17,000 Saudis visit Thailand despite ban

[giddyup]

Apparently the nerve gas used on Syrian children also came from Saudi Arabia. Etc.etc.etc. theres a lot of heavy duty crime coming from that place and while I agree with the "blue diamond" post above, I think you will find there are places in SA where you could experience all those crimes that you listed happening in Bangkok, with a cherry ontop.

But obviously, countries with strict religious laws and taboos, be they sex or gambling, you will always see a mass-exodus towards countries where those taboos are rightly laughed at. Because fundamentally people accept many of the social norms out of duty (usually to their ancestors or direct family) but don't agree with them and find them difficult to live by. You can also chart globally nations where people are allowed to express themselves (in whatever way) and map them with nations that are generally happier and healthier and less violent. Is interesting.

Where are they going to go when they have converted the whole world to a Muslim belief? Maybe look back with regret and think "you know what, the West wasn't so bad after all".

[newermonkey]

"Al Shuaibi attributed the reluctance of the thousands of tourists who did not register with the embassy to “unfounded concerns that the diplomatic mission would report their names to Riyadh for breaking the ban”.

.... and then the pussy pilgrimages would be curtailed.

[justathought]

if the rich arab states like Saudia, Kuwait & Dubai stopped slavery, the rest of the world may stop disliking them so much

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlZY83QHKL8

[atyclb]

Where else can they fill their bellies with pork and booze and ravage pretty girls of the night? Thailand!

I sadly wonder if you are referring to the "pretty girls of the night" in front of the Grace hotel?

[jacko45k]

It's not a serious ban or more Saudis would end up paying the penalty (if there even is one) after they arrive back home with their passports stamped 'Thailand.'

A large number of Saudis go to Thailand for medical treatment. They generally go as a family group. If the males were just looking for prostitutues, they can always go to Bahrain where the bizness caters to their specific cultural requirements.

Really, I thought it was free to them there in KSA and of a fairly good standard.

It would not be free in Thailand.

[cheshiremusicman]

Wonder why they came here ???

It couldn't have something to do with 'PLASTIC SURGERY' could it. By hell a lot of them need it !

I'm sure the surgeons are making a bomb out of this lot.

[Rigs]

Exactly the average Saudi doesn't care about some rich Saudi's Jewelry. They come for the entertainment Girls/Ladyboys and Alcohol. Please.

[samran]

It's not a serious ban or more Saudis would end up paying the penalty (if there even is one) after they arrive back home with their passports stamped 'Thailand.'

A large number of Saudis go to Thailand for medical treatment. They generally go as a family group. If the males were just looking for prostitutues, they can always go to Bahrain where the bizness caters to their specific cultural requirements.

Stop it with the sensible answers.

Can't you see this thread is the perfect storm of a Thai and Muslim bash? Two birds with one stone...

[tonneke breda]

They should complete the list with how many of these Saudi's drank Alcohol, slept with women outside their marriage and ate pork.

Then they would have a never ending list....

[britinthai]

Saudis making 17,000 damsels in Soi Nana happy......are u crazy and this comment is simply outrageous. Shows you have no clue about Saudis. They actually made more than 100,000 local gay boys working in the gay bars and also the ladyboys happy.PLus there has been some unexplained shocking deaths of sheep in certain upcountry farms!

Good point AA, can we assume the upcountry sheep are known as "baa" girls?

Or lady-boys with bhallocks

[Richard Hall]

PLus there has been some unexplained shocking deaths of sheep in certain upcountry farms!

Just pondering why Thailand under these circumstances? New Zealand must be much more almost Heaven for wild men in comparison.

[TackyToo]

Wonder why they came here ???

Temples and Somtam dummy

[stevehaigh]

who registers with their embassy anyhow? i doubt its many from every nationality

[Benmart]

It is amazing at the crudeness of some of the comments about Saudis, their lifestyle, women, etc. What surfaces from such comments is a lack of basic manners and civility. Regardless of the perception or verified facts of the Saudi behavior in Thailand, the descriptions by various posters are tasteless and juvenile.

[Nobbie49]

Having worked in wonderful Saudi Arabia for 16 years, trust me, this ban is a blessing in disguise, long may it last.

[johnefallis]

Saudis making 17,000 damsels in Soi Nana happy......are u crazy and this comment is simply outrageous. Shows you have no clue about Saudis. They actually made more than 100,000 local gay boys working in the gay bars and also the ladyboys happy.PLus there has been some unexplained shocking deaths of sheep in certain upcountry farms!

Good point AA, can we assume the upcountry sheep are known as "baa" girls?

roflmao, nicely put!

I don't care what people say, not "everyone" on Thaivisa is a complete idiot...

[johnefallis]

It is amazing at the crudeness of some of the comments about Saudis, their lifestyle, women, etc. What surfaces from such comments is a lack of basic manners and civility. Regardless of the perception or verified facts of the Saudi behavior in Thailand, the descriptions by various posters are tasteless and juvenile.

arai na?

[GuestHouse]

I see the TV bigots have come out in force in this thread.

[Whidbeyboy]

Wonder why they came here ???

I think it may be to do with the fact that they can do things here that would result in a flogging, or worse, at home.

Yes, the hypocrisy is unreal but typical. Course your talking about people whose religion condemns all sexual related activities with severe punishment and disgrace yet when they die in by suicide they basically go to a brothel.

Maybe they are just practicing for the afterlife and martyrdom. Course, good luck finding 72 virgins in Bkk.

[Whidbeyboy]

It's not a serious ban or more Saudis would end up paying the penalty (if there even is one) after they arrive back home with their passports stamped 'Thailand.'

A large number of Saudis go to Thailand for medical treatment. They generally go as a family group. If the males were just looking for prostitutues, they can always go to Bahrain where the bizness caters to their specific cultural requirements.

Been to Bahrain and seen it with my own eyes, the drinking, eating bacon/pork and the womanising. All things I believe they are not allowed to do in Saudi, hence they probably fly to LOS just for a difference from Bahrain.

Plus isn't Bahrain a bit pricy? Maybe no big deal to a Saudi, but still.

[Cuban]

I await with baited breath the "it could happen anywhere" nonsense from the apologists.

"...with bated breath..."

Don't you just hate it when you make a simple typo?

[Whidbeyboy]

Wonder why they came here ???

wonder why people ask stupid questions?

It's called being facetious. And rhetorical at that. Or maybe you were too, who knows? But I hope so.

[JSixpack]

The Blue Diamond Affair.

Of course you are reluctant to allow your citizens to visit a country that has proven it's dishonesty by robbing you of prized assets, returning fakes then assuring the crime is covered up and those associated with fencing the goods are murdered, along with their families.

It doesn't help that your diplomats are gunned down in broad daylight in central Bangkok.

It also doesn't help when influential persons are spotted wearing the jewelry at social functions, seemingly with absolute disregard and contempt.

I await with baited breath the "it could happen anywhere" nonsense from the apologists.

It's just amazing how you were able quickly to sort out the whole matter. What would we have done otherwise. Brilliant.

[Baerboxer]

Apparently the nerve gas used on Syrian children also came from Saudi Arabia. Etc.etc.etc. theres a lot of heavy duty crime coming from that place and while I agree with the "blue diamond" post above, I think you will find there are places in SA where you could experience all those crimes that you listed happening in Bangkok, with a cherry ontop.

But obviously, countries with strict religious laws and taboos, be they sex or gambling, you will always see a mass-exodus towards countries where those taboos are rightly laughed at. Because fundamentally people accept many of the social norms out of duty (usually to their ancestors or direct family) but don't agree with them and find them difficult to live by. You can also chart globally nations where people are allowed to express themselves (in whatever way) and map them with nations that are generally happier and healthier and less violent. Is interesting.

Do you have any facts to support your views that chemical attacks took place in Syria (the UN would be interested) and that the agent used was supplied by KSA? Can you substantiate your accusations of heavy duty crime please? Have you ever actually been there?

Thailand attracts sex tourists from many countries. It also attracts many decent families who certainly don't come for the cheap booze, cheap tarts and easily available sexual deviants. To suggest all Saudi tourists are sex tourist is bigotry. Unless you have some proof otherwise. It is the same as suggesting all Thai ladies are whores, willing to sell themselves. And I know many people who have never been to Thailand are stupid enough to think that.

You think Thailand is a crime free, happy go lucky democracy, with little violence? This case highlights just how high and wide corruption infests here, the lack of law enforcement and the contempt and utter disregard for anyone who is not a hiso Thai. Everyone else is expendable.

The Saudis are victims here - victims of Thai crime, corruption, and lies. Yet we get posters whose only contribution is to slag off the Saudis and make unsubstantiated comments. If they made the same comments about Thailand they would be charged with defamation or ruining the country's image or some such.

[Baerboxer]

It's not a serious ban or more Saudis would end up paying the penalty (if there even is one) after they arrive back home with their passports stamped 'Thailand.'

A large number of Saudis go to Thailand for medical treatment. They generally go as a family group. If the males were just looking for prostitutues, they can always go to Bahrain where the bizness caters to their specific cultural requirements.

Been to Bahrain and seen it with my own eyes, the drinking, eating bacon/pork and the womanising. All things I believe they are not allowed to do in Saudi, hence they probably fly to LOS just for a difference from Bahrain.

Oh, I've also seen them in Bahrain (drunk, loud and looking for porn). Bahrain is known to cater to their lusts for female companionship and eye candy of the voluptuous variety they so crave. If they are looking for something different, they usually head straight to Malaysia or Indonesia where their needs can be met better than in Thailand. Thailand is typically an afterthought to their original plans OR a thought of as medical treatment destination. I think most of them claim that as a 'reason' for going to Thailand once they return. In fact, most of the Gulf states pay for their citizens to receive medical care in Thailand as it's superior to their own and much cheaper. Their governments always cover their medical expenses in full!

Most Gulf states give their citizens free VIP medical cover and annual check ups etc. But, that does not include treatment in Thailand or anywhere else. They have to pay here themselves. All the ones I know come here because Thai hospitals and spars have a high reputation and they can easily afford the costs. The doctors in their hospitals are mostly from the Indian sub-continent and the arabs I know don't highly regard them.

There are a lot of younger unmarried or not too long married arab guys I know who come for the other entertainments Thailand offers. But, isn't that the same with Westerners, Indians, East Europeans and Japanese?

I used to work in the German/Netherlands border area. Lots of small brothels on the Netherlands side. I used to watch all the German registered cars driving out of them from my hotel's bar. Same as Saudis going over to Bahrain, etc etc.

[Baerboxer]

They don't come here for the women, that's for sure. With the Arab dudes, it's all about the ladyboys.

You have proof of your assertive comment - or just pretending you know something?

[lumply]

Correction please. In my 30+ years of living in the Middle East, including KSA, I have very rarely come across a Saudi or indeed a Muslim who eats pork. However I always remember Riyadh to the biggest boozed up place 'on earth', and Jeddah, a fair representation of a brothel. Don't need to go there any more pleased to say.

[Baerboxer]

Apparently the nerve gas used on Syrian children also came from Saudi Arabia. Etc.etc.etc. theres a lot of heavy duty crime coming from that place and while I agree with the "blue diamond" post above, I think you will find there are places in SA where you could experience all those crimes that you listed happening in Bangkok, with a cherry ontop.

But obviously, countries with strict religious laws and taboos, be they sex or gambling, you will always see a mass-exodus towards countries where those taboos are rightly laughed at. Because fundamentally people accept many of the social norms out of duty (usually to their ancestors or direct family) but don't agree with them and find them difficult to live by. You can also chart globally nations where people are allowed to express themselves (in whatever way) and map them with nations that are generally happier and healthier and less violent. Is interesting.

Where are they going to go when they have converted the whole world to a Muslim belief? Maybe look back with regret and think "you know what, the West wasn't so bad after all".

Islam, as a religion, does not seek out converts aggressively unlike Catholics and Evangelists. Yet it's growing much more? Ever wondered why?

The perception of world wide conversion is to believe all Moslems are like the loony terrorists and uneducated pakistani and afghan fanatics. Most are not.

[RuskiCat]

Wonder why they came here ???

wonder why people ask stupid questions?

Probably for the same reason Robert the Bruce came here.

[winstonc]

Apparently the nerve gas used on Syrian children also came from Saudi Arabia. Etc.etc.etc. theres a lot of heavy duty crime coming from that place and while I agree with the "blue diamond" post above, I think you will find there are places in SA where you could experience all those crimes that you listed happening in Bangkok, with a cherry ontop.

But obviously, countries with strict religious laws and taboos, be they sex or gambling, you will always see a mass-exodus towards countries where those taboos are rightly laughed at. Because fundamentally people accept many of the social norms out of duty (usually to their ancestors or direct family) but don't agree with them and find them difficult to live by. You can also chart globally nations where people are allowed to express themselves (in whatever way) and map them with nations that are generally happier and healthier and less violent. Is interesting.

Do you have any facts to support your views that chemical attacks took place in Syria (the UN would be interested) and that the agent used was supplied by KSA? Can you substantiate your accusations of heavy duty crime please? Have you ever actually been there?

Thailand attracts sex tourists from many countries. It also attracts many decent families who certainly don't come for the cheap booze, cheap tarts and easily available sexual deviants. To suggest all Saudi tourists are sex tourist is bigotry. Unless you have some proof otherwise. It is the same as suggesting all Thai ladies are whores, willing to sell themselves. And I know many people who have never been to Thailand are stupid enough to think that.

You think Thailand is a crime free, happy go lucky democracy, with little violence? This case highlights just how high and wide corruption infests here, the lack of law enforcement and the contempt and utter disregard for anyone who is not a hiso Thai. Everyone else is expendable.

The Saudis are victims here - victims of Thai crime, corruption, and lies. Yet we get posters whose only contribution is to slag off the Saudis and make unsubstantiated comments. If they made the same comments about Thailand they would be charged with defamation or ruining the country's image or some such.

i take issue with your last 2 lines...were always slagging off thailand..you were doing so well up to that point hahahahahaha we must be slagging them off cos posters are always saying if you dont like it here go back to your own country..be cool