diyer Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Saturday drove from Phanom Sarakham to Chachongsao, then Sunday Phanom Sarakham to Rayong. Never had a problem with traffic or flooding! Where does this information come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 These floods are not natural. They are man made. When you block the natural flow of water, it will cause floods. The construction of poorly planed roads, housing development, industrial parks, and air ports; block the natural flow of water. These disasters, could have been reduced if there had been honest Environmental Impact Statements, made by honest organizations, and approved by honest people. In many cases, not just in Thailand, politicians only care about their bank accounts and not the citizens. alt=coffee1.gif width=32 height=24> +1 mahk mahk As usual, Issan farmers getting, literally, hosed. Amazing, considering they voted in this administration. Oh dear - hope this won't reduce the rice harvest this year - the subsidies are ready and waiting.... Sorry I believe you made a mistake. It should read Oh dear - hope this won't reduce the rice harvest this year - the subsidies are ready and waiting for wasting. Hope you don't mind the change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Was planing to ride bike from Pattaya to Khon Kaen on Thursday next week... anybody know if 331 upto 304 and then Hwy 2 is safe ?? Go via the airport, taking 7, 9, 1, 2 it may slow just after the airport and you will probably queue around Saraburi - but you will stay dry. (Take 4 x 20 notes and 4 x 10 Baht coins for the tolls) Bikes on tollways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperylobster Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Dry as a bone up here in Udon.... beautiful, cool weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonray Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 These floods are not natural. They are man made. When you block the natural flow of water, it will cause floods. The construction of poorly planed roads, housing development, industrial parks, and air ports; block the natural flow of water. These disasters, could have been reduced if there had been honest Environmental Impact Statements, made by honest organizations, and approved by honest people. In many cases, not just in Thailand, politicians only care about their bank accounts and not the citizens. Man made or natural?the problem is:floods are everywhere including countries with very well planned roads,where they made environmental impact studies etc. I am now in Singapore - yesterday they had flash floods in big part of the city,one month ago important trans-island highway was cut by flood,and in couple of weeks they will have annual flood right in the city center - Orchard Rd. you want to enjoy this view - come here and have a look. This is subequitorial region with torrential,tropical rains. If you do not like it - move to Sahara or Gobi. Or buy umbrela... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patronus Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Saturday drove from Phanom Sarakham to Chachongsao, then Sunday Phanom Sarakham to Rayong. Never had a problem with traffic or flooding! Where does this information come from? Probably, the same person who is advising you on tax/pensions ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 These floods are not natural. They are man made. When you block the natural flow of water, it will cause floods. The construction of poorly planed roads, housing development, industrial parks, and air ports; block the natural flow of water. These disasters, could have been reduced if there had been honest Environmental Impact Statements, made by honest organizations, and approved by honest people. In many cases, not just in Thailand, politicians only care about their bank accounts and not the citizens. Ironically, its possible that if all the construction would have been carried out on land that didn't flood, the price would have been so prohibitive, the factories wouldn't have come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julemanden Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Was planing to ride bike from Pattaya to Khon Kaen on Thursday next week... anybody know if 331 upto 304 and then Hwy 2 is safe ?? It's not safe, flooded or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisrazz Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 These floods are not natural. They are man made. When you block the natural flow of water, it will cause floods. The construction of poorly planed roads, housing development, industrial parks, and air ports; block the natural flow of water. These disasters, could have been reduced if there had been honest Environmental Impact Statements, made by honest organizations, and approved by honest people. In many cases, not just in Thailand, politicians only care about their bank accounts and not the citizens. Man made or natural?the problem is:floods are everywhere including countries with very well planned roads,where they made environmental impact studies etc. I am now in Singapore - yesterday they had flash floods in big part of the city,one month ago important trans-island highway was cut by flood,and in couple of weeks they will have annual flood right in the city center - Orchard Rd. you want to enjoy this view - come here and have a look. This is subequitorial region with torrential,tropical rains. If you do not like it - move to Sahara or Gobi. Or buy umbrela... Don't be ridiculous, it's far easier to make snide comments aimed at the people who are suffering losses, whilst sitting at a pc with your superiority complex in full flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamspartacus Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 These floods are not natural. They are man made. When you block the natural flow of water, it will cause floods. The construction of poorly planed roads, housing development, industrial parks, and air ports; block the natural flow of water. These disasters, could have been reduced if there had been honest Environmental Impact Statements, made by honest organizations, and approved by honest people. In many cases, not just in Thailand, politicians only care about their bank accounts and not the citizens. Did anyone think to 'phone the Dutch ? They know a bit about lowlands and canals/waterways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I dunno about swamped but there's actually no water here (75km north of Roi-Et). It is cool and overcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggold Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 The story is incomplete as there's no insightful comment from Plod, the man who really knows. He knows nothing! Just a big mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 These floods are not natural. They are man made. When you block the natural flow of water, it will cause floods. The construction of poorly planed roads, housing development, industrial parks, and air ports; block the natural flow of water. These disasters, could have been reduced if there had been honest Environmental Impact Statements, made by honest organizations, and approved by honest people. In many cases, not just in Thailand, politicians only care about their bank accounts and not the citizens. Did anyone think to 'phone the Dutch ? They know a bit about lowlands and canals/waterways. Welcome to Thaivisa forum. In 2011 when there was more serious flooding, many people suggested assistance from the Dutch who have a good history of water control, albeit much to do with the North Sea. However, the powers that be in Thailand poo pooed the idea since Thais know as much as the Dutch about water control, in fact, they also have water propellant systems that the Dutch don't know about. The PTP have the flooding under control, as we are reminded frequently by Yingluck and Plodprasop and this time they are allowing the eastern areas to have their share of floods, thus sparing the central and lower north for the time being. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longtooth Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 The Japanese factories must be reaching their threshold of pain with Thailand. Tokyo will be pulling the plug soon. Hope not. That would mean more water! Radio-active, too! If Chiangrai ever gets that railway, move industry up here. High and dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spare Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I've been driving around a bit. No major road/highway are flooded or got cut off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diyer Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Was planing to ride bike from Pattaya to Khon Kaen on Thursday next week... anybody know if 331 upto 304 and then Hwy 2 is safe ?? It's not safe, flooded or not 304 was flooded near the mountain pass last week, only passable by wagons and pick up trucks. Hundreds of stranded motor bikes. Police were actually encouraging pick up trucks to take stranded cyclists in the back to increase their weight. 0.75 metre deep. A bit of a hairy drive. Saw a few tankers capsized that had been washed away. The 2 was clear and fine from Nakhon Ratchasima. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diyer Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Saturday drove from Phanom Sarakham to Chachongsao, then Sunday Phanom Sarakham to Rayong. Never had a problem with traffic or flooding! Where does this information come from? Probably, the same person who is advising you on tax/pensions ! You must be one of those seen it all, done it all, know it all's. Jeez, don't know what your problem is, but I bet it's hard to pronounce it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaimat Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 These floods are not natural. They are man made. When you block the natural flow of water, it will cause floods. The construction of poorly planed roads, housing development, industrial parks, and air ports; block the natural flow of water. These disasters, could have been reduced if there had been honest Environmental Impact Statements, made by honest organizations, and approved by honest people. In many cases, not just in Thailand, politicians only care about their bank accounts and not the citizens. Man made or natural?the problem is:floods are everywhere including countries with very well planned roads,where they made environmental impact studies etc.I am now in Singapore - yesterday they had flash floods in big part of the city,one month ago important trans-island highway was cut by flood,and in couple of weeks they will have annual flood right in the city center - Orchard Rd. you want to enjoy this view - come here and have a look. This is subequitorial region with torrential,tropical rains. If you do not like it - move to Sahara or Gobi. Or buy umbrela... Comparing flash flood problems of one city to an almost total lack or preparedness for a whole, large region is a fairly poor analogy, though a logic that the Thaksin regime no doubt shares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colabamumbai Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Just shows the lack of insight and study by the Federal and local Governments on this recurring issue. No one in This country seems to care about anything including the fair citizens of this land. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phaka2 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 These floods are not natural. They are man made. When you block the natural flow of water, it will cause floods. The construction of poorly planed roads, housing development, industrial parks, and air ports; block the natural flow of water. These disasters, could have been reduced if there had been honest Environmental Impact Statements, made by honest organizations, and approved by honest people. In many cases, not just in Thailand, politicians only care about their bank accounts and not the citizens. Behind my home in Rayong was a natural flood plain that was filled with thousands of truckloads of earth and gravel in preparation for building condos. Anyone could see that this was a disaster waiting to happen and now both up and down the river there has been tremendous flooding where there had been none before. Your post is dead on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrwebb8825 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 makes me wonder if Plod is in league with TAT and all the temp relocated thais that are spending money on hotels and guesthouses will be counted as "Tourism revenue" to keep the numbers looking good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maingmoom Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 These floods are not natural. They are man made. When you block the natural flow of water, it will cause floods. The construction of poorly planed roads, housing development, industrial parks, and air ports; block the natural flow of water. These disasters, could have been reduced if there had been honest Environmental Impact Statements, made by honest organizations, and approved by honest people. In many cases, not just in Thailand, politicians only care about their bank accounts and not the citizens. You are right, but you forgot a total mismanagement on the dams. They let them get complete full and release water at the worst possible time, instead of doing it before. It is of course hard to see if they were doing it at the right time. I mean if no rain had come then they would have been right. Now they are wrong because they held back to not add to the flooding only to have to release it during flooding because more rain came. These dams are not as big as the ones that help Bangkok. They hold 80% of all capacity in Thailand (south excluded). Small dams fill up quickly. This is monsoon time so rain should have been expected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonray Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 These floods are not natural. They are man made. When you block the natural flow of water, it will cause floods. The construction of poorly planed roads, housing development, industrial parks, and air ports; block the natural flow of water. These disasters, could have been reduced if there had been honest Environmental Impact Statements, made by honest organizations, and approved by honest people. In many cases, not just in Thailand, politicians only care about their bank accounts and not the citizens. Man made or natural?the problem is:floods are everywhere including countries with very well planned roads,where they made environmental impact studies etc. I am now in Singapore - yesterday they had flash floods in big part of the city,one month ago important trans-island highway was cut by flood,and in couple of weeks they will have annual flood right in the city center - Orchard Rd. you want to enjoy this view - come here and have a look. This is subequitorial region with torrential,tropical rains. If you do not like it - move to Sahara or Gobi. Or buy umbrela... Don't be ridiculous, it's far easier to make snide comments aimed at the people who are suffering losses, whilst sitting at a pc with your superiority complex in full flow. Today news from Malaysia: Cameron Highlands - very touristic place. They have big dam there.Yesterday they had to release water from it to prevent it from burst;causing FLOOD downstream. 3 people killed including 2 foreigners. Floods are everywhere;in Malaysia they have very competent flood managment.One of TV members works for them.may be he will give us detailed account of this disaster. @chrisrazz - get yourself couple of Singhas and relax a bit...l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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