Hi All.

Been back in the UK for a while with the Dragon and looking at returning to Thailand soon.

47 years old British citizen, married to Thai and have a child with dual nationality

i used to get my visa from the Birmingham UK consulate

When I 1st stayed in Thailand some 7 or 8 years ago with the Mrs we were engaged and all i needed for a 12 month Non-O was a letter of invitation from her.

over the years this changed a little a we had a son & later married.

so i think on my 2nd or 3rd Non-O i just supplied the birth certificate of my son .. then on the last one i had to also provide the marriage certificate.

i believe it has now changed yet again to make things more difficult ..

can anyone clarify current requirements and if possible is there anything on any of the consulate of embassy sites showing changes ? Thai embassy uk shows 40,000bt per month income required but i'm sure i read on here somewhere that this had now increased

from the thai Uk embassy website .. does not refer to those under 50 years of age.

Category "O" with multiple entries

Pension earners or Applicants over 50 years of age, following document is required;

- Pension statement if the applicant is a pension earner, or
- Proof of income with a minimum of £1,400.00 per month or
- Thai Spouse visa with a copy of marriage certificate and passport or Thai ID of spouse and (3 months bank statement showing monthly income of more than
£1,400.00 or £16,500 anuually for those who have been issue category O with multiple entries)

There are reports of getting the multiple entry non-o based upon marriage with no financial proof from Birmingham. You should contact them to see what the latest requirements are.

The info on the embassy website is rubbish in my opinion. They are showing retirement requirements for a visa based upon marriage.

is it a change of the rules causing problems or enforcement of rules that have been there and never used.

what i cannot find anywhere is something on any of the sites saying in plain English what the official requirements are now, were then, or even if there has been any official change. the bit about has it changed or just enforced is what interests me really.

hull replied to a email i sent them last week saying that it should read as below and that the spouse visa required the £1400 per month the same as the retirement one.

Category "O" with multiple entries

Pension earners or Applicants over 50 years of age, following document is required;

- Pension statement if the applicant is a pension earner, or
- Proof of income with a minimum of £1,400.00 per month

Thai Spouse visa with a copy of marriage certificate and passport or Thai ID of spouse and (3 months bank statement showing monthly income of more than
£1,400.00 or £16,500 anuually for those who have been issue category O with multiple entries)

so if i read it right they are saying

if over 50 AND in receipt of a pension then just a pension letter will suffice regardless of value

if over 50 and NOT in receipt of a pension then Proof of income with a minimum of £1,400.00 per month

if under 50 and married Proof of income, Proof of marriage, Thai ID with a minimum of £1,400.00 per month

will try Birmingham later in the week but would assume whatever is new or tightened will get there eventually.

Edited November 27, 201312 yr by silentnine

There has never been any official financial requirements to get any visa other than the basic 10k to 20k set by the MFA. There have been embassies and consulates that have set there own requirements. What has happened now is that the London embassy has come up with some strange and unexplainable requirements for non-o visas for marriage and retirement.

If you plan on staying here long term you just get a single entry visa and apply for an extension of stay based upon marriage at immigration.

There has never been any official financial requirements to get any visa other than the basic 10k to 20k set by the MFA. There have been embassies and consulates that have set there own requirements. What has happened now is that the London embassy has come up with some strange and unexplainable requirements for non-o visas for marriage and retirement.

If you plan on staying here long term you just get a single entry visa and apply for an extension of stay based upon marriage at immigration.

so is it a 40,000 baht per month or equivalent in sterling {with a embassy letter confirming} that is needed for an extension based on marriage if applied for in thailand?

or 10k to 20k set by the mfa (this bit has confused me)

A Rough Guide. Applying for a twelve month extension in Thailand

(6) In case of marriage with a Thai lady, the husband who is an alien must have an average annual income of not less than 40,000 baht per month or a money deposit in a local Thai bank of not less than 400,000 baht for the past 2 months for expenses within a year.

Letter from your Thai Bank showing balance and up to date bank book.

OR.

If income from outside Thailand: Letter from your Embassy showing income. Now may also need proof of income as back up.

If Income from Thailand: Statements showing Income Tax receipts.

Marriage Certificate. (Kor Ror 3)

Marriage Registry entry. (Kor Ror 2)

Wife's Tabbien Baan and ID Card.

Your Passport.

Copies of everything.

Photos of you and your Wife in and around the house.

A map showing the way to your house.

Passport size photos and 1,900 Baht fee.

Take your Wife to be interviewed.

One or two witnesses may be required.

You will be given a 30 day under consideration stamp.

Go back in a month and get the remainder

The 10k to 20k baht number is for all visas (not extensions). But I was off on the amount.

This from MFA website in documents required for visa issuance.

- Evidence of adequate finance ( 20,000 Baht per person and 40,000 Baht per family )

See: http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/123/15398-Issuance-of-Visa.html

A Rough Guide. Applying for a twelve month extension in Thailand

(6) In case of marriage with a Thai lady, the husband who is an alien must have an average annual income of not less than 40,000 baht per month or a money deposit in a local Thai bank of not less than 400,000 baht for the past 2 months for expenses within a year.

Letter from your Thai Bank showing balance and up to date bank book.

OR.

If income from outside Thailand: Letter from your Embassy showing income. Now may also need proof of income as back up.

If Income from Thailand: Statements showing Income Tax receipts.

Marriage Certificate. (Kor Ror 3)

Marriage Registry entry. (Kor Ror 2)

Wife's Tabbien Baan and ID Card.

Your Passport.

Copies of everything.

Photos of you and your Wife in and around the house.

A map showing the way to your house.

Passport size photos and 1,900 Baht fee.

Take your Wife to be interviewed.

One or two witnesses may be required.

You will be given a 30 day under consideration stamp.

Go back in a month and get the remainder

did this on saturday in NaN now asking for divorce papers if wife married before, new rule according to them, also if first time you have the house vist and the help money for diesel

Last year for the first immigration here asked for wife's 24 year old divorce certificate. We were lucky we had a copy at home. This year made copies but didn't put them with the application thinking it might be a one time thing. But during interview they asked for it so just pulled them out.

So immigration do not trust Thai procedures for generating a marriage certificate? They'll be wanting to see all the evidence that you originally supplied to your bank in order to open the evidential bank account and your birth certificate that underpins your passport next.

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Edited November 27, 201312 yr by SantiSuk

There has never been any official financial requirements to get any visa other than the basic 10k to 20k set by the MFA. There have been embassies and consulates that have set there own requirements. What has happened now is that the London embassy has come up with some strange and unexplainable requirements for non-o visas for marriage and retirement.

If you plan on staying here long term you just get a single entry visa and apply for an extension of stay based upon marriage at immigration.

I received my 12 month non-o visa, on basis of marriage, from Birmingham recently - with no financials. If you download the visa application form from their website, there is no mention of financial requirements other than the basic MFA figure (which in practice is not asked for, but could be).

Previously I had obtained my visa from Hull, but after using the Thai Visa search function and reading the reports I decided to try a different consulate and was successful.

As Ubonjoe points out, particular embassies and consulates may set their own requirements which may lead them to be perceived as less attractive to applicants.

There has never been any official financial requirements to get any visa other than the basic 10k to 20k set by the MFA. There have been embassies and consulates that have set there own requirements. What has happened now is that the London embassy has come up with some strange and unexplainable requirements for non-o visas for marriage and retirement.

If you plan on staying here long term you just get a single entry visa and apply for an extension of stay based upon marriage at immigration.

I received my 12 month non-o visa, on basis of marriage, from Birmingham recently - with no financials. If you download the visa application form from their website, there is no mention of financial requirements other than the basic MFA figure (which in practice is not asked for, but could be).

Previously I had obtained my visa from Hull, but after using the Thai Visa search function and reading the reports I decided to try a different consulate and was successful.

As Ubonjoe points out, particular embassies and consulates may set their own requirements which may lead them to be perceived as less attractive to applicants.

Ubonjoe is correct, Perth WA require 1.5mil baht to be shown for a NoN O mulit, The MFA should standardise the requirements but they wont, its left up to tin pot officals to set up what they think.

Edited November 28, 201312 yr by MikeandDow