2006 coup - a major financial setback: Suranand

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2006 coup - a major financial setback: Suranand
Anapat Deechuay,
Pimnara Pradubwit
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- The September 19, 2006, coup not only deprived Thailand of true democracy, it also stalled major investment in the country for a period, Suranand Vejjajiva, secretary-general to PM Yingluck Shinawatra, said yesterday on the seventh anniversary of the ousting of her brother, Thaksin.

Suranand used the occasion to stress the importance of the government's proposed Bt2-trillion transport-infrastructure investment project. Lack of infrastructure investment since the coup meant that Thailand had fallen behind, he said.

Deputy PM Phongthep Thepkanjana said the coup was a good lesson for Thais and showed them the damage the putsch had caused to the country. He said unlike a democracy, other political systems did not have self-correcting mechanisms. The world community, he added, was moving towards democracy, as military rule created difficulties in trading with other nations.

A group of 80 red-shirt anti-coup demonstrators, led by Chulalongkorn University academic Suda Rangkupan, held a commemoration in front of the Parliament yesterday and accused the Abhisit Vejjajiva administration of using the 2006 coup to piggyback its way to power.

Suda urged the government to pass the amnesty bill quickly so political prisoners could be freed, and also called on it to amend the Constitution, including ending the system of appointing senators.


-- The Nation 2013-09-20

[jaidam]

Suranand ought to have balanced his rant by warning of the dangers of a PM resigning and then seizing power later without elections or royal consent, not to mention the thousands of extra-judicial murders he ordered and the billions he stole. By omitting the facts his words are verging on hate-speech. This is not conducive to the reconciliation the PTP are often bleating about.

[Tatsujin]

Suranand ought to have balanced his rant by warning of the dangers of a PM resigning and then seizing power later without elections or royal consent, not to mention the thousands of extra-judicial murders he ordered and the billions he stole. By omitting the facts his words are verging on hate-speech. This is not conducive to the reconciliation the PTP are often bleating about.

They have no intention of following through on "reconciliation" . . . that goes completely against what they stand for. Themselves.

[LuckyLew]

and 2.2 Trillion in loans is going to be a bonus?

[ballpoint]

"2006 coup - a major financial setback"

It certainly was for his paymaster.

[Mampara]

Stop living in the past, what's done is done, and cant be undone

[noitom]

It's been a money grab ever since the last coup.Thais are always doing coups as a money grab. There's been 18-19 of them.

[tomross46]

Suranand ought to have balanced his rant by warning of the dangers of a PM resigning and then seizing power later without elections or royal consent, not to mention the thousands of extra-judicial murders he ordered and the billions he stole. By omitting the facts his words are verging on hate-speech. This is not conducive to the reconciliation the PTP are often bleating about.

Strange that you find it necessary to cherry pick your "additions" as essential to a discussion by Suranand about the financial repercussions of the 2006 coup and in particular the proposed infrastructure investment.

Just who is verging on hate-speak here?

You must be a new here, and do not know about the corruption and murders. .

[trainman34014]

Headline should read ''Corruption...a major financial setback ''.

[Baerboxer]

Suranand ought to have balanced his rant by warning of the dangers of a PM resigning and then seizing power later without elections or royal consent, not to mention the thousands of extra-judicial murders he ordered and the billions he stole. By omitting the facts his words are verging on hate-speech. This is not conducive to the reconciliation the PTP are often bleating about.

Strange that you find it necessary to cherry pick your "additions" as essential to a discussion by Suranand about the financial repercussions of the 2006 coup and in particular the proposed infrastructure investment.

Just who is verging on hate-speak here?

Jaidam was providing balanced comment to a PR statement issued by Suranand. Unfortunately the PTP propoganda machine like to forget or re-write bits of inconvenient history. I think real history shows a PM who dissolved parliament, and then shortly afterwards tried to sieze and hold on to power without any legality. How can removal of an illegal self-appointed PM be a coup d'etat?

[Bkungbank]

Nobody against 2 trilions project but must transparent.

[55Jay]

Yes, it did. That's not a profound statement. Should of closed his pie hole right there though.

"He said unlike a democracy, other political systems did not have self-correcting mechanisms". That's the real lesson for Thais about coups and "democracy" in Thailand. Another one is, be wary of any politician who denounces something from one side of his mouth but uses it as sales pitch / justification from the other side. Where have we seen that before.

[siampolee]

2006 coup - a major financial setback: Suranand

2006 coup - a major financial setback for my puppet master: Suranand.

This was due to Thaksin my puppet master having to fund a terrorist organisation in an attempt to regain power and his current ongoing stipend payments to our parliamentary puppets to pursue his obsession for absolute power and revenge along with the debt bondage of the Thai people

Many thanks to ballpoint for inspiring me to comment

Edited September 20, 2013 by siampolee

[tingtongteesood]

I would have said the Red Shirt riots were a much larger setback especially financially since they were supposedly costing retailers who co9ldn't open for business 100 million baht per day for 6 weeks not to mention the buikdings they burnt down and the costs of prison ntime and court cases not to mention the cost of the populist policies from the current government for them, set the country back at least 10 years !!

[hellodolly]

2006 coup - a major financial setback: Suranand

2006 coup - a major financial setback for my puppet master: Suranand.

This was due to Thaksin my puppet master having to fund a terrorist organisation in an attempt to regain power and his current ongoing stipend payments to our parliamentary puppets to pursue his obsession for absolute power and revenge along with the debt bondage of the Thai people

Many thanks to ballpoint for inspiring me to comment

Well there is a lot in what you say. But it was also close to when the world economy shut down. Thaksin had nothing to do with the economy in Thailand being so great it was due to the world doing great.

[jayboy]

Suranand ought to have balanced his rant by warning of the dangers of a PM resigning and then seizing power later without elections or royal consent, not to mention the thousands of extra-judicial murders he ordered and the billions he stole. By omitting the facts his words are verging on hate-speech. This is not conducive to the reconciliation the PTP are often bleating about.

Strange that you find it necessary to cherry pick your "additions" as essential to a discussion by Suranand about the financial repercussions of the 2006 coup and in particular the proposed infrastructure investment.

Just who is verging on hate-speak here?

Jaidam was providing balanced comment to a PR statement issued by Suranand. Unfortunately the PTP propoganda machine like to forget or re-write bits of inconvenient history. I think real history shows a PM who dissolved parliament, and then shortly afterwards tried to sieze and hold on to power without any legality. How can removal of an illegal self-appointed PM be a coup d'etat?

Is it only on Thai Visa now that a few meatheads claim there was no coup against Thaksin? Nobody else whether Abhisit, the generals concerned or the international community believes this nonsense.The coup did take place during an election campaign but its objective was to remove Thaksin.It is also dishonest to imply that the human rights abuses during Thaksin's time (particularly the drugs war and harsh repression in the South) were anything to do with the coup - not least because those policies were enthusiastically backed by those that planned the eviction of Thaksin.

Suranand (Abhisit's cousin) is as as far from a ranter as can be imagined - a highly intelligent and articulate man.Incidentally for all you meatheads out there Abhisit himself now concedes the coup was a terrible mistake which set the country back a decade.

[mikemac]

Is it only on Thai Visa now that a few meatheads claim there was no coup against Thaksin? Nobody else whether Abhisit, the generals concerned or the international community believes this nonsense.The coup did take place during an election campaign but its objective was to remove Thaksin.It is also dishonest to imply that the human rights abuses during Thaksin's time (particularly the drugs war and harsh repression in the South) were anything to do with the coup - not least because those policies were enthusiastically backed by those that planned the eviction of Thaksin.

Suranand (Abhisit's cousin) is as as far from a ranter as can be imagined - a highly intelligent and articulate man.Incidentally for all you meatheads out there Abhisit himself now concedes the coup was a terrible mistake which set the country back a decade.

The only reason I would call the coup a "terrible mistake" is because it failed to do what it set out to do, remove the megalomaniac despot from power, the dirty little tyrant is still running the show from outside the country. Sometimes coups are for the better, the only way to rid countries of vermin.

As for referring to a great deal of TV members as meatheads, you should hear what they call you !

[jayboy]

Is it only on Thai Visa now that a few meatheads claim there was no coup against Thaksin? Nobody else whether Abhisit, the generals concerned or the international community believes this nonsense.The coup did take place during an election campaign but its objective was to remove Thaksin.It is also dishonest to imply that the human rights abuses during Thaksin's time (particularly the drugs war and harsh repression in the South) were anything to do with the coup - not least because those policies were enthusiastically backed by those that planned the eviction of Thaksin.

Suranand (Abhisit's cousin) is as as far from a ranter as can be imagined - a highly intelligent and articulate man.Incidentally for all you meatheads out there Abhisit himself now concedes the coup was a terrible mistake which set the country back a decade.

The only reason I would call the coup a "terrible mistake" is because it failed to do what it set out to do, remove the megalomaniac despot from power, the dirty little tyrant is still running the show from outside the country. Sometimes coups are for the better, the only way to rid countries of vermin.

As for referring to a great deal of TV members as meatheads, you should hear what they call you !

It did not fail since the result was precisely that the plotters and their army accomplices aimed for, the relatively painless removal of Thaksin.Thereafter the script was a revised constitution and the election of a government, with Thaksin neutralised, aligned with the establishment power groups.Unfortunately even with the rigged constitution and directed judicial intervention, the plan didn't play out as envisaged because the Thai people didn't agree.In effect the coup had the effect of bolstering Thaksin's hold on power although ironically for him it was to be second hand.I used the term "meathead" carefully because I certainly have no issue with those who loathe everything Thaksin stands for.But it is is just the height of stupidity to argue that Thaksin is somehow the embodiment of the country's problems without recognising the context in which he achieved success.Thailand has become wealthier by far in the last few decades and the old patterns of deference are breaking down.The rural majority and urbamn lower middle class can no longer be patronised in the old way.The Democrats could have been the progressive party capitalising on these developments but could not rise to the challenge, completely tied up with old feudal, corporate and military elites.Thaksin saw the opportunity and made the most of it.

[rubl]

Is it only on Thai Visa now that a few meatheads claim there was no coup against Thaksin? Nobody else whether Abhisit, the generals concerned or the international community believes this nonsense.The coup did take place during an election campaign but its objective was to remove Thaksin.It is also dishonest to imply that the human rights abuses during Thaksin's time (particularly the drugs war and harsh repression in the South) were anything to do with the coup - not least because those policies were enthusiastically backed by those that planned the eviction of Thaksin.

Suranand (Abhisit's cousin) is as as far from a ranter as can be imagined - a highly intelligent and articulate man.Incidentally for all you meatheads out there Abhisit himself now concedes the coup was a terrible mistake which set the country back a decade.

The only reason I would call the coup a "terrible mistake" is because it failed to do what it set out to do, remove the megalomaniac despot from power, the dirty little tyrant is still running the show from outside the country. Sometimes coups are for the better, the only way to rid countries of vermin.

As for referring to a great deal of TV members as meatheads, you should hear what they call you !

It did not fail since the result was precisely that the plotters and their army accomplices aimed for, the relatively painless removal of Thaksin.Thereafter the script was a revised constitution and the election of a government, with Thaksin neutralised, aligned with the establishment power groups.Unfortunately even with the rigged constitution and directed judicial intervention, the plan didn't play out as envisaged because the Thai people didn't agree.In effect the coup had the effect of bolstering Thaksin's hold on power although ironically for him it was to be second hand.I used the term "meathead" carefully because I certainly have no issue with those who loathe everything Thaksin stands for.But it is is just the height of stupidity to argue that Thaksin is somehow the embodiment of the country's problems without recognising the context in which he achieved success.Thailand has become wealthier by far in the last few decades and the old patterns of deference are breaking down.The rural majority and urbamn lower middle class can no longer be patronised in the old way.The Democrats could have been the progressive party capitalising on these developments but could not rise to the challenge, completely tied up with old feudal, corporate and military elites.Thaksin saw the opportunity and made the most of it.

'rigged' constitution? 'old, feudal elites'? A post without those 'catchphrases' would be better received I think.

Anyway, better to be "unprintable" by new corporate elites, old feudal 'puu yai' upcountry, and of course our immensely popular police force.

Interesting in the 'financial setback' is the total disregard for the effect the coup may or may not have had on normal people.

[gerry1011]

Suranand ought to have balanced his rant by warning of the dangers of a PM resigning and then seizing power later without elections or royal consent, not to mention the thousands of extra-judicial murders he ordered and the billions he stole. By omitting the facts his words are verging on hate-speech. This is not conducive to the reconciliation the PTP are often bleating about.

Strange that you find it necessary to cherry pick your "additions" as essential to a discussion by Suranand about the financial repercussions of the 2006 coup and in particular the proposed infrastructure investment.

Just who is verging on hate-speak here?

You must be a new here, and do not know about the corruption and murders. .

I love the "you must be new" standard reply that often comes from the "experienced" posters who seem to believe that they hold the (only)(real) truthful version.

For those who stubornly persist to look at the past instead of looking at the future, we could come up with a standard "you must be old" reply...

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Edited September 22, 2013 by gerry1011