalised Ms Bxxxxxxs application and it is ready to be picked up by today noon.

Have a good day.

Uness I'm mistaken, that letter is from your case officer and not VFS?

AFAIK, It's not "standard" practice to get an email from VFS or a case officer

advising of a visa grant.

Your case was somewhat different as you were in constant contact with your CO.

It won't apply to the majority of applications.

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Uness I'm mistaken, that letter is from your case officer and not VFS?

AFAIK, It's not "standard" practice to get an email from VFS or a case officer

advising of a visa grant.

Your case was somewhat different as you were in constant contact with your CO.

It won't apply to the majority of applications.

Yes the CO originally contacted me for further info. He did not quote the VSF reference number, her name only.

It was a good outcome as I was able to give him more info rather than receiving a flat refusal.

I don't know why my case would have been different to any other unless because I'm a Pom as sponsor as opposed to an Oz national.

Posted

Uness I'm mistaken, that letter is from your case officer and not VFS?

AFAIK, It's not "standard" practice to get an email from VFS or a case officer

advising of a visa grant.

Your case was somewhat different as you were in constant contact with your CO.

It won't apply to the majority of applications.

Yes the CO originally contacted me for further info. He did not quote the VSF reference number, her name only.

It was a good outcome as I was able to give him more info rather than receiving a flat refusal.

I don't know why my case would have been different to any other unless because I'm a Pom as sponsor as opposed to an Oz national.

It was different because you were in constant contact with the CO, who ended up emailing you the result.

You said "If the visa is approved you/GF will receive an email to say so and come in to collect it".

Like I said, this normally isn't the case. You usually just get an email from VFS saying come and pick up your answer.

This is what the OP was asking and because you said you receive an email saying the visa has been granted, he probably

got worried. I think that's why David48 asked to see the email, because it's really the norm. And definitely not from VFS.

Regards

Will

Posted

Uness I'm mistaken, that letter is from your case officer and not VFS?

AFAIK, It's not "standard" practice to get an email from VFS or a case officer

advising of a visa grant.

Your case was somewhat different as you were in constant contact with your CO.

It won't apply to the majority of applications.

Yes the CO originally contacted me for further info. He did not quote the VSF reference number, her name only.

It was a good outcome as I was able to give him more info rather than receiving a flat refusal.

I don't know why my case would have been different to any other unless because I'm a Pom as sponsor as opposed to an Oz national.

Good to know that her case officer got in touch with you. In my case there was no communication or attempt thereof (that I am aware of) as I put down my home phone number in Australia on my invitation letter since I didn't have my mobile number on hand. Reason being I don't normally reside in Australia as I work overseas and only returned to Australia on Saturday, about half way between the time the application was made and the time it was returned.

Ever since the application was submitted I've been worried that maybe I should have provided more documents showing I will support my fiance, but as the support is mostly just accommodation at my place and a promise to pay for hotel expenses on a planned trip plus her airfare, I guess I thought that with her bank balance and ongoing income from work that should be enough to satisfy the income requirement. I do hope that if my support was deemed to be a major contributing factor to the grant of the visa, especially given she only submitted my invitation letter in addition to her documents and nothing else (no photos of me or us together or my bank statements etc.), that they would have contacted either my fiance or me for further information. Since they did not do so, I can only assume that they were satisfied with the letter or if the application was unsuccessful, there was another reason why it wasn't successful, unrelated to my circumstances.

In only a few hours, we will know the outcome and I will inform everyone via this thread.

Posted

Good news:

Visa was granted for 3 months, single entry as requested.

Obviously the usual conditions apply - no work, can't study for more than 3 months.

It seems that her application was quite strong on the basis of her documents, rather than needing mine. Even so, for future applications I will be providing her with more documents than just an invitation letter, but this time we got what we wanted.

It will be my fiance's first visa to Australia. Having lived in America for 5 years, been to Canada twice as a tourist during her time studying and working in the States, travelled twice to China (Kunming) and once each to Laos and Vietnam in the past year surely helped as well, I think.

Congratulations!

Am sure your letter guaranteeing her welfare will have helped a lot, plus letter of employment, plus her numerous trips and always returning to Thailand.

Enjoy your time together in Oz.

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