Ricardo Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 A good solution would be one in which Thailand is not sent back into the dark ages . I was setting the bar a tad higher to imagine something GOOD. Thaksin dies of a painless heart-attack, and leaves his money to establish education-grants for the poor, his family retire abroad to enjoy their own wealth ? Suthep & Chalerm & all other politicians aged over-65 retire permanently, for real, and their families don't stay in Thai politics. China accepts all the ageing-rice, in the government's warehouses, in full-payment for the freight-line, which they then finance & build & operate without local 'help'. A new generation of less-corrupt (mustn't ask the impossible) politicians emerges, and the military continue to step further back, from politics. Oh, and Thai Airways finally gets a decent management-team ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerry123 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 every time i read the likes of this i clik on ex exchange and laugh all the way to the bank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbandung Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Is there anyone on here who can think of a good solution to this ? It is really very simple. In a democracy the time between elections is traditionally spent educating the public so that they will vote for the party you prefer and they will win government. Anything else is anarchy or a dictatorship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) I think a poster on another thread worked out what Suthep is up to. The government were having a tough time along with nutty amnesty bills etc and needed a distraction. Some smart person in the PTP realised they needed a clown to stir up the people. Not a credible one, simply one that would look and act dafter with each passing day. Suthep happened to fit the bill, he was wound up and sent on his merry way. The government simply stood back and watched day by day increasing their credibility by limited interference as Suthep stumbled and weaved. When this is all over chances are the gov will have a Suthep day in honour of the man who kept them in power. Edited December 7, 2013 by Thailand 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolare Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Let's pray everything will be solved without violence and will be really over on Monday, even if IMHO, if protest won't be successful, Suthep won't turn himself in, so will be not over. Does this guy Suthep have something up his sleeve ??? If not I think he is treading on very thin ice.he has made his point . Now he should be searching for evidence to back up all his accusations. running round with a big gun is useless without ammo... He dont need to be searching the evidence is all over the place. That was why Thaksin was convicted in the first place then you can even find speaches incriminating him on youtube... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbandung Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 It is interesting that Suthep does not talk about what happens after his "people's council" (that he heads up?) is installed. He has made it clear that he does not want fresh elections because the stupid Thai people won't vote for him. So what then? It is pretty clear that he wants the constitution changed and some form of "alternate democracy" where the ignorant masses of the north have less influence than their educated brothers and sisters in BKK and down south. No matter how you cook it up if you choose to eat at Suthep's table every dish is toxic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rwhoov Posted December 7, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2013 It was a long and painful speech to follow. As much as people want to say about his protest we have not heard for calls for violence from the stage. He has promised that he will not return to the rally sites. It ends Monday. Let's see. You think the democratically elected government should just hand itself over to this mob so this idiot Suthep, who has never won an election, can become PM? Wow! Such intelligence!! LOL 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rwhoov Posted December 7, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2013 I can only pray he will win, but he sounds to be walking on his lasts legs. Let's see. You think the democratically elected government should just hand itself over to this mob so this idiot Suthep, who has never won an election, can become PM? Wow! Such intelligence!! LOL 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangon04 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 The march from every really site will start at 9.39am. It really will start at 9:39am...Thai time I was thinking the same thing, why not 9.30 or 9.45? Because the Soothsayer said so?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toybits Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 D-day, E-day, F-day, etc. then Z-day? After that A1-day? At the mean time, his Democrat Party buddies are just waiting in the sideline safely tucked away from the firing line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prbkk Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) Dear Khun Suthep Please choose any or all of these titles for yourself. They reflect your style, philosophy and personality. . add Supreme Buy Scout and Ever Victorious Iron Willed Commander...you deserve those as well. Your determination to take Thailand down this lunatic path would be supported by the fraternity of the like-minded in the north . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kim_Jong-il%27s_titles Edited December 7, 2013 by Prbkk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzainoz Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Yingluck has offered to resign. Surely that is good enough for a start. This guy keeps demanding more and more: "total extermination". I don't believe this govt has done anything wrong in the way it has handled this situation. Sure, the amnesty bill was badly managed but insufficient grounds to be demanding that the clock to wound back to suit these uber nationalists You really believe she was willing to resign Can you please send me a bottle of what you have been drinking she can say what ever she wants and 10 mins leter big brother will pull her into line Who do you think is running this country 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Suthep declares people’s uprising on Monday, Dec 9By Digital ContentBANGKOK, Dec 7 – Protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban made his boldest announcement last night, calling on Thai people nationwide to jointly stand up against the government on Monday, December 9.In an emotional speech to anti-government protesters which lasted almost two hours, the former Democrat MP urged people to leave their residences onto the city streets and head for a single destination - Government House – starting at 9.39 am.“It has to end. There is no point to prolong the fight. We have our responsibilities. The government is buying time until we are exhausted or bored. Our executive committee unanimously agreed that the fight must end on Monday, December 9,” said Mr Suthep, secretary-general of the People's Democratic Reform Committee.“Everybody in Thailand has to take a side. If you want to be a free man, you must come out. If you decide to be Thaksin’s slave for the rest of your life, stay at home.”He asked civil servants to go on strike and join the people’s massive demonstrations despite a reported attempt by the government to block them.“We will organise a countrywide uprising to take back our sovereignty. Provincial people should move to the city halls in their respective provinces to block civil servants from entering their offices. Students should also rise up in unison to reject the Thaksin regime.”Every road in Bangkok will lead to Government House on Monday, to show the people’s unity to the world, said Mr Suthep.The former deputy prime minister said he and protest leaders agreed that the protest must end to stop inconveniences and suffering among protesters, and they would accept the consequences no matter the outcome.“We’ll be slaves if we don’t win. There is no other alternative. The nine of us are willing to accept the insurrection charges. Let us wait until December 9 to see who will be defeated. That is the end. There should be no more damages and casualties in the country.”Mr Suthep and eight Democrat MPs announced their resignations from the House of Representatives last month to be fully involved in the anti-government movement.The former Surat Thani MP said he would lead protesters from the Government Complex on Changwattana Road to Government House, about 17 km away, while protesters on Rajdamnoen Avenue and the Finance Ministry will simultaneously leave their rally sites for the same destination.“If you don’t want to join, please stay at home, because traffic in the city will be heavily congested,” he warned.“We have played our final card and gone all-in. We will accept the outcome, be it triumph or defeat. We have to be realistic that an insufficient number of people, despite their courage and unity, may result in deaths or injuries for this government has no mercy on people. We have to overcome fear. Our victory relies on the number of people who come out to join the fight.” (MCOT online news)-- TNA 2013-12-07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Harry2 Posted December 7, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2013 We should be careful not to besmirch the term 'D-Day' which was an epic battle against fascists like Suthep. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prbkk Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Yes, I think she would resign and that would be a good thing if it leads to peace. But the govt should remain in place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) A two hour speech (Style of North Korea?) instigating nationwide disruption! He just gets better! Edited December 7, 2013 by Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackrich Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Yes, I think she would resign and that would be a good thing if it leads to peace. But the govt should remain in place That doesn't satisfy Suthep and his minions, though. He will just complain again about Thaksin still pulling the strings. It would in the end just show weakness for the elected government and tell every thug that it's okay to do this and that they will in the end be rewarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Dear Khun Suthep Please choose any or all of these titles for yourself. They reflect your style, philosophy and personality. . add Supreme Buy Scout and Ever Victorious Iron Willed Commander...you deserve those as well. Your determination to take Thailand down this lunatic path would be supported by the fraternity of the like-minded in the north . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kim_Jong-il%27s_titles No need to go that far for advice, they know how to do it here too. How about Supreme Liberator And Heavenly Light Of Krungthepmahanakhon Amonrattanakosin Mahintharayutthaya Mahadilokphop Noppharatratchathaniburirom Udomratchaniwetmahasathan Amonphimanawatansathit Sakkathattiyawitsanukamprasit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captspectre Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I can only pray he will win, but he sounds to be walking on his lasts legs. you want him to ovethrow a duly elected government? get you ass back to where you come from! ever heard of free elections? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydeco Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I live, here, in Thailand. I work, here. But never have I felt better about being nothing more than a long term tourist in this country. Things have no more chance of improving, here, than a train does of making it from Bangkok to Chiang Mai without derailing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokemachine Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 YUP 9TH IS THE D-DAY. Hope everything will ends well. I think most people know the outcome on 9th. The TS regime is too large. Most probably Supthep will lose badly. When on 10th comes, the ''terrorists'' will come out, innocent citizens will be targeted and sacrificed again. They will do what ever it takes even taking their own Thai people life. Look at the shooting, news of sniper. You can never win the ''terrorist'' with just our bare hands. When anti-govt are defeated on 9th Dec, people will have to remember who really care for the nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmac Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 YUP 9TH IS THE D-DAY. Hope everything will ends well. I think most people know the outcome on 9th. The TS regime is too large. Most probably Supthep will lose badly. When on 10th comes, the ''terrorists'' will come out, innocent citizens will be targeted and sacrificed again. They will do what ever it takes even taking their own Thai people life. Look at the shooting, news of sniper. You can never win the ''terrorist'' with just our bare hands. When anti-govt are defeated on 9th Dec, people will have to remember who really care for the nation. What on Earth are you talking about? You seem to have forgotten that the last time "innocent civilians" were targeted for slaughter by armed gunmen was when your dear leader Suthep unleashed the army on the redshirts. On a different note, I'm pleased to see that even the most die-hard Suthepistas have accepted that the buffoon has run out of steam, and that D-Day will be a total fiasco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokemachine Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 YUP 9TH IS THE D-DAY. Hope everything will ends well. I think most people know the outcome on 9th. The TS regime is too large. Most probably Supthep will lose badly. When on 10th comes, the ''terrorists'' will come out, innocent citizens will be targeted and sacrificed again. They will do what ever it takes even taking their own Thai people life. Look at the shooting, news of sniper. You can never win the ''terrorist'' with just our bare hands. When anti-govt are defeated on 9th Dec, people will have to remember who really care for the nation. What on Earth are you talking about? You seem to have forgotten that the last time "innocent civilians" were targeted for slaughter by armed gunmen was when your dear leader Suthep unleashed the army on the redshirts. On a different note, I'm pleased to see that even the most die-hard Suthepistas have accepted that the buffoon has run out of steam, and that D-Day will be a total fiasco. oh ya.. those INNOCENT red shirts arming with guns, machine guns, grenade launchers bombing away our Bangkok city. I forgot. 55555555+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godden Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 A good solution would be one in which Thailand is not sent back into the dark ages . already there old chap, unless they set fire to every thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokemachine Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 YUP 9TH IS THE D-DAY. Hope everything will ends well. I think most people know the outcome on 9th. The TS regime is too large. Most probably Supthep will lose badly. When on 10th comes, the ''terrorists'' will come out, innocent citizens will be targeted and sacrificed again. They will do what ever it takes even taking their own Thai people life. Look at the shooting, news of sniper. You can never win the ''terrorist'' with just our bare hands. When anti-govt are defeated on 9th Dec, people will have to remember who really care for the nation. What on Earth are you talking about? You seem to have forgotten that the last time "innocent civilians" were targeted for slaughter by armed gunmen was when your dear leader Suthep unleashed the army on the redshirts. On a different note, I'm pleased to see that even the most die-hard Suthepistas have accepted that the buffoon has run out of steam, and that D-Day will be a total fiasco. And by the way, i'm not a fan of Suthep. cheers~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post huahinjoe Posted December 7, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2013 I'm not on either side but its getting so bored to see Sir Suthep talking alone always about people's government but so far failed to show up any plan or at least a technocrat team behind him who he think could lead the country out of this mess... Here is a country with good logistical location, tourism and investment opportunities and so far thats all what they can achieve (both sides) what we seeing nowadays. Such a pity against competitive business friendly commerce, sustainable growth and eco-friendly environment for the sake of the Nation and the next generation... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thait Spot Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I can only pray he will win, but he sounds to be walking on his lasts legs. you want him to ovethrow a duly elected government? get you ass back to where you come from! ever heard of free elections? What remains of democracy when the elected government lies and cheats and deceives to get its evil way? The PTP were in, had 2 years in the seat and blew it. Time to go Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 A link to a Thai news article has been deleted. Since the majority of our posters probably can't read the article, it is hard to discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puccini Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 [suthep] reiterated that once he leaves the rally site of Govrnment Complex for the Government House, he will not go back. "I will accept the results of the December 9 battle. If we don’t win, I will turn myself in to face the charge," he told the cheering crowds. Who will be the referee to judge at the close of Monday whether he will have won "the battle"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpeg Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Yes, I think she would resign and that would be a good thing if it leads to peace. But the govt should remain in place That doesn't satisfy Suthep and his minions, though. He will just complain again about Thaksin still pulling the strings. It would in the end just show weakness for the elected government and tell every thug that it's okay to do this and that they will in the end be rewarded. But he would be wouldn't he. How many puppet pm's now? Not that I give a toss either way now. They should've let Taksin implode and they should let this current manifestation of his maladministration implode also. you really can't fool all the people ALL the time, not even Thais Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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