Popular Post webfact Posted December 7, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2013 Govt party rejects PM Yingluck's resignation, House dissolutionBy Digital ContentBANGKOK, Dec 7 – The ruling Pheu Thai Party agreed yesterday to set up a public forum to find resolutions for Thailand, but insisted that the prime minister would neither resign nor dissolve the House.Pheu Thai leader Charupong Ruangsuwan, who is also the interior minister, said the party strongly supported Ms Yingluck Shinawatra as Thailand’s prime minister and praised her for handling the political turmoil without resorting to violence.Pheu Thai party members held a special meeting yesterday to discuss the month-long political crisis and said they would forward to the prime minister and the Cabinet their agreement on a public forum to be participated by all segments of Thai society.Pheu Thai spokesman Prompong Nopparit said party members rejected the protesters’ demand for a people’s council and an interim prime minister under the stipulation of Section 7 of the Constitution, as proposed by protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban.Mr Prompong said the party has requested an investigation into the financial support for the demonstrations and find out the major financiers in order to take stern legal action against them.Pichit Cheunban, Pheu Thai's legal adviser, said the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) has been involved in various protest-related activities in violation of the Internal Security Act.Security authorities had sent written warnings to the BMA while Pheu Thai Party will collect evidence to take action against it, he said.The BMA is under the leadership of governor Sukhumbhand Paripatra, a member of the opposition Democrat Party. (MCOT online news)-- TNA 2013-12-07 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TVGerry Posted December 7, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2013 Why waste time with the forum? It's not like you guys are going to listen anyway. This kind of fake crap is just a waste of taxpayer money. You might as well continue misruling this country and stealing from it until the next wave of protests. That is provided you survive this coming Monday of course. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ricku Posted December 7, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2013 Why waste time with the forum? It's not like you guys are going to listen anyway. This kind of fake crap is just a waste of taxpayer money. You might as well continue misruling this country and stealing from it until the next wave of protests. That is provided you survive this coming Monday of course. I think they will survive it just fine. The yellows will never be able to topple the government without backup from the military. Unlike the red shirt horde, the yellows are pretty harmless.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angsta Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Why waste time with the forum? It's not like you guys are going to listen anyway. This kind of fake crap is just a waste of taxpayer money. You might as well continue misruling this country and stealing from it until the next wave of protests. That is provided you survive this coming Monday of course. Another peoples day? Haven't we been here before? Give me a break. It is over. Democracy Monument is dead apart from the empty stalls but all the people have left. They turn up on the weekends and then leave. Suck it up. The party is over TVGerry... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gone Posted December 7, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2013 I hope Thailand can end this conflict without any more fighting and also hope the Thai people can accept whatever government rules and move on happily. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post marcusd Posted December 7, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2013 Say all see all.. Continue as normal. Do nothing. The government will win by doing nothing. The military will not intervene. What will happen? Business will go elsewhere as they are looking now at other more "attractable" countries. And Thailand goes backwards to where they started from. The baht plummets. Foreigners find alternate places and the Thai people suffer again. But who can have pity on them? They sold their souls to the devil for 500baht a vote. Sent from my RM-892_apac_laos_thailand_219 using Tapatalk 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TVGerry Posted December 7, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2013 Why waste time with the forum? It's not like you guys are going to listen anyway. This kind of fake crap is just a waste of taxpayer money. You might as well continue misruling this country and stealing from it until the next wave of protests. That is provided you survive this coming Monday of course. Another peoples day? Haven't we been here before? Give me a break. It is over. Democracy Monument is dead apart from the empty stalls but all the people have left. They turn up on the weekends and then leave. Suck it up. The party is over TVGerry... If the government survives this Monday, then yes, this round of protests is over. However, knowing this corrupt government, they'll just screw up again big time with another idiot scheme to bring back dear leader or something else idiotic. Then it starts all over again. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lungmi Posted December 7, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2013 My dog, the best future teller Thailand has, told me some minutes ago: Expect the Unexpected. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jomtienjinx2013 Posted December 7, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2013 Why waste time with the forum? It's not like you guys are going to listen anyway. This kind of fake crap is just a waste of taxpayer money. You might as well continue misruling this country and stealing from it until the next wave of protests. That is provided you survive this coming Monday of course. I think they will survive it just fine. The yellows will never be able to topple the government without backup from the military. Unlike the red shirt horde, the yellows are pretty harmless.. I am no fan of either the ruling [party or the PM, but I believe credit where credit is due and the PM has handled this problem extremely well. Undoubtedly the pressure on her last week was immense but she withstood it and I think there is every possibility that she will go on to be one of Thailands best Prime Ministers. she certainly need not fear the leader of the opposition who does not appear to have any idea of how to respond or deal with the Government. I have much sympathy for Sutheep, who has been hung out to dry by his so-called friends/aquaintances. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaipod Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) Hope it's not the same as the water / flood management public forums where they only invite their own supporters Edited December 8, 2013 by metisdead Unnecessary usage of bold font removed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Roadman Posted December 7, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2013 Why waste time with the forum? It's not like you guys are going to listen anyway. This kind of fake crap is just a waste of taxpayer money. You might as well continue misruling this country and stealing from it until the next wave of protests. That is provided you survive this coming Monday of course. I think they will survive it just fine. The yellows will never be able to topple the government without backup from the military. Unlike the red shirt horde, the yellows are pretty harmless.. I am no fan of either the ruling [party or the PM, but I believe credit where credit is due and the PM has handled this problem extremely well. Undoubtedly the pressure on her last week was immense but she withstood it and I think there is every possibility that she will go on to be one of Thailands best Prime Ministers. she certainly need not fear the leader of the opposition who does not appear to have any idea of how to respond or deal with the Government. I have much sympathy for Sutheep, who has been hung out to dry by his so-called friends/aquaintances. One of Thailand's best Prime Minister's? That indicates that the rest of Thailand's Prime Minister's had all been imbecile puppet mouth pieces, or your acceptance level for Prime Minister's is very low. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JRSoul Posted December 7, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) I am no fan of either the ruling [party or the PM, but I believe credit where credit is due and the PM has handled this problem extremely well. Undoubtedly the pressure on her last week was immense but she withstood it and I think there is every possibility that she will go on to be one of Thailands best Prime Ministers. she certainly need not fear the leader of the opposition who does not appear to have any idea of how to respond or deal with the Government. I have much sympathy for Sutheep, who has been hung out to dry by his so-called friends/aquaintances. One of Thailand's best Prime Ministers? The one who gave it the great rice scam impoverishing millions while stealing billions? Thats taking sycophancy a little too far. I'm glad you're not a fan or we would have to bring back idol worship. Edited December 7, 2013 by JRSoul 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LuckyLew Posted December 7, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2013 Why waste time with the forum? It's not like you guys are going to listen anyway. This kind of fake crap is just a waste of taxpayer money. You might as well continue misruling this country and stealing from it until the next wave of protests. That is provided you survive this coming Monday of course. I think they will survive it just fine. The yellows will never be able to topple the government without backup from the military. Unlike the red shirt horde, the yellows are pretty harmless.. I am no fan of either the ruling [party or the PM, but I believe credit where credit is due and the PM has handled this problem extremely well. Undoubtedly the pressure on her last week was immense but she withstood it and I think there is every possibility that she will go on to be one of Thailands best Prime Ministers. she certainly need not fear the leader of the opposition who does not appear to have any idea of how to respond or deal with the Government. I have much sympathy for Sutheep, who has been hung out to dry by his so-called friends/aquaintances. And what exactly is it you think she had handled well? She has done nada ... squat .. zilch ... She has people standing in for her every where even her weekly radio show was a stand in. Her idea of a forum of all parties is laughable ... they had one not too long ago and all ideas were listened too and the promptly ignored So what has she done other than enable her brother to run the country? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PeterSmiles Posted December 7, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2013 Why waste time with the forum? It's not like you guys are going to listen anyway. This kind of fake crap is just a waste of taxpayer money. You might as well continue misruling this country and stealing from it until the next wave of protests. That is provided you survive this coming Monday of course. I think they will survive it just fine. The yellows will never be able to topple the government without backup from the military. Unlike the red shirt horde, the yellows are pretty harmless.. Unlike the red shirt horde, the yellows are pretty harmless peaceful 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rubl Posted December 7, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2013 "Pichit Cheunban, Pheu Thai's legal adviser, said the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) has been involved in various protest-related activities in violation of the Internal Security Act.Security authorities had sent written warnings to the BMA while Pheu Thai Party will collect evidence to take action against it, he said." Does this include all the help the BMA gave another bunch of anti-government protesters, in March - May 2010 ? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surangw Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 no one else wants to take over the blame for the mess the country is in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I hope Thailand can end this conflict without any more fighting and also hope the Thai people can accept whatever government rules and move on happily. Well it sounds wonderful. End it with no conflict and go back to the government screwing the country. Just a warm and fuzzy thought that is. All the people who tried to change it to a more honest government just wasted their time trying to bring a little more honesty into the government.. I am not recommending armed conflict but there definatly needs to be some conflict with in the government to bring about a change. Like it or not Yingluck is not going get up some morning and tell her brother on their daily phone conversation she is the boss and start moving some of his scum out. As we all know now Thailand has become more corrupt in the last two years than ever before. check out Corruption Perceptions Index 2013 - Results 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilly Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 New theme song for our dear Ms Yingluck? The Clash...'Should I Stay or Should I Go Now' http://youtu.be/GqH21LEmfbQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 “Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practice to deceive” And deception is pretty much all that PTP have, and the other side, to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerraPosse Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Say all see all.. Continue as normal. Do nothing. The government will win by doing nothing. The military will not intervene. What will happen? Business will go elsewhere as they are looking now at other more "attractable" countries. And Thailand goes backwards to where they started from. The baht plummets. Foreigners find alternate places and the Thai people suffer again. But who can have pity on them? They sold their souls to the devil for 500baht a vote. Sent from my RM-892_apac_laos_thailand_219 using Tapatalk Well, she may have adopted / learned this winning strategy from one of the more successful (as in staying in power) world leaders who just won her third term in office this year by habitually sitting out any affair/problem/conflict. I'm talking about the German Chancellor Angie Merkel. Angie too is always infuriating her political opponents by doing exactly zilch whenever the opposition / pressure groups / whoever demand the chancellor to take action. Most recent examples are overspending and related cover-ups in the defence ministry led by one of her proteges and her deafening silence on the whole NSA affair (well, until it became public her phone too was monitored/listened to). Yet, she remains on of the most popular politicians in Germany. So, who can blame Yingluck to emulate such a successful strategy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waza Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Say all see all.. Continue as normal. Do nothing. The government will win by doing nothing. The military will not intervene. What will happen? Business will go elsewhere as they are looking now at other more "attractable" countries. And Thailand goes backwards to where they started from. The baht plummets. Foreigners find alternate places and the Thai people suffer again. But who can have pity on them? They sold their souls to the devil for 500baht a vote. Sent from my RM-892_apac_laos_thailand_219 using Tapatalk Well, she may have adopted / learned this winning strategy from one of the more successful (as in staying in power) world leaders who just won her third term in office this year by habitually sitting out any affair/problem/conflict. I'm talking about the German Chancellor Angie Merkel. Angie too is always infuriating her political opponents by doing exactly zilch whenever the opposition / pressure groups / whoever demand the chancellor to take action. Most recent examples are overspending and related cover-ups in the defence ministry led by one of her proteges and her deafening silence on the whole NSA affair (well, until it became public her phone too was monitored/listened to). Yet, she remains on of the most popular politicians in Germany. So, who can blame Yingluck to emulate such a successful strategy? I think what your confusing here is that Merkel has a deliberate strategy while Yingluck is just pig ignorant and must wait for her brother to tell her what to say. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scorecard Posted December 7, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2013 Why waste time with the forum? It's not like you guys are going to listen anyway. This kind of fake crap is just a waste of taxpayer money. You might as well continue misruling this country and stealing from it until the next wave of protests. That is provided you survive this coming Monday of course. I think they will survive it just fine. The yellows will never be able to topple the government without backup from the military. Unlike the red shirt horde, the yellows are pretty harmless.. More of your either red or your yellow. Perhaps you missed: - The masses who have been protesting who are neither red or yellow, and those that support some aspects of the red cause and at the same time some aspects of the yellow thinking. - The masses who's main concern is the rape of this country. - The masses who gave great concern for the fact that a nasty dictatorship is developing under their noses. - The masses who can see that the rice pledging scheme, and other stuff is bankrupting the country and has no credibility whatever. - The masses who can see that the attempts to get approval for trillions of baht with no planning is just corruption taken to and past the end of the scale. - The masses who can see that people at the top of many ministries and agencies have no capability whatever for the jobs they have been appointed to and in reality are not interested anyway. That should do for starters. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crushdepth Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Say all see all.. Continue as normal. Do nothing. The government will win by doing nothing. The military will not intervene. What will happen? Business will go elsewhere as they are looking now at other more "attractable" countries. And Thailand goes backwards to where they started from. The baht plummets. Foreigners find alternate places and the Thai people suffer again. But who can have pity on them? They sold their souls to the devil for 500baht a vote. Sent from my RM-892_apac_laos_thailand_219 using Tapatalk Well, she may have adopted / learned this winning strategy from one of the more successful (as in staying in power) world leaders who just won her third term in office this year by habitually sitting out any affair/problem/conflict. I'm talking about the German Chancellor Angie Merkel. Angie too is always infuriating her political opponents by doing exactly zilch whenever the opposition / pressure groups / whoever demand the chancellor to take action. Most recent examples are overspending and related cover-ups in the defence ministry led by one of her proteges and her deafening silence on the whole NSA affair (well, until it became public her phone too was monitored/listened to). Yet, she remains on of the most popular politicians in Germany. So, who can blame Yingluck to emulate such a successful strategy? She didn't learn or emulate anything. She is a vacuous puppet appointed, party listed and controlled by her big brother. There is nothing impressive about this "I was unaware of that" dolly girl whatsoever. She doesn't even turn up to Parliament half the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chooka Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 How many out of 68 million are protesting? If there are say 34 million and 1 then yea dissolve the government as the majority have spoken then have fresh elections ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuaHinHarold Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 How many out of 68 million are protesting? If there are say 34 million and 1 then yea dissolve the government as the majority have spoken then have fresh elections ASAP. A well thought out, sensible, and very often previously-duplicated requirement. have another round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerraPosse Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Say all see all.. Continue as normal. Do nothing. The government will win by doing nothing. The military will not intervene. What will happen? Business will go elsewhere as they are looking now at other more "attractable" countries. And Thailand goes backwards to where they started from. The baht plummets. Foreigners find alternate places and the Thai people suffer again. But who can have pity on them? They sold their souls to the devil for 500baht a vote. Sent from my RM-892_apac_laos_thailand_219 using Tapatalk Well, she may have adopted / learned this winning strategy from one of the more successful (as in staying in power) world leaders who just won her third term in office this year by habitually sitting out any affair/problem/conflict. I'm talking about the German Chancellor Angie Merkel. Angie too is always infuriating her political opponents by doing exactly zilch whenever the opposition / pressure groups / whoever demand the chancellor to take action. Most recent examples are overspending and related cover-ups in the defence ministry led by one of her proteges and her deafening silence on the whole NSA affair (well, until it became public her phone too was monitored/listened to). Yet, she remains on of the most popular politicians in Germany. So, who can blame Yingluck to emulate such a successful strategy? I think what your confusing here is that Merkel has a deliberate strategy while Yingluck is just pig ignorant and must wait for her brother to tell her what to say. I'm not confusing anything, just merely hypothesizing whilst your bias clearly has got the better of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeO Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 The result of this party meeting appears to be nothing less than an all-out vendetta against anyone who opposes this government. They have rejected everything, including logical, peaceful options of resignation and house dissolution leading to new elections. They are even going after Sukhumbhand for being involved in "protest-related activities", which we must assume refers to that 'outrageous' incident of providing toilet facilities in order to maintain hygiene and cleanliness at protest sites. I recall they were up in arms at such 'disgraceful' support for the demonstrators; we all know, however, that that's actually a lot less than the very same people did for their armed supporters three years ago, but of course that's all conveniently forgotten. And an investigation into the financial support provided for the demonstrations ... give me a break! Like the PTP is squeaky clean...!! They even brought in paid snipers and potential arsonists for chrissakes...!! This is a dangerous path that YL and the PTP have chosen, and it will be their undoing...! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerraPosse Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Say all see all.. Continue as normal. Do nothing. The government will win by doing nothing. The military will not intervene. What will happen? Business will go elsewhere as they are looking now at other more "attractable" countries. And Thailand goes backwards to where they started from. The baht plummets. Foreigners find alternate places and the Thai people suffer again. But who can have pity on them? They sold their souls to the devil for 500baht a vote. Sent from my RM-892_apac_laos_thailand_219 using Tapatalk Well, she may have adopted / learned this winning strategy from one of the more successful (as in staying in power) world leaders who just won her third term in office this year by habitually sitting out any affair/problem/conflict. I'm talking about the German Chancellor Angie Merkel. Angie too is always infuriating her political opponents by doing exactly zilch whenever the opposition / pressure groups / whoever demand the chancellor to take action. Most recent examples are overspending and related cover-ups in the defence ministry led by one of her proteges and her deafening silence on the whole NSA affair (well, until it became public her phone too was monitored/listened to). Yet, she remains on of the most popular politicians in Germany. So, who can blame Yingluck to emulate such a successful strategy? She didn't learn or emulate anything. She is a vacuous puppet appointed, party listed and controlled by her big brother. There is nothing impressive about this "I was unaware of that" dolly girl whatsoever. She doesn't even turn up to Parliament half the time. Having had no dealings personally with any of the Shinawatras, I will refrain from making any such bold claims as you do. Underestimate your opponents at your peril. Suthep and his minions were clearly outmanoeuvred last week though and if I were a betting man I would expect their so called 'D-Day' tomorrow to fall short of any tangible results, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Say all see all.. Continue as normal. Do nothing. The government will win by doing nothing. The military will not intervene. What will happen? Business will go elsewhere as they are looking now at other more "attractable" countries. And Thailand goes backwards to where they started from. The baht plummets. Foreigners find alternate places and the Thai people suffer again. But who can have pity on them? They sold their souls to the devil for 500baht a vote. Sent from my RM-892_apac_laos_thailand_219 using Tapatalk Well, she may have adopted / learned this winning strategy from one of the more successful (as in staying in power) world leaders who just won her third term in office this year by habitually sitting out any affair/problem/conflict. I'm talking about the German Chancellor Angie Merkel. Angie too is always infuriating her political opponents by doing exactly zilch whenever the opposition / pressure groups / whoever demand the chancellor to take action. Most recent examples are overspending and related cover-ups in the defence ministry led by one of her proteges and her deafening silence on the whole NSA affair (well, until it became public her phone too was monitored/listened to). Yet, she remains on of the most popular politicians in Germany. So, who can blame Yingluck to emulate such a successful strategy? Germany is the 12 least corrupt country in the world with a score of 72. 100 being perfect Thailand is the 102 least corrupt with a score of 35. 0 being the most corrupt. No comparison. Care to share any thing else you don;t know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 This lets 'real-PM' Yingluck off-the-hook, for her previous offer to resign & hold new elections, as part of the solution to these protests, doesn't it ? She doesn't have to do it now after all, 'her' brother party wouldn't dream of letting her, 'refreshers' all round chaps ! Although it's still the best solution IMO, because it would finally kill the controversial 'suspended' Amnesty-Bill, and take away much of the support for Suthep on-the-streets. How happy that not a single one of the PTP MPs disagreed with the orders to hang onto power at all costs proposal ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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