webfact Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 "40 Senators Group" boycotting today’s amnesty bill debateBy English NewsBANGKOK, Nov 8 – Thailand’s Upper House has rescheduled its debate on the amnesty bill to 2 pm today amid the insistence by scores of senators to stay away from the meeting.Senate Speaker Nikom Wairatpanich abruptly called a Senate meeting this afternoon to speed up deliberation of the controversial bill which was passed by the House of Representatives last Friday.The Senate is required to finish deliberation of the bill within 60 days after receiving it from the Lower House.Paiboon Nititawan, an appointed senator, said the group of 40 senators will boycott today’s meeting but will follow the original schedule to meet next Monday as agreed and announced by the Senate whips.He said the Senate speaker who bowed to government pressure must take responsibility for his action which could lead to strong protests from senators.The amnesty bill, if rejected by the Senate, will be frozen for 180 days after which the Lower House is empowered to raise it again for deliberation. (MCOT online news)-- TNA 2013-11-08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 The push for amnesty is over. Now comes the shove. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I wonder what these guys hope to win with this.. extending the protest.. showing their muscles ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggold Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Are these 40 appointed Senators from PTP by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casindonet Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Why can't they just do their job & vote "NO" to the bill? It's much better than not doing anything. Sent from my GT-I9200 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I wonder what these guys hope to win with this.. extending the protest.. showing their muscles ? I think there is a background story we don't know. I guess there is more than extending the protests or showing their muscles....But that is just an uneducated guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WAERTH Posted November 8, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2013 What the article is missing is the following.These 40 are worried that many senators will not show up today because they were thinking it was on Monday as already agreed a week ago. So the PTP would fly in their loyal senators and ramrod the bill through the senate. If these 40 do not show up as well, the senate has no quorum and cannot debate what to eat for lunch even. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post waza Posted November 8, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2013 What the article is missing is the following. These 40 are worried that many senators will not show up today because they were thinking it was on Monday as already agreed a week ago. So the PTP would fly in their loyal senators and ramrod the bill through the senate. If these 40 do not show up as well, the senate has no quorum and cannot debate what to eat for lunch even. Thaksin you magnificent bastard, I read your book. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 What the article is missing is the following. These 40 are worried that many senators will not show up today because they were thinking it was on Monday as already agreed a week ago. So the PTP would fly in their loyal senators and ramrod the bill through the senate. If these 40 do not show up as well, the senate has no quorum and cannot debate what to eat for lunch even. What absolute rubbish. Nothing will get in the way of a Thai's lunch. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCFC Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 These 40 senators had plans already for Friday afternoon, on the golf course or with their gigs. They're upset coz they have to change plans Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coma Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I am with them. I wouldn't want my friday afternoon round of golf disturbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Nikom to call another Senate meeting Saturday if Friday meeting abortedBANGKOK: -- Senate Speaker Nikom Wairatpanij said Friday morning that if a Senate meeting could not be held on the day, he would call for another meeting Saturday.Nikom said he would wait until 2 pm for the Senate to make quorum.The Group of 40 boycotted the meeting, saying they wanted to wait until Monday to debate the amnesty bill as in the initial schedule.Deputy Senate Speaker Surachai Liangboonlert, who belongs to the Group of 40, said he expected the meeting would be held Monday as in the initial schedule. -- The Nation 2013-11-08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilly Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Nikom said he would wait until 2 pm for the Senate to make quorum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Oh dear. Are these idiots really going to prevent a quorom? Does anyone anywhere in this country understand the concept of public service and sacrifice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 What the article is missing is the following. These 40 are worried that many senators will not show up today because they were thinking it was on Monday as already agreed a week ago. So the PTP would fly in their loyal senators and ramrod the bill through the senate. If these 40 do not show up as well, the senate has no quorum and cannot debate what to eat for lunch even. Thaksin you magnificent bastard, I read your book. He's only following a patton. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
givenall Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Why can't they just do their job & vote "NO" to the bill? It's much better than not doing anything. Sent from my GT-I9200 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app One thing is for sure none can be trusted, especially the PM when she said no more amnesty bill. They probably will try to sneak it thru in a different way maybe calling it freedom bill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jcb2001 Posted November 8, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2013 Sounds like this "Group of 40" are not going to let the gov't ramrod this amnesty bill down their throats at the demands of a fugitive criminal. Good on them! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLock Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Why can't it wait till Monday anyway? Who insisted that it had to be done today I wonder? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 The problem these Senators and the PTP have as a whole, they have been pushed into a corner and they don't know how to manage , respond to this kind of treatment from the people of Thailand , the whole shebang was a farce right from the start and the PTP would be well advised to do the right thing by the country and completely drop this Amnesty bill before some will be eating cake . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 A post in violation of fair use policy has been removed as well as the replies containing that post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAERTH Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 On twitter it was said that so far in the past 30 minutes only 67 senators showed up. 8 short of a quorum of 75.The senate head said they will try again tomorrow (saturday) to get the senate together if they cannot get a quorum today.I wonder why he is in a hurry and cannot wait till monday ........... :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Mind you, with the initial debat set for Monday some may have scheduled other activities for today or tomorrow. Some may still be studying the bill, talking with various protest groups, talking with anti-anti people to get a good feeling for what the Thai public feels and wants. What's the hurry anyway? Protests look like a blot on the wonderful achievements of this government, PM Yingluck upset? Oh dear. Are these idiots really going to prevent a quorom?Does anyone anywhere in this country understand the concept of public service and sacrifice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted November 8, 2013 Author Share Posted November 8, 2013 Senate still unable to make quorum for amnesty bill deliberationThe NationBANGKOK: -- One hour has passed but the Senate was still unable to make quorum for a meeting to deliberate the amnesty bill at 3 pm Friday.The meeting was scheduled at 2 pm.At 3 pm, only 67 senators were present in the assembly hall. There are a total of 149 senators so it requires at least 75 senators to make quorum.The Group of 40 has vowed to boycott the meeting.Despite the lack of quorum, the Senate speaker was still waiting for more senators to join the meeting.-- The Nation 2013-11-08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 How time flies. Was it only a few hours ago we had "Nikom said he would wait until 2 pm for the Senate to make quorum." Senate still unable to make quorum for amnesty bill deliberationThe NationBANGKOK: -- One hour has passed but the Senate was still unable to make quorum for a meeting to deliberate the amnesty bill at 3 pm Friday.The meeting was scheduled at 2 pm.At 3 pm, only 67 senators were present in the assembly hall. There are a total of 149 senators so it requires at least 75 senators to make quorum.The Group of 40 has vowed to boycott the meeting.Despite the lack of quorum, the Senate speaker was still waiting for more senators to join the meeting.-- The Nation 2013-11-08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 What the article is missing is the following. These 40 are worried that many senators will not show up today because they were thinking it was on Monday as already agreed a week ago. So the PTP would fly in their loyal senators and ramrod the bill through the senate. If these 40 do not show up as well, the senate has no quorum and cannot debate what to eat for lunch even. These many senators have no phone, no TV and radio and their cave is somewhere where not even a helicopter can land and inform them? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 My observations and understanding. The group of 40 are all appointed senators. Some were worried that the change of date for the consideration of the amnesty bill before the senate was an effort to push the amnesty bill through. In theory no senator is supposed to be partisan. Including the 77 elected senators. In practice this may not be so. I am assuming if the whole senate is present that the amnesty bill will be blocked, but I have been surprised by what happens in Thailand in the past. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab4 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Sounds like this "Group of 40" are not going to let the gov't ramrod this amnesty bill down their throats at the demands of a fugitive criminal. Good on them! Yes like the powerful people they are they are going to delay the deliberation of the bill from today ..........................................................until Monday. Like you say, Good on them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Why can't it wait till Monday anyway? Who insisted that it had to be done today I wonder? The other newspaper quoted the Speaker as sayin an ' outside ' person had been lobbying senators to kill the bill but no clue given as to whom it miht be, not even an inital this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunken Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 The question is: why did the speaker suddenly change the meeting from Monday to today? Who ordered him? It doesn't take much savvy to connect it to the backpedalling PTP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GentlemanJim Posted November 8, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2013 My Theory The Senators are opposition Senators. the Government has been forced in to a corner by the protests and after canceling the other 6 draft bills are left with this one. They (the Government) are doing exactly what they said they would not do....they are interfering with the Senate. The Government have lobbied the Speaker of the Senate to rush the handling of the amnesty bill through, even if it is a no go, because the Government cannot risk the escalation of public opinion and the swelling numbers of protesters that will gather momentum over the weekend. The 40 senators are saying 'ram it' we were timetabled for Monday, that is when we will debate it and if the Government are sitting on hot coals because of their own stupidity then burn baby burn. It is a sweet move and gives Suthep and his Gang the whole weekend to whip the country up into a frenzy of anti-amnesty and anti-corruption. A splendid move, not quite 'mate' but definitely 'check'! 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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