Felang/ferang

[Goompa]

Has the Tread /Post / Poster / Topic ? link finished yet ?

This is hurting my head!

[transam]

Most of the time Mrs.Trans calls me darling But, now and again if I am in the bad books I am farang trans...........

[krisb]

It's ok, my wife calls me lazy as well, but I'm a good Dad

[transam]

The first step naam......................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=KoYOraDt1_k,

[Neeranam]

Firstly, 'farang kee ngok"(not nok) means stingy.

This is what many hear as "farang kee nok" as they can't differentiate between the ng and n sound.

The kee in 'kee ngok' doesn't mean shit, it is the word used in Thai that proceeds, a usually negative, trait eg

kee mao(drunk), kee neeow(stingy) kee bon(complainer), kee gong(cheat) etc.

"Kee nok" doesn't mean bird shit, it means 'fake'. Thai people are also called "farang kee nok" if they show negative traits of a foreigner. It is also a type of fruit - guava green on the outside but red on the inside. It is an inferior type of guava. Now this farang kee nok is called such as it spread around by birds eating the seeds then flying away and dropping the seed elsewhere.

These days it has come to be an insult to any foreigner. It used to mean an unwashed, barefooted, hippy type of Khao San Road backpacker, or a scruffy English teacher with little money. Thai people see them as fake as they have an image of the typical Westerner being rich.

[Neeranam]

Farang is not polite. Correct for foriegner is chao tang chat.

Thailand lazy to speak. Correct to say chao tang chat from England, Africa, India. Lazy to say farang, niggor, kek. Talk about skin color not polite. In Thai we use adjective very much. Some not good.

You have wife say farang is okay. Ask her about what I say.

It's no use telling them Thaiblether - I have for years and they are totally in denial.

[DrTuner]

Ferang = feral animal of the ng class ?

I think I'm re-finding myself as a nitpicker and quite liking it.

[metisdead]

A post containing racist slurs has been removed as well as the replies. Another post containing Thai language has been removed, this is an English language forum, English language is the only acceptable language, except of course for the Thai language forum where Thai language is allowed.

[ultimate weapon]

OP doesn't know how most white ppl think like. It's ok for them to call other races asians/gooks/chinks/slants or niggers/negroes and it's nothing offensive but the minute other races refer to them in their own language which in most cases isn't offensive it's just what they call them oh yes they take the biggest offence.

[puukao]

You know what they say, "it's not what you say, but HOW you say it."

[NeverSure]

OP doesn't know how most white ppl think like. It's ok for them to call other races asians/gooks/chinks/slants or niggers/negroes and it's nothing offensive but the minute other races refer to them in their own language which in most cases isn't offensive it's just what they call them oh yes they take the biggest offence.

I will mention that someone is Asian or Negro if it's important in the conversation. I don't mind someone saying that I am a farang if it matters in the conversation.

But I would never call some "Asian" or "Negro" as if that was his name. I would expect him to be offended.

"Negro, come over here" might get me punched in the nose. I would expect "Asian, come over here" to be offensive.

However, I like being called "Farang" because it means I'm light skinned, tall, rich, hansom ma' and have a big johnson.

[thailiketoo]

You know what they say, "it's not what you say, but HOW you say it."

Is there a sweet way to say the N word? Do Thai people say to little Farang babies, "look at the little Farang how cute, coochie coochie coo?"

Edited December 17, 2013 by thailiketoo

[tuky]

It is interesting that you only hear westerners use the word ferang or felang.

Thais use Farang.

Segway into PattEYEya and Fooket discussion as it is normally these same westerners.

[ultimate weapon]

OP doesn't know how most white ppl think like. It's ok for them to call other races asians/gooks/chinks/slants or niggers/negroes and it's nothing offensive but the minute other races refer to them in their own language which in most cases isn't offensive it's just what they call them oh yes they take the biggest offence.

I will mention that someone is Asian or Negro if it's important in the conversation. I don't mind someone saying that I am a farang if it matters in the conversation.

But I would never call some "Asian" or "Negro" as if that was his name. I would expect him to be offended.

"Negro, come over here" might get me punched in the nose. I would expect "Asian, come over here" to be offensive.

However, I like being called "Farang" because it means I'm light skinned, tall, rich, hansom ma' and have a big johnson.

I didn't know farang equated to being tall, rich or handsome just that one is light skinned that's like a negro saying i like being called one cos i am tall, atheletic, good looking and have a big one.

[Costas2008]

mca, on 16 Dec 2013 - 15:24, said:

I've never heard this word farang used by Thai people. I think it would be worth starting a thread as to its origins and whether it is considered insulting or not.

I suggest, you visit an ear doctor.

It must be something wrong with your hearing!!!

[gchurch259]

CharlieH, Is that picture you or your girl friend, I always liked Mrs Claus.

Any way I have been maried to a very nice Kingdom of Thailand lady for nearly ten years. My nick name is Jerry, very easy almost like Jaidee, if I spelled it correct. But, the object is everyone in her family even my Mother-in-law refers to me as Farang. So if it bothered me very much I would just move on. Of course at my age every girl on the street calls me Papa. I like the Chiness/Taiwaness they call me Ole Uncle, I like it better. Believe me I have been called much worse !!

Good Day all !! Jerry

[uptheos]

You know what they say, "it's not what you say, but HOW you say it."

Is there a sweet way to say the N word? Do Thai people say to little Farang babies, "look at the little Farang how cute, coochie coochie coo?"

Yes, I've heard 'the little farang baby' or 'the little farang child' said many times, but alas no coochie coochie coo.

[AloisAmrein]

It seems that nobody here knows the origin of the word farang or falang. Its origin is from the French colonial rule in Laos and Vietnam, which where French, Français in French. The word farang / falang has its origin in Français.

[In Search of Space]

Through work I have to see the government from time to time and I've been told they will ask "Is the falang coming ?", I don't see it as a big deal, as someone earlier said, it is how it is said

[Suradit69]

All Thais racially profile all the time. It is a facet of their culture.

So whilst 'farang' is not, in itself, a perjorative term, anything that a 'farang' does or says will be immediately linked to their race, 'farang', and not their personality. Indeed, many Thais get their facts about 'farangs' third or fourth-hand from somebody who may have perhaps worked with tourists as a taxi-driver or hotel receptionist or a middle-class Thai who may have spent a month at their Thai uncle's house in Oregon. These facts, once obtained, are then immediately applied to all others of the same race.

Same applies for 'Yippon', 'khaek', 'niggo', 'phama', 'eskimo', etc.

"All Thais racially profile all the time. It is a facet of their culture."

Name one country where this doesn't happen. In America racial epithets are an ever-expanding vocabulary and racial profiling is/has been considered legitimate cause to stop people to ask for papers, to confiscate property and send people to concentration camps during war, to deny someone the right to board an airplane, to prevent them from buying property ... Maybe you've heard about a major issue during WWII that caused a lot of people to be herded up and killed? I guess that was a facet of European culture??

If it weren't too offensive to post, I could fill up a lot of lines with racially-based derogatory names generated in the US, Europe, UK ...

It just amazes me that people come to Thailand, apparently from some existence in a bubble in their own countries, and start talking about Thai culture, when it's obvious they know nothing of the culture in which they spent all their lives. The shift from being a person in the majority to being in a minority seems to have caused the scales to fall from their eyes in their new setting ... but left them blinded by a memory of life in the imaginary fairyland from which they fled.

Edited December 17, 2013 by Suradit69

[mad mary]

I don't understand why felangs call other ferangs ,farang!

[aveabeeror2]

Topic done to the death already. Get a life.

[stephen tracy]

"kee nok", which literally translated means "bird shit", is the Thai equivalent of the English term "white trash", so it covers more than just socio-economically deprived Caucasian Westerns, it also stretches to cover a broader cross-section of Westerners such as sex-tourists, sex-pats and other general embarrasing white trash that Thailand tends to attract. This is the price of having a sex industry I suppose, as well as being a comparatively cheap travel destination. When you walk up Sukumuvit road, it's not difficult to see why the term exists.

[lostmebike]

Beam me up someone! This is getting so boring now. Have we really got nothing else to post other than this old tripe?

[transam]

Beam me up someone! This is getting so boring now. Have we really got nothing else to post other than this old tripe?

Weeeeeeelll, I could talk about tyre pressures if you like.......

[Mudcrab]

CharlieH, Is that picture you or your girl friend, I always liked Mrs Claus.

Any way I have been maried to a very nice Kingdom of Thailand lady for nearly ten years. My nick name is Jerry, very easy almost like Jaidee, if I spelled it correct. But, the object is everyone in her family even my Mother-in-law refers to me as Farang. So if it bothered me very much I would just move on. Of course at my age every girl on the street calls me Papa. I like the Chiness/Taiwaness they call me Ole Uncle, I like it better. Believe me I have been called much worse !!

Good Day all !! Jerry

My missus calls be by my real name in English or sometime darling. Her Mum is picking up the English lingo. She thought I had two names and has learnt to say thank you in English and understand the context..Quite disturbing though when the MIL says thank you darling. We all get a good laugh including the MIL.

[Mudcrab]

All Thais racially profile all the time. It is a facet of their culture.

So whilst 'farang' is not, in itself, a perjorative term, anything that a 'farang' does or says will be immediately linked to their race, 'farang', and not their personality. Indeed, many Thais get their facts about 'farangs' third or fourth-hand from somebody who may have perhaps worked with tourists as a taxi-driver or hotel receptionist or a middle-class Thai who may have spent a month at their Thai uncle's house in Oregon. These facts, once obtained, are then immediately applied to all others of the same race.

Same applies for 'Yippon', 'khaek', 'niggo', 'phama', 'eskimo', etc.

"All Thais racially profile all the time. It is a facet of their culture."

Name one country where this doesn't happen. In America racial epithets are an ever-expanding vocabulary and racial profiling is/has been considered legitimate cause to stop people to ask for papers, to confiscate property and send people to concentration camps during war, to deny someone the right to board an airplane, to prevent them from buying property ... Maybe you've heard about a major issue during WWII that caused a lot of people to be herded up and killed? I guess that was a facet of European culture??

If it weren't too offensive to post, I could fill up a lot of lines with racially-based derogatory names generated in the US, Europe, UK ...

It just amazes me that people come to Thailand, apparently from some existence in a bubble in their own countries, and start talking about Thai culture, when it's obvious they know nothing of the culture in which they spent all their lives. The shift from being a person in the majority to being in a minority seems to have caused the scales to fall from their eyes in their new setting ... but left them blinded by a memory of life in the imaginary fairyland from which they fled.

I ran out of likes...but I like. maybe the word should be "farang bigot" for some people

[Benmart]

I served in the Army world-wide for 20 years followed by years in law enforcement. I have been called much worse than Farang, Felang, Ferrange, Ferenge, Phalang or however you prefer to spell it.

Some people use unkind words as pseudo-weapons to get a response and some use them out of ignorance. I prefer a verbal assault rather than a physical one. The former is easy to deflect and in the larger scope of my life, means little to me.

I march on and pray for the unfortunate ones that use words as a hateful alternatives to civil speech.

Peace All.

[bangarang]

Curious what would happen if you were to say Phu Thai Kee Nok

[Oishii]

It comes from a contraction of 'France people', so allow yourself to feel double offended.

Now, that's bad. We all know that the French don't wash and we don't want to be associated with that, especially as we've learned to use the bum gun.

But, at least the Thai people don't regard us as having a body odour problem, like the Japanese do. They refer to us as "Smelly/sweaty Gaijin".