Philippines Girlfriend refused to travel for 14 days trip to Thailand

[linne16]

As a Filipina, I find some comments offensive but true, yes this happens in the Philippines, but not everyone is like that.. most of us have decent jobs... As for the girl, decent Filipinas wouldn't go out with a man she met once and have an all-expense paid trip somewhere, most of us maybe outgoing but the idea of being with someone you've only met once and spending 2 weeks with him/them without anything on her own is not something smart women will do, regardless of their nationality... again, my brother got denied once, and i told him he's stupid... for your friend... you already know that....

[Shancloudy]

As a Filipina, I find some comments offensive but true, yes this happens in the Philippines, but not everyone is like that.. most of us have decent jobs... As for the girl, decent Filipinas wouldn't go out with a man she met once and have an all-expense paid trip somewhere, most of us maybe outgoing but the idea of being with someone you've only met once and spending 2 weeks with him/them without anything on her own is not something smart women will do, regardless of their nationality... again, my brother got denied once, and i told him he's stupid... for your friend... you already know that....

Yes, that's true.. sad to know that some people thinking that about Filipina even though we trying our best to have a decent job... it's unfair to some filipina.

[toybits]

Philippine Immigrations officer probably thinks the OP is a human trafficker. Sorry dude - they are just protecting their women... tsk tsk... Besides, I wonder what your unsaid motives are for bringing this woman with you to Phuket really is? Is it just to be nice to her? Did you tell her what you expected in return for your "generosity"?

Edited November 26, 2013 by toybits

[tropo]

As a Filipina, I find some comments offensive but true, yes this happens in the Philippines, but not everyone is like that.. most of us have decent jobs... As for the girl, decent Filipinas wouldn't go out with a man she met once and have an all-expense paid trip somewhere, most of us maybe outgoing but the idea of being with someone you've only met once and spending 2 weeks with him/them without anything on her own is not something smart women will do, regardless of their nationality... again, my brother got denied once, and i told him he's stupid... for your friend... you already know that....

Yes, that's true.. sad to know that some people thinking that about Filipina even though we trying our best to have a decent job... it's unfair to some filipina.

It's not really a case of unfairness. If a Filipino has the proper visa and a job offer and has completed all the necessary paperwork, they'll have no problem leaving.

These problems are being experienced by young Filipino trying to exit WITHOUT a visa. More often than not they are travelling overseas to work illegally.

[Tchooptip]

Although no visa is required for a Philippine citizen, Philippine nationals who appear 'low-class' or even 'middle class' are questioned by Philippine immigration officials out of suspicion that they will work abroad illegally as house helpers, bar girls, or even teachers/tutors.

(I'm not putting down your girlfriend; and no use arguing whether she looks low class or not. As a westerner you cannot tell unless you've lived in the Philippines for a long period of time)

If the immigration official has reason to suspect that the person will try to find work abroad without going through the proper procedure, he/she can legally be offloaded from the plane.

Viva la libertad... Disgusting!

[tropo]

If the immigration official has reason to suspect that the person will try to find work abroad without going through the proper procedure, he/she can legally be offloaded from the plane.

They won't be offloaded from the plane because they won't get that far.

It's not really a matter of a person being suspect, but rather that a person is in a high risk group. Single ladies travelling alone or with "boyfriends" are considered as such.

For every "boyfriend" such as the OP being inconvenienced, dozens of potential prostitutes expecting to get on the plane will be stopped.

It wouldn't be a difficult matter for an Immigration Officer to determine real intent after conducting separate interviews with boyfriend and girl. It doesn't matter how well they rehearse their story, they're going to slip up if they've only known each other for a few weeks.

[paz]

  One of the commentators called me a MONGER.

So people who vist the Philippines are MONGERS.  Whatabout people who live in Thailand ?Or maybe

like me live in Thailand and visit The Philippines. Please save me these kind of disgusting remarks.

 

 

Guilty as charged!... that was me and I make no apologies for it. You visit the Philippines 2/3 times per year, you're single and you've made about 50 visits over 15 years.

 

I don't have anything against whore mongers, but I'm calling a spade a spade.

 

We can only go on what you write. You met her in April, hung out for awhile, then left and after 7 months you decided to call her when you went back to Philippines. You obviously had no interim contact with her as you didn't know about her "dead" friend until you called her.

 

Why would she say her friend was dead? Use your imagination. She's married to a Filipino or with another guy so uses that as an excuse to save the embarrassment of having to explain it - is one reason. You were with your friend who wanted to hook up with the "dead" girl and it was the easiest way out. It's extremely common for these bargirls to be married to Filipinos, you know. You want some more reasons? Maybe she's pregnant or just doesn't want to see your friend.

 

It also helped in getting some sympathy from you as you obviously believe her - and a quick vacation to Thailand, which unfortunately didn't work out. 

 

Yeah, she could be dead, but I'll bet she's alive and well. With bargirls there's a common saying - "if their lips are moving - they're lying". Of course not only bargirls lie but you're better off assuming they're lying until you know otherwise. You should know all this as a veteran of the Philippines and Thailand. 

 

 

 

 

Nothing worst and more boring than a verbose, judgemental, self-proclaimed veteran thats a nice word for monger. Spare the lecture and go back at polishing your forum image.

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[tropo]

Nothing worst and more boring than a verbose, judgemental, self-proclaimed veteran thats a nice word for monger. Spare the lecture and go back at polishing your forum image.

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Obviously you're the one worried about your forum image. As for me - I say it like it is no matter what people like you think...so spare yourself the trouble of whining about it.

As for suggesting I'm a monger - well, I've been married and monogamous for many years. I had my days, but they're long gone. What's your story?

Edited December 2, 2013 by tropo

[Mario2008]

That was enough flaming. I strongly suggest it stops.

Keep it civil and a discussion might turn into a real exchange of opinions.

[moe666]

They not only refuse single women, but professional men it is a power trip they like to use. There was a story in one of there news papers a couple of years ago about a professor who was to give a paper on some subject he was a specialist in, but he was refused boarding to his destination in the middle east. He later booked a flight to Hong Kong and then to his final destination. He was allowed to leave for Hong Kong but arrived a day late for his presentation.

There is also certain classes they have to attend and have paper work to prove they attended the class as a requirement to leave.

[stopthegreed]

I Also want to take my GF to Thailand. And I am wondering if it would be asier if she had a Thai sponsor on company headed paper, to say she was going to stay with them. ??

[cacruden]

Canada [had/has] an entertainers permit that allowed performers (entertainers of all types) to work in Canada if they were sponsored which was used to be used by "dancers" (aka strippers) to work in Canada. The Philippines were the most vociferous about Canada allowing that. For a long time Canada just ignored it, but then blocked its use for Philippines and Thailand specifically. They use to pat down anyone suspected of leaving to work in Canada in non-approved jobs and tear up the documentation. The girls would then travel up to HK as a tourist then pick up the paperwork and continue onto Canada. I suspect they are just trying to plug all the holes and have turned the country into a prison of sorts for the "wrong people" who might embarrass the country. Unfortunately your girlfriend was just assumed to be one of "those girls" and was blocked (I am assuming she was over the age where she needed parental permission to travel).

Edited September 29, 2014 by cacruden

[ubonjoe]

I Also want to take my GF to Thailand. And I am wondering if it would be asier if she had a Thai sponsor on company headed paper, to say she was going to stay with them. ??

It has been suggested before that doing an affidavit of support (aka letter of invitation) will make it easier for them to leave. Info on embassy website: http://bangkokpe.dfa.gov.ph/index.php/sample-sites/2014-07-24-03-12-19/2014-07-24-03-15-00/2014-07-24-04-31-08

Download affidavit: http://bangkokpe.dfa.gov.ph/images/consular/affidavit/Affidavit-of-Support.pdf

[iammarilou]

I am a Filipina and been in and out of the country as tourist and I am currently in Bangkok as a tourist. I never had a problem with the immigration pulling me out and not allowing me to leave the country. Although sometimes if Im unlucky and get a not-in-the-mood IO then I get to answer a lot of questions. Based on experience and what I observed, the immigration officers sometimes look at the way the girls dress up and how they present themselves. Meaning when they see a girl wearing a bit revealing clothes (especially when they are with a foreigner) and looking nervous they are more likely to be pulled out. When they see a girl who looks like they have money (more class as what others said) and looking more confident and specially if they can speak English then they are more likely ignored and are allowed to go out of the country. Its unfortunate but that's how I see it works. My advice would be tell your gf to answer the officers questions directly. And only answer what they are asking. And of course if she is travelling as a tourist show proofs that she really is. Plane ticket back to Philippines, hotel bookings, and most especially proof of funds (bank statements, payslips, etc). If she is travelling with you, make sure the two of you really know each other coz you will be for sure grilled with questions and make sure your answers match. Goodluck :-)

[genobkk]

I have knew Philipino people for years and it is just bad and wrong to generalize about them as it is with Thai, Americans, German,French, etc. I lived in San Francisco several years before moving to Bangkok and knew several. My first trip to the Philippines was just last year, Cebu and Bohol.

One of the best people I met in Bangkok was from the Philippines. I worked with her, she was. Cheated out of her sallery for one month and I offered to help her out and I was paid back in full before I even expected it. now she and her housband have built a hotel in bohol and will not accept any money from me if I come to visit. I was good friends with both. I find it so sad that most forginers only meet bar girls or boys then try to judge a whole group of people on that.

The issue of woman having a tough time leaving the Philippines dates back to at least 2001. Judging from the post here it has became even worse.

Edited September 29, 2014 by genobkk

[Mario2008]

Offensive generalisation about Thai woman removed.