webfact Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Phuket sex show raids not coming – yetPhuket GazettePatong Police Superintendent Chiraphat Pochanaphan says he has received no order to crack down on lewd shows on Soi Bangla. Photo: Gazette filePHUKET: -- The chief of police in Phuket’s premier party town of Patong has confirmed that he has yet to receive any order to launch a crackdown on lewd shows on Soi Bangla.“As soon as we receive such an order, we are willing to do whatever the order demands,” Patong Police Superintendent Chiraphat Pochanaphan told the Phuket Gazette this morning.The news follows reports of Tourism and Sports Minister Somsak Pureesrisak apparently telling at least one reporter on Tuesday that he would order a crackdown on Patong’s renowned “adult entertainment” shows that feature ping-pong balls and other paraphernalia.Yet when speaking to the Gazette at the opening of Phuket’s new Tourist Court on Tuesday (story here), Minister Somsak said he was aware of the tweets posted by global celebrity Rihanna that had sparked worldwide controversy over Patong’s renowned shows (story here) – but would leave the matter in the hands of “the relevant authorities”.“I am aware of the news. The relevant authorities are taking care of it. I have not ordered any local officers to take action about this,” he said.“However, I will raise the issue with Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, and if she decides we should take further action, we will. Patong is a key tourism destination. We are keeping our eyes on it,” Mr Somsak assured.Meanwhile, Col Chiraphat said that his officers rounded up yet another slow loris tout on Soi Bangla early yesterday morning, the third in as many days (story here).Pichet Pimrat, 27, from Phitsanulok, was arrested with a slow loris – a vulnerable and protected species – and a camera at about 2am, said Col Chiraphat.“He was charged with possession of a protected species without a permit,” he said.“This is routine police work. We have not received any special order to enforce this law. Police are on the lookout for animal touts every day,” Col Chiraphat said.“With every arrest of such touts, we hand the slow lorises over to the Environmental Conservation Division at Khao Phra Thaeo Wildlife Sanctuary in Thalang. However, touts keep getting their hands on them somehow,” he said.“These people keep coming to Patong to make money, and we will keep doing our job of arresting them until they are no longer in Phuket,” Col Chiraphat vowed.Source: http://www.phuketgazette.net/phuket_news/2013/Phuket-sex-show-raids-not-coming-yet-22350.html-- Phuket Gazette 2013-09-26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bangkokrick Posted September 26, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted September 26, 2013 The Phuket sex show raids are not coming at all! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Songhua Posted September 26, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted September 26, 2013 Not that I care about the shows one way or the other but, if they are illegal, any order to clamp down needs to come from the PM herself? Is this a joke? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee b Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 They will only tell these places a day or so before they raid anyway, you know just to give them an advanced warning..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retell Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 no they only look for illegal activity if they get an order for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post terry101 Posted September 26, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted September 26, 2013 So now the BIB need to get orders from above to actually perform the work they are paid to do. Ridiculous, but then again TIT... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sawati Posted September 26, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted September 26, 2013 So now you know who profits from the sex industry in Thailand... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retell Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 (edited) So now you know who profits from the sex industry in Thailand... give a hint not the owner of the bar yes i am open for a critics word on that no i never had a sexshow bar in thailand Edited September 26, 2013 by retell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegum Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 So now the BIB need to get orders from above to actually perform the work they are paid to do. Ridiculous, but then again TIT... Col. Chirapat's words are most revealing. It's clear that RTP are simply not in the business of wholesale law enforcement. This is something we already know, of course, but it's remarkable that a senior police officer would articulate it in public. This situation reflects a general mentality in Thai enforcement agencies that if enough of a particular illegal activity is occuring, it loses its illegality. Of course, such a mentality is closely aligned with those people's tendencies to corruption. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He Hoopily Ho Ho Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 “The relevant authorities are taking care of it.” and they should be back from their free midday knee-trembler any time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchybum Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 The Phuket sex show raids are not coming at all! Not even prematurely ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 (edited) chief of police in Phuket [...] I will raise the issue with Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, and if she decides we should take further action, we will. Local policing a ministerial responsibility? Edited September 26, 2013 by Morakot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKangMan Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 no they only look for illegal activity if they get an order for it The "order" usually comes after a rival sex show pays to have their competition raided and shut down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomadJoe Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 So now the BIB need to get orders from above to actually perform the work they are paid to do. Ridiculous, but then again TIT... Col. Chirapat's words are most revealing. It's clear that RTP are simply not in the business of wholesale law enforcement. This is something we already know, of course, but it's remarkable that a senior police officer would articulate it in public. This situation reflects a general mentality in Thai enforcement agencies that if enough of a particular illegal activity is occuring, it loses its illegality. Of course, such a mentality is closely aligned with those people's tendencies to corruption. Both your comments aren't really accurate. If you have ever gone to a nude go-go in Patong with nude dancers or sex shows, you will see they do employ lookouts which every so often alert the staff and dancers to cover up because the police are walking near by. They even did this when my friend, who is a foreign tourist police volunteer when he was in plain clothes. So they do fear getting caught by the police, even if it's to avoid being having to make another on the spot donation of tea money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurentbkk Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 dont kill the golden egg goose ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eezergood Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 The bis sex show they raided a few months ago is still going strong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacChine Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 (edited) So now you know who profits from the sex industry in Thailand... ^^ BIS has a sex show? Bet that's popular. ^ And who is paying for it all? I read a lot of moaning about corruption here but how many are paying the bar fines to get girls ( or boys) I happen to agree- what consenting adults do is their business Prostitution is not illegal, however third party profit from it is. That's the sensible law that is ignored and forms the basis for Thailand's corruption. Let sex workers work, give them safe environments and let them keep their earnings, tax them accordingly. VIOLA !! contributing citizens All this crap about reputation, laughable. Thailand is the world's brothel. Take prostitution out of the equation and see tourist numbers plummet. This is why I have no respect for Thailand- the hypocrisy and lies that are the basis of the culture. ( and yes, I'm using my western standards of morality, which isn't fair. But if they'd just admit it, instead of trying to appear to have western standards to attract money, e Edited September 27, 2013 by MacChine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canman Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 So he's basicly saying: I've not recieved any orders to enforce the law so why should I? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacChine Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 (edited) Special orders, He's saying such are not expected. Why would they, it is a law. Why would he suddenly enforce a law ? Stupid law that targets women anyway, ( who do have all the - meow meow !!) I'd like to incite these workers to rise. "but make them do it illegally and so we can profit from protection...." is what they need to be fighting. Edited September 27, 2013 by MacChine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 It sounded like the PM is waiting for something before she'll fall the axe,, payola maybe? somebody is late with their payments??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangarang Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 “I am aware of the news. The relevant authorities are taking care of it. I have not ordered any local officers to take action about this,” he said.“However, I will raise the issue with Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, and if she decides we should take further action, we will. Patong is a key tourism destination. We are keeping our eyes on it,” Mr Somsak assured. Unbelievable. I know this is Thailand, but wow! If you know there is illegal activities going on, isnt your duty as a police officer to uphold the law and not wait for orders from the PM for something that should be taken care of at the city level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacChine Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 It's grey area, institutionalized. and it is exploiting women specifically. So now the BIB need to get orders from above to actually perform the work they are paid to do. Ridiculous, but then again TIT... Col. Chirapat's words are most revealing. It's clear that RTP are simply not in the business of wholesale law enforcement. This is something we already know, of course, but it's remarkable that a senior police officer would articulate it in public. This situation reflects a general mentality in Thai enforcement agencies that if enough of a particular illegal activity is occuring, it loses its illegality. Of course, such a mentality is closely aligned with those people's tendencies to corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retell Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 just the way it works if they check for helmets you can pass them without a safety belt upsidedown facing backwards while texting and say they got order to check for 2 hours at this intersection it will be exactly 2 hours before and after everything is fine again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atsiii Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 (edited) Phuket sex show raids not 'coming' – yet, But... "We are keeping our eyes on it,” Mr Somsak assured." Edited September 27, 2013 by atsiii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 “With every arrest of such touts, we hand the slow lorises over to the Environmental Conservation Division at Khao Phra Thaeo Wildlife Sanctuary in Thalang. However, touts keep getting their hands on them somehow,” he said. somehow, somehow, somehow...the statement of helpless ineptitude... maybe there is a corrupt Thai official at the Wildlife Sanctuary who turns those Loris's right back in to the touts, just a thought...maybe somehow you are in on it, another thought...I better stop now, last thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emdog Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 "We're keeping our eyes on it" (and our hands in it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertson468 Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Phuket sex show raids not 'coming' – yet, But... "We are keeping our eyes on it,” Mr Somsak assured." Alternative interpretation: Phuket sex show raids not 'coming' - yet. But we are keeping our eyes watching it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozyjon Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 I'm in Patong right now with my family from Australia, my 89 year old mum my sister and three children,,, upon entering or leaving the Shopping center the Ping Pong touts crowd around us,,, the children are asking me to explain,,,, my sister chose Patong for convenience but it's not the best place for families to holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrens54 Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 I don't want to sound like a "killjoy" BUT........ If you have a Mother, Wife, Sister, Daughter or even a Son or Brother, would you enjoy having them perform these acts on stage so that a few people who probably can not either find anyone to have a sexual relationship with (unless they pay for it) or perhaps they just just simply are unable to "hold up" their END of the action? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchybum Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 I don't want to sound like a "killjoy" BUT........ If you have a Mother, Wife, Sister, Daughter or even a Son or Brother, would you enjoy having them perform these acts on stage so that a few people who probably can not either find anyone to have a sexual relationship with (unless they pay for it) or perhaps they just just simply are unable to "hold up" their END of the action? What a terrible thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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