Briton Shot Dead In Pattaya

[britmaveric]

Tax - I usually agree with you, but I don't think that has anything to do with it. It is true there is bias everywhere, but I'd say the vast majority are happy to have farang in thailand and let's face it, take away farang dosh infusion and I dare say Thailand would be worse off economically.

[sriracha john]

A differing amount of money in this report... plus a bit more about the shooters/robbers:

Briton, 47, shot dead in Pattaya

An Englishman was shot dead and robbed by four men on two motorcycles in Pattaya early yesterday morning.

Steven Parkinson, 47, was pronounced dead after being shot twice in the face at 3.20am while riding with a Thai woman around a reservoir at Bang Lamung.

Police said the woman, Sujittra Katekaew, 32, was in shock and that the four men had spared her after she begged them not to shoot.

The killers allegedly took Bt40,000 in cash from her purse, her valuables and an unknown amount of cash from Parkinson's trouser pockets before fleeing.

Sujittra said she could not identify the four men because they wore helmets or hats.

Bang Lamung police chief Colonel Nopphadol Sornsamran said the robbers could have been local teenagers, because they quickly fled the scene and avoided regular police patrols.

- TN

[AlexLah]

Hi all,

Just thinking na.

Did the poor fellow speak understood Thai?

I mean if I was on a motorcycle and a group of Thai's asked me to stop I would do that.

And then take of my helmet, ready to strike anyone that made an attempt to attack me.

Kind regards,

Alex

[Maejo Man]

Hull Daily Mail

Many of them are offshore oil rig workers who got to know Mr Parkinson, who was known as Basher, after he moved there.

Surely not TV Basher??

[Heng]

Hi all,

Just thinking na.

Did the poor fellow speak understood Thai?

I mean if I was on a motorcycle and a group of Thai's asked me to stop I would do that.

And then take of my helmet, ready to strike anyone that made an attempt to attack me.

Kind regards,

Alex

I don't think any UFC moves would have saved the victim in question here.

[taxexile]

my feelings are that there is a wave of resentment , and its fuelled partly by the bad behaviour of a minority , and partly by jealousy of our relative wealth.

the way we are spoken about , and those who understand thai will have experienced the insults spoken by thais under their breath and sometimes blatantly to us , usually with the most charming smile on their face too. insulted for no other reason than our foreigness. usually in the places where there are most foriegners.

the way a lot of foreigners often come off second best in business and in disputes with the police just reinforces to those who already have negative feelings to us that we can be taken advantage of easily.

mix all these feelings in with a town where drinking and prostitution are common along with some of the the character types that run booze and broad type businesses , an inefficient police force , many thousands of relatively uneducated out of town thais who have migrated there in the hope of a better life and is it any wonder that attacks are increasing in frequency.

there are thais who are beginning to feel that their country is being overun by an army of badly behaved beer swilling foriegners willing to throw vast amounts of money at women and land agents .

sure , some will welcome the revenue , but many are beginning to cry .... enough.

the young thugs who carry out these attacks roam around at night , egged on by equally thuggish women , in the hope of some easy money , weve got enough of it , look how we throw it around.

5 or 6 mill for a house , 100 for a two minute taxi ride , 1000 for a few beers , another couple of grand for a woman for a few hours .

if the streets of brighton or blackpool were full of people of another colour , drinking all day in their own bars , bedding our sisters and cousins , pushing up land and property prices , walking the streets giving it large , how do you think the local unemployed males would behave towards them , wouldnt they want a piece of the action , and wouldnt they obtain it any way they could , especially if the police were asleep most of the time.

[britmaveric]

Tax - reminds me of a mate, always used to go to Blackpool and take the piss. Go into the pub with wad of quid and start ordering bottles of champaign. Needless to say he wasn't the most popular lad with the local men there. (quite popular with the ladies though)

I hear what you saying, but I think what you are referring to is a small minority. Most lads are rather low key, sure I've seen the yobbish behaviour you describe, but I think most Thai(s) differentiate. Now if such behaviour started invading small village life I could prob see your point. However for the most part the example you gave is centered in the major cities.

[Mr Ling Noi]

My condolences goes out to the guy, his family and his friends.

I am curious about the coment by INTJ about, "Anyone who knew Steve, although saddened, won't be at all suprised by this."

What does this mean??? If you know him and can shed some light on this situation then please do. if he was a di#k, then i'd like to know, as i and most of us here have met this type, then mabey he had it coming to him (not that he deserved it). But if he was a decent bloke then really i am saddened by this situation, and hope that the guys are arrested (Even if the guy was no good there is no reason for him to die).

I would llike to hear the follow up on this story, so like many others, it dosen't get put on the back burner whenever a new story comes up.

Once again, My condolences to the family and friends, My heart goes out to them!

[Mr Ling Noi]

If it was the same guys from the last incedent (2004) then this is bad, it will hit the press both here and abroad. what i see from the last incedent he was only trying to defend himself and in this case it seems the same.

If some guys came up to me on my bike demanding me to stop i am sure i'd try get the hel_l out of there, if steven knew them from before then sure he would want out of there.

but we still have no real facts on the case, so as i saidd before i hope this does not dissapear as soon as the next storie comes up as i'd lke to know what happens in this case as there are so many like it and with no answers then it is no suprise why people (falang) think the cops do nothing about it.

Can i ask? What ever happened to the killer of the british couple in Kan Chanthaburi (i Think) where the guy was shot and the girl was run over, i never did hear about the man who did it. I know they caught him, ehrn he came back from burma and paid his bail, but what happened then???

Cheers guys,

My Conndolences to the family.

[BlimeyCharlie]

Tax - I usually agree with you, but I don't think that has anything to do with it. It is true there is bias everywhere, but I'd say the vast majority are happy to have farang in thailand and let's face it, take away farang dosh infusion and I dare say Thailand would be worse off economically.

The poor Thai man or woman is not going to be concerened about the economy. Somehow can't see them thinking "I going to stop stealing, robbing and killing as in the long run it will spoil our economy". If they are not getting help from their government then what else have they got. Resentment breads, and so does jealousy.

Lets face it, large orginazed criminal gangs couldn't give a toss. It's the same here in the UK so why should it be any different there.

Lots of people in the UK are resentful over illegal immigrants taking up jobs and property. Resentment, jealousy is everywhere and there is sod all we can do about it.

I will also agree will a post here that Brits in particular need to show a little respect for other countries, not just Thailand. I'm a brit and it confuses me why folks go on holiday to foreign countries and complain about the lack of Fish & Chips.

[cotty230]

Anyone who knew Steve, although saddened, won't be at all suprised by this.

I would like to clarify points, Steve Parkinson (Basher) was a close friend of mine and after reading certain comments on the subject I feel compelled only to reply.

I was surprised to be woken up in the morning after our night out with friends including Steve, to find out that Steve had been gunned down like a dog on his way home, no one deserves that!!! He was not a d*ck (to answer another question) and had many friends here and at home, he enjoyed life to the full and I know for a fact I will miss him.

I can confirm certain points raised by the group:

1. If you knew Steve well enough, you would have known that Steve would sped off to get away from the robbers, he was switched on he would have known it was a robbery. Its a shame he did not stop, they might not have killed him (but we will never know that). I do not think that he needed to understand the Thai language, there intentions where obvious.

2. Two bikes gave chase both bikes had pillion passengers with guns, the robbers had all been wearing full face helmets, therefore cannot be identified.

3. The robbers chased behind them while firing at them, one bike caught up with Steve (like mission impossible as quoted) & pulled along side him shot him twice in the face while he was still riding his bike. His injuries where fatal thats when they both came off the bike, the lady concerned had a gun pointed towards her head while she was robbed and begged to keep her live and the other robbers, robbed him of his personal items while Steve laid dead on the road.

4. Police are investigating the incident that happend in 2004, I was there when this incident happened and Steve had no fear then and did not give into the robbers, he gave chase and although injured himself, he caught the robbers and they got there just rewards. And yes police are well aware of this incident and are following up to see if the robbers have been released from prison.

We do not want Steve just be be another statistic here, we need to ensure that the police are doing everything in their power to apprehend these murderers, which to be fair the police are investigating all leads and are giving alot of attention to it so far.

So lets not forget Steve, so that he is not just a case of "last weeks news"..........

[thaiflyer1]

cotty230...........do you happen to know if he was in the old 7 bar (now "the meeting place") next to the Lek Hotel the night it happened? Only asking because from the photo i saw on the news it looked like a guy i vaguely know who was in there.

Must admit i came home tonight at 11pm down the adjacent Soi and didnt feel comfortable, "teenagers" milling about left, right and centre on bikes..............having women troubles of mine own at the moment so that didnt help.

Condolences to Steves friends and family.

[bulmercke]

Unfortunately I wasn't able to access this web-site from about 21.00 hundred last night until about 24.00 today.....no idea what was goin' on!

In Pattaya 'ride-by' snatchings of jewellery from unsuspecting westerners isn't that uncommon, particularly in those sois linking Pattaya Two road and Beach Road. And I've never, ever heard of more than one motorcycle and two youths involved in any any attempted robbery......but this shooting of Steve Parkinson was completely different.

There were two motor-cycles and four youths involved - who were extremely persistent and determined in their attempt to kill the 'supposed' robbery victim. They even persued him on their motorcycles to ensure the killing. This is not the MO of a normal Pattaya robbery. And the remoteness of the attack suggests they had prior knowledge of Steve Parkinsons movements and were sure of where he would be headed late at night with the assurance their attack would probably be witnessed by no-one.

The robbery took place way out of the normal area of 'operations' where foreigners are most likely to be robbed, and the assailants were extremely persistent in gunning down their victim even when they couldn't have been sure, by any extent, of the amount of money - if any- the victim and his friend might have been carrying with them at that time.

This is almost unheard of in Pattaya.

These guys knew very well who their intended victim was.

I'll bet they had been watching him for days......if not weeks!

Again, may be wrong, but IMHO Steve Parkinson died a HERO.

R.I.P.

Edited May 4, 2006 by bulmercke

[britmaveric]

Cotty230 - cheers mate for the update and please followup on this thread if you learn anything else. Most news gets buried as you are quite correct, but something like this is rather shocking and I think we need resolution especially if this was an intended hit as it seems.

By chance do you know the lady in question and do you think she had any involvement?

Sorry for your loss although I didnt know Steve, I feel for his reles and mates. I hope this comes to a speedy resolution and justice is achieved.

Edited May 4, 2006 by britmaveric

[davethailand]

Oh well .... a sad but truly not unexpected incident in Pattaya .... Pattaya does draw huge amounts of scoundrels ... both Thai and Foriegn ...

Not bashing Pattaya but c'mon guys .... there are 50,000 perm residents and 50,000 bars what would you expect! I'll still pop down for a weekend now and then ...

Hope they get all the folks involved in this!

50000 bars???

Daily Mirror

4 May 2006

THAI BRIT KILLED IN AMBUSH

A BRITISH man was shot dead in an ambush in Thailand yesterday.

Steven Parkinson, 47, was on his motorbike with a bar girl when four men stopped them in the early hours.

He was hit twice in the head but his passenger was unhurt in the attack near sex resort Pattaya.

The gang also took £300 in cash and gems. Police fear it was revenge after he stopped a thief in 2004 - or that the killers were hired by a bitter ex-lover.

Steven, of Hull, recently split from local girl Siriporn Supatra. Their house is now up for sale.

Police have told her not to leave the area. She insisted: "I don't know who would want to kill Steve. He had no enemies.

"But it wasn't me. We were planning to get back together."

.

Hi all,

Just thinking na.

Did the poor fellow speak understood Thai?

I mean if I was on a motorcycle and a group of Thai's asked me to stop I would do that.

And then take of my helmet, ready to strike anyone that made an attempt to attack me.

Kind regards,

Alex

Don't mean siht Alex.

[Fist]

Resentment jealousy? Thais on the whole are the most tolerant people on earth.

Talk like this amazes me.........These are no more than thugs who don't give a hoot who their victim is........in their minds you don't rob a bus if you can rob a mail train......I you guys were in their shoes who would you rob? A Thai or a farang who is most definitely going to have more cash and jewellery on him than the average Thai?

Revenge killing..........If there were large sums of money involved or drugs I doubt the guy would have seen it coming. No way would his companion be around to tell the tale. Unless she set him up.....If she had would she have stayed around? doubt it.

Some idiot sees a farang who isn't going to have any and is ready to have a go.........chances were he was twice the size of the Thai who just let rip, through fear desperation or just plain evil.

I know literally dozens of Thai people personally as I am sure most of you do.........I get no feeling at all of resentment

Thai people in general deserve better than some of the comments I read on here..........This poor guy fell foul of bad luck IMO......most times the guys would have been scared off when he stood up to them or maybe exchanged a few punches ........the guy that did this may well have been out his head on something, too scared to trade punches or just downright evil...............not many Thai I know are like that.

[splitlid]

ummm a bg with so much money on her?????

was she injured at all? the driver shot in the face at high speed and the bike rolls to a gradual stop....i think not.

im going fishing

[perijon]

Unfortunately I wasn't able to access this web-site from about 21.00 hundred last night until about 24.00 today.....no idea what was goin' on!

In Pattaya 'ride-by' snatchings of jewellery from unsuspecting westerners isn't that uncommon, particularly in those sois linking Pattaya Two road and Beach Road. And I've never, ever heard of more than one motorcycle and two youths involved in any any attempted robbery......but this shooting of Steve Parkinson was completely different.

There were two motor-cycles and four youths involved - who were extremely persistent and determined in their attempt to kill the 'supposed' robbery victim. They even persued him on their motorcycles to ensure the killing. This is not the MO of a normal Pattaya robbery. And the remoteness of the attack suggests they had prior knowledge of Steve Parkinsons movements and were sure of where he would be headed late at night with the assurance their attack would probably be witnessed by no-one.

The robbery took place way out of the normal area of 'operations' where foreigners are most likely to be robbed, and the assailants were extremely persistent in gunning down their victim even when they couldn't have been sure, by any extent, of the amount of money - if any- the victim and his friend might have been carrying with them at that time.

This is almost unheard of in Pattaya.

These guys knew very well who their intended victim was.

I'll bet they had been watching him for days......if not weeks!

Again, may be wrong, but IMHO Steve Parkinson died a HERO.

R.I.P.

I think your on the right track Bulmercke, .......English guy beats up young Thai over stolen bike, then has another jailed over stolen necklace.....Young poor Thai's want revenge on rich (as they see it) farang. They organise to have him watched, and send four Thai's on motorbikes to make sure the job is done. Shoot for the head, not the body...MURDER! Get what you can off the bastard and get out of there...robbery a BONUS for what they are being paid. Thai girl is not shot or harmed becoz she is THAI, and a WOMAN. Girl most likely threatened and told not to say anything becoz they no her family. DNA testing will solve case.

[naka]

Uh Howard from PCN told us it was the same people who he banged up last time. Now being a bright lad that you are - can't you make the connection this isn't a coincidence?

You have no proof whatsoever, and you are behaving irrationally

Naka.

[monty]

A very good friend living in the same area came thinks he saw the murderes driving along around the lake on that fatefull night...

On his way home, about a few 100 meters of where Steve was killed, my friend had his sixth sense ring some bells when he saw 4 guys on two motorbikes driving around the lake. A strange way of driving, slowing down to 20 km/hour, looking around kind of nervously, suddenly accelerating etc... Anyways, my friend was a bit apprehensive, so on one of their slowing down cycles (a bit like "pass me if you can") he floored the throttle of his car, passed them and sped away...

He kind of feels it was some teenagers on the prowl, ready to hit on any target which might yield some dosh to go on the booze or ya ba again...

On the other hand, it might indeed be some guys just hanging around knowing that sooner or later Steve was going to pass there on his way home...Guess we just won't know until they get the guys who did it...

[Mobi]

A very good friend living in the same area came thinks he saw the murderes driving along around the lake on that fatefull night...

On his way home, about a few 100 meters of where Steve was killed, my friend had his sixth sense ring some bells when he saw 4 guys on two motorbikes driving around the lake. A strange way of driving, slowing down to 20 km/hour, looking around kind of nervously, suddenly accelerating etc... Anyways, my friend was a bit apprehensive, so on one of their slowing down cycles (a bit like "pass me if you can") he floored the throttle of his car, passed them and sped away...

He kind of feels it was some teenagers on the prowl, ready to hit on any target which might yield some dosh to go on the booze or ya ba again...

On the other hand, it might indeed be some guys just hanging around knowing that sooner or later Steve was going to pass there on his way home...Guess we just won't know until they get the guys who did it...

Another snippet that may have relevance.

I live about five minutes drive from the crime scene.

Late Monday afternoon ( May Day), I was disturbed by a very loud revving of bikes near my house. Upon investigation, I found that a group of youths, maybe about a dozen, had co-opted a piece of vacant land, about 100 metres from my house, and were using it as an improvised speedway track. I have never seen anything like this before in my area, and they were making a heck of a racket. This land is just outside Pong village and quite close to Wat Pong and the local market. Many Thais live in the area and and come and go on the soi next to the land - walking and driving. They were a clearly shocked by what was going on, and many stopped at a safe distance to observe the commotion. As far as I could see, nobody tried to interfere or speak to these hooligans, and I should also add that there is a Police sub-station within walking distance, but no signs of the bib. After about 2 hours, as dusk settled in, they all suddenly roared off.

I mention this, because, it would seem that the Mabprachan area may have been 'discovered' by the gangs that usually operate closer to Pattaya, and maybe it was from this gang that the killers belonged, as they were clearly lawless, feareless and uncaring.

Reading the accounts of Steve's friend, I am inclined to think it was a very unfortunate coincidence that Steve was once again caught up in a fracas with Thais - this time unfortunately fatal.

Deep sympathies to his family and friends.

[Mobi]

.......... be it the grossest beer bellied unshaven unshowered shirtless loudmouthed dog breathed boozed up scumbag with a brace of cackling prostitutes in tow...........

Hey Tax, why don't you get a job with TAT? I'm sure they'd welcome your colourful turn of phrase in their holdiday brochures.

A quick survey amongst a few BG's last night revealed that your description fits their ideal punter.

BTW - I don't think your outrageous comments are any more appropriate on this thread than my response. Why don't you use the 'Pattaya Deadwood' thread if you want to have a real old go?

[lampard10]

The killers allegedly took Bt40,000 in cash from her purse, her valuables and an unknown amount of cash from Parkinson's trouser pockets before fleeing.

- TN

Why has no-one so far pointed out? 40,000 in a bar girls purse. That's strange, or she was bloody expensive.

[taxexile]

Why don't you use the 'Pattaya Deadwood' thread if you want to have a real old go?

actually i don't want to have a go , i haven't been to pattaya for over 8 years , all i know about the place is what i read here and hear from others who either live there or visit. i have no experience of the place. but the picture that is painted of the place is not a pretty one.

this case is yet another example of the general lawlessness that has always existed here (thailand),

but until a few years ago it rarely affected foreigners. my comments were my thoughts on why foreigners are now attracting the attention of criminals here , and yes , maybe the other pattaya thread would have been a more suitable place for those comments.

i cant comment on this particular case because there are so many unknowns and unconfirmed bits of information.

hopefully the real murderers will be caught and justice will be done .

[INTJ]

Hi Cotty,

As you obviously know Basher, do you really think this shooting was the result of a "robbery gone bad" ? I mean, chased by two motorbikes and shot twice in the face "Mission Impossible" style because he wouldn't hand over his wallet.

Cheers.

.

[kurgen]

I live about 50 meters away from where Steve died.I didn't know this had happened so close to me until Monty told me yesterday.

My gf spoke to the owner of thre mini mart last night where it happened and she said she knew nothing about it.

As someone else mentioned, this is definately being hushed up by the locals.

IMO ,based on the very few facts available, this does not seem a mugging gone wrong.

R.I.P. Steve Parkinson

[mraloha]

again Pattaya! I am glad that I don't live in that place!

You are not the only one...

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You're both not 1/2 as glad as us "True-Pattayans" !!!!

Please stay in your safe-haven of "Nakhom Nowhere" and give Pattaya a wide berth, okay ? You're doing a lot of people a great favour by acting thus !

Proud Pattayan !

"True-Pattayans"!!!!! what are you smoking buddy? You are just a Farang living in Pattaya on borrowed time and borrowed land! The only "True Pattayans" are the Thais who have lived their for centuries! You must have written this "comment" before you first coffee! A couple of law abiding Farangs say they don't want to live in a crime ridden city and you exhibit a kind of coat of pride and indignation, a flamboyant and nerdy thus proclamation(are you royal?)!! As though the city belongs to a dork like you! OK OK if the Farangs in Pattaya are like you, I won't go I promise!

[Noel]

again Pattaya! I am glad that I don't live in that place!

You are not the only one...

================================================================

You're both not 1/2 as glad as us "True-Pattayans" !!!!

Please stay in your safe-haven of "Nakhom Nowhere" and give Pattaya a wide berth, okay ? You're doing a lot of people a great favour by acting thus !

Proud Pattayan !

Agreed.

Hmmm, another one slaps into the wicket keeper's gloves.

Ever heard of the word irony?

[Mobi]

again Pattaya! I am glad that I don't live in that place!

You are not the only one...

================================================================

You're both not 1/2 as glad as us "True-Pattayans" !!!!

Please stay in your safe-haven of "Nakhom Nowhere" and give Pattaya a wide berth, okay ? You're doing a lot of people a great favour by acting thus !

Proud Pattayan !

"True-Pattayans"!!!!! what are you smoking buddy? You are just a Farang living in Pattaya on borrowed time and borrowed land! The only "True Pattayans" are the Thais who have lived their for centuries! You must have written this "comment" before you first coffee! A couple of law abiding Farangs say they don't want to live in a crime ridden city and you exhibit a kind of coat of pride and indignation, a flamboyant and nerdy thus proclamation(are you royal?)!! As though the city belongs to a dork like you! OK OK if the Farangs in Pattaya are like you, I won't go I promise!

Hey! Who threw your toys out of the cradle this morning?

What's the matter? Didn't mummy give you her nipple to suck?

That's sounds mighty like flaming to me.

The poster did put True Pattayans in inverted commas - it wasn't as though he was deadly serious, just a bit of light hearted banter against an ever growing army of Pattaya bashers (of which at least one, by his own admission, has not set foot in the place for 8 years - which must make him really qualified to comment).

Maybe you need your first double of the day to calm you down.

[lampard10]

The poor guy would probably turn in his grave to hear you lot sqabbling like a load of Kindergarten detainees. For Christ sake someones been murdered. If you want to throw handbags at each other or scratch each others eyes out, please give a little respect and open a topic of your own. Why not call it " I'm a bigger <deleted> than he is"

Back to my question. Why has no-one questioned the fact that this 'Bar-girl' was carrying 40,000 in cash. That to me seems very strange that she told the Police she had that amount stolen from her.