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What the hell is going on? Nothing on regular news channels, but I'm hearing about grenades going off? Students getting shot, possibly even by police? On the Democracy Monument stage they were saying that Ramkamhaeng students have "caught" 3 Red Shirts in the university?

Anyone have any clue of anything apart since the shooting at around 10.30?

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Suthep sends these students near the red shirts as a provocation, hoping that the situation will get worse, and finally out of hand.

Who else would he send there? The gentle middle class protesters with their nice haircut and fashionable sunglasses? Not to forget their silly little whistle, of course. giggle.gif.pagespeed.ce.AcGRO3FsZu.gif width=20 alt=giggle.gif>

Suthep's students' brigade is composed of students who are used to fight each other. But now, instead of useless brawls, they can go to search for new sensations near the red shirts.

The goal is clear. Just to create chaos.

Suthep must hate to see red shirts avoiding confrontation. It's does not "look good", while his own southern thugs seize government buildings, enjoy free food, harass a 10yrs old child and go as far as to provoke the police and the army. Without any result, hopefully.

Suthep and the Dems must become impatients. When will there finally be serious casualties?

Let's just hope that the red shirts stay as wise and restrained as they have been till now. At least they behave like adults.

Excellent post !!

Spot on.

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What the hell is going on? Nothing on regular news channels, but I'm hearing about grenades going off? Students getting shot, possibly even by police? On the Democracy Monument stage they were saying that Ramkamhaeng students have "caught" 3 Red Shirts in the university?

Anyone have any clue of anything apart since the shooting at around 10.30?

Only what I am getting from my friends in the area. ....

Started early with the reds asaulting 2 RU students, kicked off from there with the students going nuts. Obviously some non-students involved in agitating the situation as well.

More than a few shots fired.

more than 4 significant explosions being reported as grenades (note -- sources are reliable re: explosions and not as to the type.

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Guys, it was, once again, a real pleasure to share interesting moments with you on this forum. thumbsup.gif

All those of you who supported the protests of insane Suthep to topple the elected government, as well as everything and everyone who is not in line with his rather strange ideology, can be already very proud of the result. The beginning of a result. Probably a bloody one.
Approving the Dems in their destructive and immature "political battle" is what brings the country again to square one. Great great great, will still chant the extremists.
Forgiving, sitting together, discussing, finding a way out of the crisis, avoid confrontation, put aside the anger, stick to democracy and elections, ... all this was intentionally put aside by the Dems and the anti-Thaksin minority to favor a new round of street protests, which, as all sound people could guess, would never lead the country anywhere, on the contrary. Who cares, will say the extremists, as long as it is to overthrow the "Thaksin regime" (and the voice of half of the country).
Many on this forum, instead of supporting the idea of forgiving, learn from the past but concentrate on the future, be positive and constructive, preferred to side with the ones who brought back the exact same situation as the one created by the yellows in 2006. Great achievement. Really. What a huge step... backward.

The Dems took hostage the city and the people by criminally seizing numerous buildings, bringing government activities to a standstill, with the tacit approval of people who naively though that it was “for a good cause”…
Peaceful demonstrations and silly whistle blowing quickly became not enough for Suthep and his blind supporters, so they escalated the protest each time the government was giving in or inviting to sit together to find a way out. Very imaginative way of destroying again the country, but not enough to get the power back to the Dems!
Suthep needed more turmoil. Much more.
He got a bit today, but rest assured that he wants more. He needs more... The death of a silly student is not enough for Suthep to achieve his dream.
We can be sure that he is already preparing the script of his hateful speech for tomorrow. He will try to make the whole world believe that these poor young and peaceful students (see the pictures posted at the beginning of this thread) never went to confront the red shirts at their rally, but found themselves there because they had nowhere else to go. Poor darlings. rolleyes.gif
And, of course, the ugly evil stinky red shirts immediately shot them all... Bad bad bad red shirts ! That will be Suthep's real, true and fully believable truth, to be served on a silver plate to his naive followers.
And Suthep’s truth will, of course, find lots of likeminded people on this forum to confirm it. Whatever Suthep's truth would be.

Anyway, I wish you all a good night. wai.gif
I allow myself to post a nice panorama picture of the peaceful gathering taking place at the stadium, so that we can all wish them good night too... from the bottom of our heart smile.png

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if true this is a very disturbing situation..........

RT@Juarawee: Gunshot heard in Ramkamhaeng University, ppl scrambling for life. TR @kidnoko_TRnews

RT@Saksith: URGENT: Several reports coming in about gunshots fired in Ramkhamhaeng!

RT@tulsathit: Jatuporn on red stage: We're being attacked. Police are coming to help.

RT@tulsathit: Jatuporn: Guns were fired at police.

RT@Juarawee: RT @Wootthinan: 20.50PM reporter said 3 university students shot, one at back, leg, arm. All hospitalised.

RT@aleursic: 21:06 Another wounded student (white shirt, flag necklace) passed in front of my eyes, carried on a scooter

RT@tulsathit: ASTV is reporting gunshots were fired at students.

RT@Bangkok_Simon: My driver just left Ramkamhaeng with daughter, says several students shot by "reds dressed in police uniform"! Does that sound possible?

RT@Ryn_writes: "Police are shooting citizens" - words from Ramkhamhaeng students >>

RT@Tulip_Oum: The kid got shot in the back at Ramkumhang. He insist the cop standing next to red shirts fire the shot.-@tigerx456 pic.twitter.com/UbzNwxEJnq

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Thats my prediction. No way will the army allow largely unarmed middle class/stufents to be over run by largely violent and armed reds (who appear to have the backing of the police).

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@SteveInCM @meanderings101 @w7voa @saksith soldier duty now is only protect the buildings (ha ha) not protect students.It's a police's duty.

The police are supposedly moving in at last. RU is more of a working class university btw. I'm not sure how many of Suthep's group were involved, but if you look at those involved on the student side, it doesn't really fit the image that you suggest. Of course, reds ended up with more people that you'd back in a fight. But that was inevitable. Students started the violence according to every report I've seen from the scene.

You seem to be just making assumptions according to narrative you want to believe, as most people on both sides will. Police are saying already they've caught the shooter and, of course, he's turned out to be one of Suthep's mob. Do I believe that? Absolutely not. And I'd also take anything from Blue Sky or social media with the equivalent amount of salt if I was actually interested in the truth rather than further vilifying either side.

Absolutely - the idea that this is peaceful middle class housewives v. an armed red mob is ridiculous.

Both sides need to think about where this is heading. This absolutely NOT accidental, and the violence is pure provocation. I'm not so sure whose agenda stands to gain the most if the army have to take control of the situation, but it will certainly not be in the interests of Thailand.

Spot on.

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The Taharn Prahn were actually just Seh Daeng's ronin, actual men in black were more likely ex special forces, or navy SEALS. Seh Daeng's guys fired off grenades, but most of fighting by MiB with war weapons, i.e. April 10th, were the unit of MiB, believed to be based in Lumpini and under the control of a secret 'war room' operated by generals close to Thaksin. I'd suppose that the shooter earlier was a provocateur, not someone from either ordinary anti-govt or red side. Although I wouldn't guess who sent him at this stage. That said, ordinary protesters have used guns in protests before so it's possible to overthink this, maybe it was just chaos and it was inevitable that a firearm would be pulled at some point.

I am not sure that we can say "were actually just" followed by "more likely"...

The point I was making was from the Thai text that came with the FB photo and the common belief amongst the Thais I know, The literal translation was "scout" not Ranger.

BTW I would love to have a source for your beliefs.. I may have missed a book. You know I took awhile off from posting (couple of deaths in my family --- and work stuff -- preemptively no need for condolences)

Source was initially personal friend who knows someone who worked in the CRES war room. I wrote details of it on here in late 2010, early 2011. But since then there's been a couple of articles in the Asia Times that are pretty much the same as I wrote. Look for one article in particular called 'Machinations behind Thai Military Movements' by John Cole and Steve Sciaccitano (who no doubt have excellent senior military sources). But all their other stuff is worth a read too.

Here's a relevant paragraph: 'Apart from his family's close relations with Thaksin, Prin was also allegedly one of three secret "war room" managers who, despite being on active duty, effectively ran and directed the pro-Thaksin Red Shirt protest operations in Bangkok during last year's street violence, according to military insiders and Western diplomats. The other two were Lieutenant General Manat Paorik and General Pornchai Kranlert, both from Thaksin's Class 10, according to the same sources.'

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Those students were fighting the royalist elites, the Red Gaur, village scouts and the army bullies,,,a little like the Yingluck government. Paid for technical students at todays protest wont have the heart to tangle with some of these farmer boys

1) Not an accurate assessment of historical events as told by ANY side.

2) Yingluck nor her government are in the same class as the students that died in the past

3) Please show us ANY indication that there are "paid for technical students" in current events.

4) I assume you know that RU is not a technical college but is , in fact, a full university providing education to Thai people regardless of their backgrounds.

Indeed JD.

I met a bloke who was sent out of the country having been a communist.

He knows what the shins are up to and it does not match his ideas at all.

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Those students were fighting the royalist elites, the Red Gaur, village scouts and the army bullies,,,a little like the Yingluck government.

Laughable to suggest the Yingluck government is fighting any of those groups. Just take the "army bullies" for one. All of the ongoing court proceedings we are seeing regarding the events of 2010. And how many of them are targeting the actions of the military? Not one. You could be forgiven for thinking they weren't involved.. weren't even there perhaps. Yes, Yingluck is really giving those "army bullies" what for.

This government fights for one thing, and that one thing is a man in Dubai (or wherever the coward is holed-up these days). If the events of the last month haven't demonstrated that, you haven't been paying attention.

I haven't heard anything from him lately.

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Those students were fighting the royalist elites, the Red Gaur, village scouts and the army bullies,,,a little like the Yingluck government.

Laughable to suggest the Yingluck government is fighting any of those groups. Just take the "army bullies" for one. All of the ongoing court proceedings we are seeing regarding the events of 2010. And how many of them are targeting the actions of the military? Not one. You could be forgiven for thinking they weren't involved.. weren't even there perhaps. Yes, Yingluck is really giving those "army bullies" what for.

This government fights for one thing, and that one thing is a man in Dubai (or wherever the coward is holed-up these days). If the events of the last month haven't demonstrated that, you haven't been paying attention.

I haven't heard anything from him lately.

Good point, one might be forgiven for thinking the man was dead. No phone ins to his fans, nothing.

Maybe he's just doing some early Christmas shopping with the girls in London?

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Those students were fighting the royalist elites, the Red Gaur, village scouts and the army bullies,,,a little like the Yingluck government.

Laughable to suggest the Yingluck government is fighting any of those groups. Just take the "army bullies" for one. All of the ongoing court proceedings we are seeing regarding the events of 2010. And how many of them are targeting the actions of the military? Not one. You could be forgiven for thinking they weren't involved.. weren't even there perhaps. Yes, Yingluck is really giving those "army bullies" what for.

This government fights for one thing, and that one thing is a man in Dubai (or wherever the coward is holed-up these days). If the events of the last month haven't demonstrated that, you haven't been paying attention.

 

 

I haven't heard anything from him lately.

 

 

Good point, one might be forgiven for thinking the man was dead. No phone ins to his fans, nothing.

Maybe he's just doing some early Christmas shopping with the girls in London?

Thailand couldn't be so lucky that the fugitive was dead and forgotten.

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Look at it this way Gerry, the protests have been going on for around a month now. There's been very little violence in that time, the main incident being a few vocational students beating up a policeman. Now the red shirts arrive in force and within a few hours violence erupts.

Now they've apparently gone home, content, or rather their boss is, that the police and army can contain the situation.

It was all very well for Thaksin 3 years ago to have the reds running amok against Apisit's government, but now it's his government in power and it doesn't look good having hooligans running riot. Makes the government look weak, might cause a coup or at least the dissolution of Parliament.

Better to send them back, forget all last night's talk about taking on Suthep's protesters if the government can't do it as Thida said, money's been cut, go home.

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Guys, it was, once again, a real pleasure to share interesting moments with you on this forum. thumbsup.gif

All those of you who supported the protests of insane Suthep to topple the elected government, as well as everything and everyone who is not in line with his rather strange ideology, can be already very proud of the result. The beginning of a result. Probably a bloody one.

Approving the Dems in their destructive and immature "political battle" is what brings the country again to square one. Great great great, will still chant the extremists.

Forgiving, sitting together, discussing, finding a way out of the crisis, avoid confrontation, put aside the anger, stick to democracy and elections, ... all this was intentionally put aside by the Dems and the anti-Thaksin minority to favor a new round of street protests, which, as all sound people could guess, would never lead the country anywhere, on the contrary. Who cares, will say the extremists, as long as it is to overthrow the "Thaksin regime" (and the voice of half of the country).

Many on this forum, instead of supporting the idea of forgiving, learn from the past but concentrate on the future, be positive and constructive, preferred to side with the ones who brought back the exact same situation as the one created by the yellows in 2006. Great achievement. Really. What a huge step... backward.

The Dems took hostage the city and the people by criminally seizing numerous buildings, bringing government activities to a standstill, with the tacit approval of people who naively though that it was for a good cause

Peaceful demonstrations and silly whistle blowing quickly became not enough for Suthep and his blind supporters, so they escalated the protest each time the government was giving in or inviting to sit together to find a way out. Very imaginative way of destroying again the country, but not enough to get the power back to the Dems!

Suthep needed more turmoil. Much more.

He got a bit today, but rest assured that he wants more. He needs more... The death of a silly student is not enough for Suthep to achieve his dream.

We can be sure that he is already preparing the script of his hateful speech for tomorrow. He will try to make the whole world believe that these poor young and peaceful students (see the pictures posted at the beginning of this thread) never went to confront the red shirts at their rally, but found themselves there because they had nowhere else to go. Poor darlings. rolleyes.gif

And, of course, the ugly evil stinky red shirts immediately shot them all... Bad bad bad red shirts ! That will be Suthep's real, true and fully believable truth, to be served on a silver plate to his naive followers.

And Sutheps truth will, of course, find lots of likeminded people on this forum to confirm it. Whatever Suthep's truth would be.

Anyway, I wish you all a good night. wai.gif

I allow myself to post a nice panorama picture of the peaceful gathering taking place at the stadium, so that we can all wish them good night too... from the bottom of our heart smile.png

1452174_528844030545684_1466320739_n.jpg

This is clearly confirmation that Gerry has finally lost it.

Same as many here swallow easily the yellow/Dems propaganda, I think that you clearly draw conclusions far too quickly...

I was going to sleep biggrin.png

But here I am again, and in good shape, shaved and dressed, and without having been shot by the "students". Thank God rolleyes.gif

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Moring Gerry, here the latest pic of your redshirts peacefull gathering it is very peacefull now.....

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Seems someone forgot that 70,000 people need food and water so they all went home.

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A racial slurr has been removed along with many posts insutling/baiting other posters.

There is enough polarization and name-calling going on out there, not need to bring it in here.

If you want to participate in News threads then you must be prepared to handle posts you disagree with without name-calling, insults and baiting.

It is really very simple: when you read something you disagree with you, either (a) ignore it or (B) reply in a factual manner, stating your views, without name-calling or personal accusations (which in any even only serve to discredit any points you were trying to make).

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Guys, it was, once again, a real pleasure to share interesting moments with you on this forum. Posted Image

All those of you who supported the protests of insane Suthep to topple the elected government, as well as everything and everyone who is not in line with his rather strange ideology, can be already very proud of the result. The beginning of a result. Probably a bloody one.

Approving the Dems in their destructive and immature "political battle" is what brings the country again to square one. Great great great, will still chant the extremists.

Forgiving, sitting together, discussing, finding a way out of the crisis, avoid confrontation, put aside the anger, stick to democracy and elections, ... all this was intentionally put aside by the Dems and the anti-Thaksin minority to favor a new round of street protests, which, as all sound people could guess, would never lead the country anywhere, on the contrary. Who cares, will say the extremists, as long as it is to overthrow the "Thaksin regime" (and the voice of half of the country).

Many on this forum, instead of supporting the idea of forgiving, learn from the past but concentrate on the future, be positive and constructive, preferred to side with the ones who brought back the exact same situation as the one created by the yellows in 2006. Great achievement. Really. What a huge step... backward.

 

The Dems took hostage the city and the people by criminally seizing numerous buildings, bringing government activities to a standstill, with the tacit approval of people who naively though that it was for a good cause

Peaceful demonstrations and silly whistle blowing quickly became not enough for Suthep and his blind supporters, so they escalated the protest each time the government was giving in or inviting to sit together to find a way out. Very imaginative way of destroying again the country, but not enough to get the power back to the Dems!

Suthep needed more turmoil. Much more.

He got a bit today, but rest assured that he wants more. He needs more... The death of a silly student is not enough for Suthep to achieve his dream.

We can be sure that he is already preparing the script of his hateful speech for tomorrow. He will try to make the whole world believe that these poor young and peaceful students (see the pictures posted at the beginning of this thread) never went to confront the red shirts at their rally, but found themselves there because they had nowhere else to go. Poor darlings.  Posted Image 

And, of course, the ugly evil stinky red shirts immediately shot them all... Bad bad bad red shirts !  That will be Suthep's real, true and fully believable truth, to be served on a silver plate to his naive followers.

And Sutheps truth will, of course, find lots of likeminded people on this forum to confirm it. Whatever Suthep's truth would be.

Anyway, I wish you all a good night. Posted Image 

I allow myself to post a nice panorama picture of the peaceful gathering taking place at the stadium, so that we can all wish them good night too... from the bottom of our heart Posted Image 

 

Posted Image

This is clearly confirmation that Gerry has finally lost it.

 

Same as many here swallow easily the yellow/Dems propaganda, I think that you clearly draw conclusions far too quickly...

I was going to sleep Posted Image

But here I am again, and in good shape, shaved and dressed, and without having been shot by the "students". Thank God Posted Image

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Moring Gerry, here the latest pic of your redshirts peacefull gathering it is very peacefull now.....

 

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Seems someone forgot that 70,000 people need food and water so they all went home.

:blink:

You did hear that the red shirts wisely called off their peaceful rally in order to protect the participants from Suthep's thugs, right?

Or did you miss a chapter?

It is of course not a good news for those who expected to see more confrontation. And more blood...

Now the yellow "middle class" thugs (imported straight from the south) must head back to the government buildings and harass the people there. It must be less thrilling though :rolleyes:

But the free food may be better :lol:

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This is clearly confirmation that Gerry has finally lost it.

Same as many here swallow easily the yellow/Dems propaganda, I think that you clearly draw conclusions far too quickly...

I was going to sleep biggrin.png

But here I am again, and in good shape, shaved and dressed, and without having been shot by the "students". Thank God rolleyes.gif

Sent from my HTC One using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Moring Gerry, here the latest pic of your redshirts peacefull gathering it is very peacefull now.....

http://static.thaivisa.com/forum//public/style_images/master/attachicon.gif xBaXPyIYCEAEVle3_jpg_pagespeed_ic_ZrhbKLsWdf.jpg

Seems someone forgot that 70,000 people need food and water so they all went home.

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You did hear that the red shirts wisely called off their peaceful rally in order to protect the participants from Suthep's thugs, right?

Or did you miss a chapter?

It is of course not a good news for those who expected to see more confrontation. And more blood...

Now the yellow "middle class" thugs (imported straight from the south) must head back to the government buildings and harass the people there. It must be less thrilling though rolleyes.gif

But the free food may be better laugh.png

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Yes I heard they murdered 5 students with weapons of war then besieged them in the university all night with snipers. Meanwhile the BIB aided the reds and refused to aid the besieged student and they had to be rescued by the military. Its understandable that the red terrorists leaders called of their protest with such haste before their uncontrollable and heavily armed supporter committed mass murder of unarmed students for which they would be held responsible.

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Same dude that instigated the mass-arson and was subsequently gifted an mp position for his efforts?
Seems legit.

Strange that people would revolt against a government made up of such wholesome, thoughtful and self-sacrificing group of individuals.

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"They have their right to rally. But if they come here, the ones to get hurt will not be the ones inside the Rajamangala but the students themselves," Jatuporn said.

Since students did not only get hurt but died also, does this qualify to second degree murder charge for Jatuporn?

+1 my thoughts exactly surely incitement now and back in 2010 is enough to level murder charges against many of red leaders. Their hypocrisy is sickening.

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