jbrain Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 HeijoshinCool, unlike myself I suspect that you have never come close to a terrorist attack. I was minutes away from being blown up by the IRA in Guildford in 1974; the friend I was going to meet was already in the Horse and Groom when the bomb exploded. I was travelling on the tube on the morning of 7th July 2005. We in the UK have lived with the terrorist threat for far longer than most in the Western world; we know that not every bomb can be stopped. As the IRA said after failing to kill Thatcher with the Brighton bomb in 1984: "Today we were unlucky, but remember we only have to be lucky once. You will have to be lucky always." But we also appreciate sensible precautions to reduce the risk. Maybe you can remind us then how many bomb attacks, or even attempts, there have been in Bangkok in the past. There was the Iranian blokes that blew themselves up, there was the New years bombs a few years back, there's been plenty, as I recall So two, is plenty these days ? What 7by7 was talking about was more like 2 a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Two examples for those who, like jbrain, either never knew or have forgotten:2006 Bangkok bombings2012 Bangkok bombings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Maybe logic suggests it..but dont confuse logic with thai logic. Thai logic? There are hardly any toilets at central London tube stations either. Hardly any? I think that you will find there are none. Wrong. http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/toilets-map.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 So two, is plenty these days ? What 7by7 was talking about was more like 2 a week. Three examples spread over 31 years is not two a week! Even at the height of the IRA campaign, the UK did not suffer attacks of that frequency. Probably due to sensible precautions such as removing easy access to obvious hiding places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrain Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Two examples for those who, like jbrain, either never knew or have forgotten: 2006 Bangkok bombings 2012 Bangkok bombings So again, that is two in seven years time, I think most countries in Europe had two bomb events in the past 7 years. Do they also no toilets in the train stations for that reason ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) Maybe logic suggests it..but dont confuse logic with thai logic. Thai logic? There are hardly any toilets at central London tube stations either. Hardly any? I think that you will find there are none. Wrong. http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/toilets-map.pdf As other posters, including yourself, have previously said, there are some; but not many. Also, as said before, those that do exist are usually staffed and you have to pay to use them. From that list: 11 tube stations have toilets. There are 270 stations on the tube network. That's just 4% with toilets. The others on the list, not that there are many, are all in national rail stations or bus stations. Edited October 28, 2013 by 7by7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrain Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 So two, is plenty these days ? What 7by7 was talking about was more like 2 a week. Three examples spread over 31 years is not two a week! Even at the height of the IRA campaign, the UK did not suffer attacks of that frequency. Probably due to sensible precautions such as removing easy access to obvious hiding places. Three is the number of examples you gave. I count 24 Bomb attacks of the IRA only between 1990 and 2001, and that is not included attacks from other terrorist organizations during the same period. This is not comparable to Thailand in the slightest, so saying that is the reason why there are no toilets at the MRT stations is pure shit. And that is pun intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totster Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Not just a Thai thing. BOOM !! We have a winner !!! totster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 7by7 Posted October 28, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2013 Two examples for those who, like jbrain, either never knew or have forgotten: 2006 Bangkok bombings 2012 Bangkok bombings So again, that is two in seven years time, I think most countries in Europe had two bomb events in the past 7 years. Do they also no toilets in the train stations for that reason ? I believe so; yes. Certainly I have never found a toilet on the Paris Metro; though I do believe there are some. But we are getting side tracked. The Thai bashers have tried to use this topic to, yet again, prove their superiority over the Thais. Myself, and others, are simply pointing out that the lack of toilets on mass transit stations is not a Thai thing; it's normal worldwide. For many reasons, security being one of them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 As other posters, including yourself, have previously said, there are some; but not many. Also, as said before, those that do exist are usually staffed and you have to pay to use them. From that list: 11 tube stations have toilets. There are 270 stations on the tube network. That's just 4% with toilets. The others on the list, not that there are many, are all in national rail stations or bus stations. Yes. I was just the correcting the poster who incorrectly stated that there are "none". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 So two, is plenty these days ? What 7by7 was talking about was more like 2 a week. Three examples spread over 31 years is not two a week! Even at the height of the IRA campaign, the UK did not suffer attacks of that frequency. Probably due to sensible precautions such as removing easy access to obvious hiding places. Three is the number of examples you gave. I count 24 Bomb attacks of the IRA only between 1990 and 2001, and that is not included attacks from other terrorist organizations during the same period. This is not comparable to Thailand in the slightest, so saying that is the reason why there are no toilets at the MRT stations is pure shit. And that is pun intended. I've no idea why there have been no bomb attacks reported in Bangkok due to the troubles in the Deep South, but that unrest certainly makes Ulster look like a picnic. I'd not like to be in the first MRT Station that was bombed. SC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bifftastic Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 The main reason why there are no toilets in stations, is because they're stations. How much time do people usually spend at stations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrry Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 (edited) The main reason why there are no toilets in stations, is because they're stations. How much time do people usually spend at stations? How much time do people spend between entering a station and leaving a station? Stations are just one part of the system. In australia the WA Deparment of family services (or whatever it is called now) refused to allow people to have toilets even though their clients were families mostly mothers who had to accompanied by children and had to wait several hours there often. Edited October 29, 2013 by harrry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappie1207 Posted October 29, 2013 Author Share Posted October 29, 2013 The main reason why there are no toilets in stations, is because they're stations. How much time do people usually spend at stations? How much time do people spend between entering a station and leaving a station? Stations arfe just one part of the system. All I know is in this country where pollution is very high, getting a dodgy tummy can happen instantly and without warning, and it doesn't matter how long you are at the station, if you need to go YOU NEED TO GO!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bifftastic Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 If the frequency of the service is, say, three minutes, then the answer would be about six minutes (time to buy a ticket and get to the platform). Then a journey, which in an urban environment is usually counted in minutes rather than hours. Then you leave the system and are out in the big wide world again, where you can look for a toilet. Mainline services, which normally take you from city to city, and can take hours, usually provide toilets on the trains and in the stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bifftastic Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 The main reason why there are no toilets in stations, is because they're stations. How much time do people usually spend at stations? How much time do people spend between entering a station and leaving a station? Stations arfe just one part of the system. All I know is in this country where pollution is very high, getting a dodgy tummy can happen instantly and without warning, and it doesn't matter how long you are at the station, if you need to go YOU NEED TO GO!!!!! Pollution gives you a dodgy tummy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnniey Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Why are there none on any BTS station? Sent from my GT-I9152 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomatopo Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 There aren't a lot of stand-alone public toilet facilities here, anywhere. There are (obviously) smallish private toilet facilities within the subway and skytrain stations; you often see employees, and in-station vendors, ducking in to these. Many/most of the MRT stations are designed with significant retail space on the mezzanine and/or ticketing levels, but only a few stations (Sukhumvit, for one) have opened to date. I am pretty sure there are meant to be public toilets, perhaps on a paid ( 2 ~ 5 baht ) basis, available. I think most of us have learned to rely on toilets in attached/nearby public buildings/offices/shopping malls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWizardofRnR Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 (edited) Even the NYC subways have one at every station ,when I grew up in B'klyn.NY Terrible planning! by whoever designed Bkk train system! Edited October 29, 2013 by TheWizardofRnR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Why are there none on any BTS station? Sent from my GT-I9152 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Because they are train stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiinasia Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 WHY are there no TOILETS at any MRT stations? Because the station designers already had one! Doh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWizardofRnR Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 (edited) Why are there none on any BTS station? Sent from my GT-I9152 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Because they are train stations. So you never use the bathroom in a bar or restaurant ? Cause you don't <deleted> nor pee ,where you eat or drink? Edited November 5, 2013 by metisdead Oversize font reset to normal. Do not post using overly large font. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrry Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 New York is almost as bad. Toilets are not generally available in the New York City Subway system. 77 of the 468 stations have restrooms, most of these are express stations and terminals at the ends of lines. Only a few of the major stations have restrooms. In Manhattan these include: http://toilet-guru.com/subway.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Good luck at the airport also ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loles Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 BTS stations also have not any toilets, and bus stations have not also, and you can't piss in taxi too. Sorry guy but everyone knows there are not toilets in MRT stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Why are there none on any BTS station? Sent from my GT-I9152 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Because they are train stations. So you never use the bathroom in a bar or restaurant ? Cause you don't <deleted> nor pee ,where you eat or drink? Why do they not have bars and restaurants in the MRT Stations? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brit1984 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 when venturing outside the home, plan toilet stops in advance or wear nappies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMalarkey Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Because you might miss your train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennypowers Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 There are toilets but they are private. You have to go to the desk and ask, don't ask security. My pregnant wife has to pee every 20 minutes used one the other day at Hua Lampong on the way back from China Town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brit1984 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Why are there none on any BTS station? Sent from my GT-I9152 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Because they are train stations. So you never use the bathroom in a bar or restaurant ? Cause you don't <deleted> nor pee ,where you eat or drink? Why do they not have bars and restaurants in the MRT Stations? if they had swimming pools you could take a sneeky pee while pretending to swim 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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