Thai Deputy PM warns of third party involvement in protest

[webfact]

Deputy PM warns of third party involvement in protest
By English News



BANGKOK, Nov 15 – Deputy Prime Minister Pracha Promnok today warned of stern action against protesters at the Democracy Monument if they go overboard in their anti-government demonstration.

He admitted concern about possible infiltration by a third party to instigate violence in light of the demonstrators’ announcement to strengthen and spread out their movement in the capital later today.

They have the right to rally as long as they do not infringe on other people’s right including road blocking which is strongly inappropriate, he said.

Pol Gen Pracha quoted an intelligence report as saying that other people, especially drug addicts and the unemployed, will enter Bangkok to create unrest.

“The security authorities will stop them. Demonstrators should be on the lookout for these people,” said the deputy premier.

He said the government would be ready to hold talks if Democrat leader Abhisit Vejjajiva and former Democrat MP Suthep Thaugsuban seek negotiations to end the political deadlock.

“Please show your intention if you’re ready for negotiations. The government is willing to talk. Mr Abhisit was on the rally stage almost every night, he should talk with us. If he can’t wait for the general elections in the next two years, he is considered impatient,” said Gen Pracha. (MCOT online news)


-- TNA 2013-11-15

[Thait Spot]

"Pol Gen Pracha quoted an intelligence report as saying that other people, especially drug addicts and the unemployed, will enter Bangkok to create unrest."

There are days when I think I've heard just about everything and then lunchtime arrives along with this statement!!!

[gl555]

Is he warning about black shirts among the red idiots?

[cornishcarlos]

Pol Gen Pracha quoted an intelligence report Skype chat from Dubai..

​Desperate times an' all that !!!

[whybother]

If he can’t wait for the general elections in the next two years, he is considered impatient,

Do I need to say anything?

[jaidam]

Hashly punished, like being rapidly amnestied and having your pockets weighed down by 7.5 million baht to compensate for inconvenience?

[mrtoad]

A new low in statements from PTP.

[Thainy Tim]

PTP don't have anything to negotiate with.

[scorecard]

"Pol Gen Pracha quoted an intelligence report as saying that other people, especially drug addicts and the unemployed, will enter Bangkok to create unrest."

There are days when I think I've heard just about everything and then lunchtime arrives along with this statement!!!

Another example of how this mob think the people are stupid. Actually insulting to the Thai population at large

[Songhua]

"Pol Gen Pracha quoted an intelligence report as saying that other people, especially drug addicts and the unemployed, will enter Bangkok to create unrest."

There are days when I think I've heard just about everything and then lunchtime arrives along with this statement!!!

The police must have had someone undercover at the drug addicts' and unemployeds' planning conference.

[Nickymaster]

Pol Gen Pracha quoted an intelligence report as saying that other people, especially drug addicts and the unemployed, will enter Bangkok to create unrest.

Its 2013, not 2010.

[Robby nz]

Two words missing in that , Try :

Pol Gen Pracha quoted an intelligence report as saying that other people, especially RED SHIRT drug addicts and the unemployed, will enter Bangkok to create unrest.

Well if they are coming someone has to be paying them to come, right ?

[Nickymaster]

Deputy PM warns of third party involvement in protest

If you can call the Police a third party, the involvement has started long time ago.

Edited November 15, 2013 by Nickymaster

[webfact]

UPDATE:

Thai ruling party warns of unrest risk at anti-govt rally

BANGKOK, November 15, 2013 (AFP) - Thailand's ruling party on Friday warned that anti-government protests in the capital could descend into violence, accusing a key opposition leader of stashing "weapons" at the rally site.

Demonstrators angry at an amnesty proposal that may have allowed the return of self-exiled former premier Thaksin Shinawatra, have remained on Bangkok's streets despite the parliamentary defeat of the controversial bill.

"There are war weapons being kept in the middle of the protest. I want to tell people who might want to go to the rally today to stay home," Suporn Atthawong, deputy secretary to Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, told reporters.

Suporn, a key member of the pro-Thaksin "Red Shirts", did not elaborate on what type of arms he believed were at the rally site in the historical centre of the capital. His claims were swiftly rejected by protest organisers.

The rallies, which drew some 2,000 people by midday Friday, are the latest in a long and sometimes bloody series of political rallies in turbulent Thailand in recent years.

"I can confirm that their goal is now to overthrow government," said Suporn, who is widely known by the nickname "Rambo Isaan", referring to a region in northeast Thailand considered as Thaksin's heartland.

He accused rally leader and former deputy premier Suthep Thaugsuban of plotting unrest.

Protest spokesman Akanat Promphan said there was "not a single weapon" at the site.

"No one believes this story and you can see that by the high attendance," he said.

Experts say the opposition Democrat Party, which Suthep resigned from to head the protests, has benefited from anger over the amnesty.

Up to 50,000 people gathered in Bangkok on Monday evening to voice their discontent, blowing whistles, chanting and waving Thai flags.

But a senate vote that night rejected the bill and appeared to draw the sting from the proposal, with protest numbers reduced to their hundreds in recent days and little discernable take up of a Democrat call for a Wednesday to Friday general strike.

Thailand has been rocked by several rounds of opposing protests since Thaksin's government was deposed in an army coup in 2006 that have periodically brought chaos to the kingdom.

Thaksin is a hugely polarising figure in Thailand, drawing great support from the rural poor but hatred from many of the Bangkok middle and upper classes.

About 90 people died and nearly 1,900 were wounded in a series of street clashes in 2010 between mostly unarmed Red Shirt demonstrators and security forces firing live rounds in central Bangkok.

Polls in 2011 brought Thaksin's Red Shirt-backed Puea Thai party to power with his sister Yingluck Shinawatra now prime minister.


-- (c) Copyright AFP 2013-11-15

[givenall]

first of all if they had any

"Pol Gen Pracha quoted an intelligence report as saying that other people, especially drug addicts and the unemployed, will enter Bangkok to create unrest."

There are days when I think I've heard just about everything and then lunchtime arrives along with this statement!!!

First of all if they had any intelligence they would not be part of Red Shirt, Second if anyone ((3rd party) start the violence would be the Red Shirt who are sacred shxtless about the movements

[GentlemanJim]

Thank God it's Friday !

[siampolee]

The clutching at straws by this current administration to discredit the demonstrations against the administration itself and its whitewashing bills is indeed beyond belief.

Perhaps this administration is myopic, thus they haven't noticed that to date there have been no arson attacks, no shots fired no looting of premises, no invasion of hospitals etc unlike the Thaksin sponsored Red Shirt fun away days at 500 baht per diem events of 2010.

It must really be exasperating to see that both anti Amnesty bill and anti government demonstrations are being conducted without violence from the protesters ( the public at large) as opposed to a paid bunch of agitators as we all witnessed before in 2010 under a Thaksin dictatorship directorship

[JRSoul]

Have to wonder if drug addicts were mentioned because it is considered acceptable to shoot them. But the unemployed is a puzzle - by official figures they are as scarce as tap-dancing dodos.

[soi41]

Dear Thai politicians on both side of the divide, please stop your childish behaviour and nonsense rhetoric.

If you (as you claim) care about the people of Thailand, sit down and talk instead of promoting your own petty agendas (goes for some posters here aswell). Unless everyone come to their senses, we will end up with scenes like this again!

[anon467367354]

this is the part I like;

"About 90 people died and nearly 1,900 were wounded in a series of street clashes in 2010 between mostly unarmed Red Shirt demonstrators and security forces firing live rounds in central Bangkok."

How do you deal with a situation when you know there are armed protestors?

How do they know that those other than the "mostly unarmed Red Shirt demonstrators" didn't do the killing?

For some reason I see a conflict. Were those of the "mostly unarmed Red Shirt demonstrators" armed and ordered to kill and if so by whom?

Were these people "3rd party" unemployed or drug addicts or both? Who paid them and who armed them?

[h90]

this is the part I like;

"About 90 people died and nearly 1,900 were wounded in a series of street clashes in 2010 between mostly unarmed Red Shirt demonstrators and security forces firing live rounds in central Bangkok."

How do you deal with a situation when you know there are armed protestors?

How do they know that those other than the "mostly unarmed Red Shirt demonstrators" didn't do the killing?

For some reason I see a conflict. Were those of the "mostly unarmed Red Shirt demonstrators" armed and ordered to kill and if so by whom?

Were these people "3rd party" unemployed or drug addicts or both? Who paid them and who armed them?

well there are enough videos with the men in black walking between the red shirts with some heavy guns.

So the red shirts who were peaceful must knew about it. Of course still they didn't deserve it, but it is like going for a walk on the highway in the middle of the night and complain if a car runs into you.

[ballpoint]

"Pol Gen Pracha quoted an intelligence report as saying that other people, especially drug addicts and the unemployed, will enter Bangkok to create unrest."

There are days when I think I've heard just about everything and then lunchtime arrives along with this statement!!!

But I thought there were no unemployed in Thailand under this government? You mean to say the pro red posters who have been telling that to us over and over again were wrong?

[Soi Sauce]

Shouldn't he be be more concerned about the convicted third party wannabee owner of Thailand who instigated all this trouble thru his amnesty bill?

Edited November 15, 2013 by Soi Sauce

[AleG]

"Pol Gen Pracha quoted an intelligence report as saying that other people, especially drug addicts and the unemployed, will enter Bangkok to create unrest."

There are days when I think I've heard just about everything and then lunchtime arrives along with this statement!!!

He forgot to mention the Boogie Man, obviously they are trying to scare the people into not joining the demonstrations. "Lovely protest you have here, would be a pity if something happened to it"

[patjem]

Isn't that the guy who was known as "Issan Rambo"? A "true model of a peaceful leader" at the red shirt rallies in 2010?

[thaimat]

What, no nationalistic wave of paranoia warning about foreign "outside agitators" yet? Still to come, I suppose.

[Emptyset]

What, no nationalistic wave of paranoia warning about foreign "outside agitators" yet? Still to come, I suppose.

Well, Thaksin did want to sue that actress a few days back for saying he had Khmer mercenaries lined up in a wat and ready to go (though he's since withdrawn the defamation suit). I remember back in 2010, one of the Democrats was saying that the red shirts contained huge numbers of unemployed migrants from Burma and Cambodia. Then the red shirts from the stage said the government had brought in Khmer snipers and those opposed to the red shirts were saying that the MiB were Khmer etc. Quite absurd really. Actually what the minister says here is fairly standard. I don't think there's been a government in Thai history that hasn't tried to denigrate protesters if they consider them a profound threat. Also the third hand warning is business as usual.

[thaimat]

What, no nationalistic wave of paranoia warning about foreign "outside agitators" yet? Still to come, I suppose.

Well, Thaksin did want to sue that actress a few days back for saying he had Khmer mercenaries lined up in a wat and ready to go (though he's since withdrawn the defamation suit). I remember back in 2010, one of the Democrats was saying that the red shirts contained huge numbers of unemployed migrants from Burma and Cambodia. Then the red shirts from the stage said the government had brought in Khmer snipers and those opposed to the red shirts were saying that the MiB were Khmer etc. Quite absurd really. Actually what the minister says here is fairly standard. I don't think there's been a government in Thai history that hasn't tried to denigrate protesters if they consider them a profound threat. Also the third hand warning is business as usual.

Well, we certainly know which 'side' has the closest ties to military trained Khmer.

[Emptyset]

What, no nationalistic wave of paranoia warning about foreign "outside agitators" yet? Still to come, I suppose.

Well, Thaksin did want to sue that actress a few days back for saying he had Khmer mercenaries lined up in a wat and ready to go (though he's since withdrawn the defamation suit). I remember back in 2010, one of the Democrats was saying that the red shirts contained huge numbers of unemployed migrants from Burma and Cambodia. Then the red shirts from the stage said the government had brought in Khmer snipers and those opposed to the red shirts were saying that the MiB were Khmer etc. Quite absurd really. Actually what the minister says here is fairly standard. I don't think there's been a government in Thai history that hasn't tried to denigrate protesters if they consider them a profound threat. Also the third hand warning is business as usual.

Well, we certainly know which 'side' has the closest ties to military trained Khmer.

Yes, but in reality there's no evidence that there were any foreigners involved at all. That there was such hysteria about Khmer involvement just speaks to a certain Thai blindspot - many are still deluded enough to believe that a Thai wouldn't harm another Thai, whereas, foreigners of course, they're capable of anything, aren't they? That they still believe this after countless massacres and acts of brutality is just... well...

[Lupatria]

Pol Gen Pracha quoted an intelligence report as saying that other people, especially drug addicts and the unemployed, will enter Bangkok to create unrest.

I worked in drug therapy before and can assure this moron, mass rallies with hundreds of cops around, extended cctv surveillance, blazing sun and heat or pouring rain are the least things a junkie is looking for. Why are guys making stupid statements like this not working as gardeners anymore.

Btw according to the official unemployment rate of the country (0.89% by July 2013) the one and a half unemployed people gathering the protest would hardly create any havoc.

Edited November 15, 2013 by Lupatria