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Just wondering is it legal to courier a passport to Thailand?

The person has two valid passports (different countries) so they are valid in Thailand. However, is it legal to post the other passport to them?

I've tried searching on here and on the net but can't see any definitive answer.

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If you want to use the passport in Thailand you are going to have a problem due to you not having a Thai entry stamp that would be in your other passport so you would be unable to leave Thailand on that passport, having it couriered should not be a problem but using for exit out of Thailand would be. You could exit on the passport with the entry stamp and then enter Thailand again on the other one if you want too.

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If it is a passport that has not been used to enter Thailand or one you will plan to exit the country with then there is no problem.

I've got a couple of passports and due to the amount of travel I've done over the last 20 years I have often had to have a new one sent by Fed Ex.

Unless there is some obvious scam such as trying to rip of the UK social services then there is no problem.

Always keep the old one with you unless like me you've been to countries where certain passports and stamps are not acceptable.

In the old days of hi jacking I never travelled with my British passport.

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It depends if the "person" was trying to get another visa stamp from Hull (or elsewhere) without leaving Thailand whistling.gif

RAZZ

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It depends if the "person" was trying to get another visa stamp from Hull (or elsewhere) without leaving Thailand whistling.gif

RAZZ

Yes I thought about that hence my line on UK social services.

Modern technology is such that a scammer will be found out quickly. You can track anyone anywhere in the world through the airline database.

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I think the OP was asking about sending his passport to Thailand from the UK.

So I am assuming the passport holder is in the UK, depends upon if they entered the UK on the passport as assuming they are Thai then it will hold a valid visa, they may need this if challenged while in the UK.

I am assuming if the passport in question was not used to enter the UK then there would be no issue with the UK but there maybe with Thailand or the country which issued the passport.

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I read it differently Basil, as the OP asked about posting the passport to them, I assumed the passport was in the UK but the owner wasn't.

Likewise I don't know the definitive answer, but I do know you cannot apply to the UK to renew your passport from Thailand, but in the case of just sending a passport from the UK to Thailand I don't see an issue, after all the Passport Agency sends new passports from the UK to Thailand via DHL.

It really boils down to the reasons behind the need, the holder wouldn't be able to leave Thailand on that passport, you have indicated that the passport currently in possession is from a different country.

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I just recently got my second passport sent to Thailand by DHL and it took two weeks to arrive here. The reason for this snail mail delivery was, that the sender marked "passport" on the delivery documents. This has the effect that in Thailand an additional fee occur which has to be paid first before your mail is forwarded. Don't mention "passport" on the delivery documents and your mail will arrive in between four days. I've done it many times, no issues.

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I read it differently Basil, as the OP asked about posting the passport to them, I assumed the passport was in the UK but the owner wasn't.

Likewise I don't know the definitive answer, but I do know you cannot apply to the UK to renew your passport from Thailand, but in the case of just sending a passport from the UK to Thailand I don't see an issue, after all the Passport Agency sends new passports from the UK to Thailand via DHL.

It really boils down to the reasons behind the need, the holder wouldn't be able to leave Thailand on that passport, you have indicated that the passport currently in possession is from a different country.

Sorry for not being clear. Thai passport exited UK and arrived in Thailand but no visa to come back to UK hence need British passport.

Thanks everyone for the responses BTW.

From what I'm reading this is legal and in this case it's not a scam.

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The reason for sending the paspsort is important.

If a person sends a passport to the UK to obtain a visa for Thailand while he is in Thailand on a different passport it is not allowed and immigration will not be amused.

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The reason for sending the paspsort is important.

 

If a person sends a passport to the UK to obtain a visa for Thailand while he is in Thailand on a different passport it is not allowed and immigration will not be amused. 

That's definitely not true. I entered Thailand without a visa and got my 30 days. During these 30 days I have somebody send my other passport with a one year multiple entry non-B visa to Thailand. This Monday I went to the immigration office and presented both passports and told them that I will exit on one passport and reenter on the other passport. They checked both passports and told me to go ahead. I exit Thailand by land crossing, got my Cambodian visa in the same passport, u-turn, exit Cambodia and went to Thai immigration. There I presented the passport with the multiple entry visa and reenter Thailand. No issues at all. Both passports are the same nationality, no double citizenship.

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The reason for sending the paspsort is important.

If a person sends a passport to the UK to obtain a visa for Thailand while he is in Thailand on a different passport it is not allowed and immigration will not be amused.

That's definitely not true. I entered Thailand without a visa and got my 30 days. During these 30 days I have somebody send my other passport with a one year multiple entry non-B visa to Thailand. This Monday I went to the immigration office and presented both passports and told them that I will exit on one passport and reenter on the other passport. They checked both passports and told me to go ahead. I exit Thailand by land crossing, got my Cambodian visa in the same passport, u-turn, exit Cambodia and went to Thai immigration. There I presented the passport with the multiple entry visa and reenter Thailand. No issues at all. Both passports are the same nationality, no double citizenship.

Fatfather

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That is a different situation from what Mario wrote/intended, since you were not in the country on the passport/visa/visa exempt that was sent to Thailand, and you also did not exit the country on that passport.

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The reason for sending the paspsort is important.

 

If a person sends a passport to the UK to obtain a visa for Thailand while he is in Thailand on a different passport it is not allowed and immigration will not be amused. 

That's definitely not true. I entered Thailand without a visa and got my 30 days. During these 30 days I have somebody send my other passport with a one year multiple entry non-B visa to Thailand. This Monday I went to the immigration office and presented both passports and told them that I will exit on one passport and reenter on the other passport. They checked both passports and told me to go ahead. I exit Thailand by land crossing, got my Cambodian visa in the same passport, u-turn, exit Cambodia and went to Thai immigration. There I presented the passport with the multiple entry visa and reenter Thailand. No issues at all. Both passports are the same nationality, no double citizenship.

Fatfather

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That is a different situation from what Mario wrote/intended, since you were not in the country on the passport/visa/visa exempt that was sent to Thailand, and you also did not exit the country on that passport.
... while he is in Thailand on a different passport.....

What got I wrong?

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I believe you and i are indeed talking about the same situation.

But i stand by my remark. You are not supposed to apply for a visa for Thailand while being in Thailand. Immigration doesn't like it, despite the officer telling you "no,problem".

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The reason for sending the paspsort is important.

If a person sends a passport to the UK to obtain a visa for Thailand while he is in Thailand on a different passport it is not allowed and immigration will not be amused.

That's definitely not true. I entered Thailand without a visa and got my 30 days. During these 30 days I have somebody send my other passport with a one year multiple entry non-B visa to Thailand. This Monday I went to the immigration office and presented both passports and told them that I will exit on one passport and reenter on the other passport. They checked both passports and told me to go ahead. I exit Thailand by land crossing, got my Cambodian visa in the same passport, u-turn, exit Cambodia and went to Thai immigration. There I presented the passport with the multiple entry visa and reenter Thailand. No issues at all. Both passports are the same nationality, no double citizenship.

Fatfather

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Err...can you explain how you have two passports from the same country? whistling.gif

To get back to the OP...a few years ago...the British "cheap charlies" of Samui, Pattaya etc who were too lazy or too skint to fly out of the country to renew there non-"o's" used to post their passports back to the UK...I don't think you can get away with this now with the new computer system at immigration..

RAZZ

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I read it differently Basil, as the OP asked about posting the passport to them, I assumed the passport was in the UK but the owner wasn't.

Likewise I don't know the definitive answer, but I do know you cannot apply to the UK to renew your passport from Thailand, but in the case of just sending a passport from the UK to Thailand I don't see an issue, after all the Passport Agency sends new passports from the UK to Thailand via DHL.

It really boils down to the reasons behind the need, the holder wouldn't be able to leave Thailand on that passport, you have indicated that the passport currently in possession is from a different country.

Sorry for not being clear. Thai passport exited UK and arrived in Thailand but no visa to come back to UK hence need British passport.

Thanks everyone for the responses BTW.

From what I'm reading this is legal and in this case it's not a scam.

Eh?

So it is Thai national? So they went to the UK on a visa but have a UK passport? Can't see the problem then. They "forgot" it wink.png

RAZZZ

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Many countries allow that. It can be very handy for business travelers to have two passport, one to travel on and one to apply a for a visa on while traveing. It can also be necesarry if you want to travel to lets say Israel and Iran. Iran is not going to be happy with an Israelian visa in your passport.

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The reason for sending the paspsort is important.

If a person sends a passport to the UK to obtain a visa for Thailand while he is in Thailand on a different passport it is not allowed and immigration will not be amused.

That's definitely not true. I entered Thailand without a visa and got my 30 days. During these 30 days I have somebody send my other passport with a one year multiple entry non-B visa to Thailand. This Monday I went to the immigration office and presented both passports and told them that I will exit on one passport and reenter on the other passport. They checked both passports and told me to go ahead. I exit Thailand by land crossing, got my Cambodian visa in the same passport, u-turn, exit Cambodia and went to Thai immigration. There I presented the passport with the multiple entry visa and reenter Thailand. No issues at all. Both passports are the same nationality, no double citizenship.

Fatfather

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That is a different situation from what Mario wrote/intended, since you were not in the country on the passport/visa/visa exempt that was sent to Thailand, and you also did not exit the country on that passport.
... while he is in Thailand on a different passport.....

What got I wrong?

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I am sorry, I stand corrected. I don't see the problem as well, immigration doesn't even need to know.

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The reason for sending the paspsort is important.

 

If a person sends a passport to the UK to obtain a visa for Thailand while he is in Thailand on a different passport it is not allowed and immigration will not be amused. 

That's definitely not true. I entered Thailand without a visa and got my 30 days. During these 30 days I have somebody send my other passport with a one year multiple entry non-B visa to Thailand. This Monday I went to the immigration office and presented both passports and told them that I will exit on one passport and reenter on the other passport. They checked both passports and told me to go ahead. I exit Thailand by land crossing, got my Cambodian visa in the same passport, u-turn, exit Cambodia and went to Thai immigration. There I presented the passport with the multiple entry visa and reenter Thailand. No issues at all. Both passports are the same nationality, no double citizenship.

Fatfather

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Err...can you explain how you have two passports from the same country? Posted Image

 

To get back to the OP...a few years ago...the British "cheap charlies" of Samui, Pattaya etc who were too lazy or too skint to fly out of the country to renew there non-"o's" used to post their passports back to the UK...I don't think you can get away with this now with the new computer system at immigration..

 

 

RAZZ

 

 

Working world wide makes it sometimes necessary to apply for a visa whilst abroad. Usually these jobs require to have two or more passports

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Hi, Instead of asking on here ( you tend to get a lot of conflicting advice that will confuse you) for important things where legality is at stake surely it would be better to get the answer straight from the horses mouth and ask UKPA / UK Police and / or UK Thai embassy. Ask all 3, get the same answer and there you go!!!

Cheers

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The UK government makes you order new passports from Hong Kong and sends them to Thailand by DHL, so the actual sending of a UK passport by courier into Thailand is definitely legal.

And since, in the OPs case, the holder is a dual-national, and didn't use the UK passport to get a new Visa for Thailand, and won't be leaving Thailand on the passport (but using it to re-enter the UK just), it's all good.

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I read it differently Basil, as the OP asked about posting the passport to them, I assumed the passport was in the UK but the owner wasn't.

Likewise I don't know the definitive answer, but I do know you cannot apply to the UK to renew your passport from Thailand, but in the case of just sending a passport from the UK to Thailand I don't see an issue, after all the Passport Agency sends new passports from the UK to Thailand via DHL.

It really boils down to the reasons behind the need, the holder wouldn't be able to leave Thailand on that passport, you have indicated that the passport currently in possession is from a different country.

Sorry for not being clear. Thai passport exited UK and arrived in Thailand but no visa to come back to UK hence need British passport.

Thanks everyone for the responses BTW.

From what I'm reading this is legal and in this case it's not a scam.

I have a NZ passport & when I renew it (like 2 months ago) I send the application direct to the NZ Immigration by post & they courier the new passport straight to me. Does that answer your question?

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At Helsinki Airport I was picked up in the security check because they saw two Thai passports of my wife's while looking at the hand luggage and suspected some criminality, saying it is not normal for one person to have more than one passport. So I told them she actually had 3 with her and I had 2. My wife had old passports with US and UK visas in them respectively and I had valid 2 British ones. LOL. I have couriered one passport out of Thailand to get a Mongolian visa that in those days was only available in Beijing with no problem. As mentioned above, the only way of getting a new British passport in Thailand is to have it couriered from HK.

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If you want to use the passport in Thailand you are going to have a problem due to you not having a Thai entry stamp that would be in your other passport so you would be unable to leave Thailand on that passport, having it couriered should not be a problem but using for exit out of Thailand would be. You could exit on the passport with the entry stamp and then enter Thailand again on the other one if you want too.

Had the same type problem. My New Zealand passport stolen Pattaya applied new at the embassy BKK and it had to come from New Zealand in the mean time I had a flight out for New Zealand and tried to go out on my UK one, no chance as no entry stamp in it and had to go out on a New Zealand one. My new passport was sent by EMS no problem but had to get a copy entry stamp in at emigration from when I arrived, they did this no problem and I left on my new one.

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The UK government makes you order new passports from Hong Kong and sends them to Thailand by DHL, so the actual sending of a UK passport by courier into Thailand is definitely legal.

And since, in the OPs case, the holder is a dual-national, and didn't use the UK passport to get a new Visa for Thailand, and won't be leaving Thailand on the passport (but using it to re-enter the UK just), it's all good.

Thanks Mike.

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I read it differently Basil, as the OP asked about posting the passport to them, I assumed the passport was in the UK but the owner wasn't.

Likewise I don't know the definitive answer, but I do know you cannot apply to the UK to renew your passport from Thailand, but in the case of just sending a passport from the UK to Thailand I don't see an issue, after all the Passport Agency sends new passports from the UK to Thailand via DHL.

It really boils down to the reasons behind the need, the holder wouldn't be able to leave Thailand on that passport, you have indicated that the passport currently in possession is from a different country.

Sorry for not being clear. Thai passport exited UK and arrived in Thailand but no visa to come back to UK hence need British passport.

Thanks everyone for the responses BTW.

From what I'm reading this is legal and in this case it's not a scam.

I have a NZ passport & when I renew it (like 2 months ago) I send the application direct to the NZ Immigration by post & they courier the new passport straight to me. Does that answer your question?

It does if I was a Kiwi ! ;-) But I understand different laws apply to different countries. Anyhow think my question as been answered thanks - it would seem it is legal

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If it is a passport that has not been used to enter Thailand or one you will plan to exit the country with then there is no problem.

I've got a couple of passports and due to the amount of travel I've done over the last 20 years I have often had to have a new one sent by Fed Ex.

Unless there is some obvious scam such as trying to rip of the UK social services then there is no problem.

Always keep the old one with you unless like me you've been to countries where certain passports and stamps are not acceptable.

In the old days of hi jacking I never travelled with my British passport.

Just curious why you didn't want to travel with a British passport during the highjacking days.

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