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15 years ago my Rotary Club introduced the "Bring Your Bag Project" at the Printemps Supermarket at Seri Centre. At that time we could not convince Tesco to help us with the project. It is a pity that it took Tesco 15 years to copy our idea.

Even a retarded country like the Philippines is way ahead of Thailand in this. They have been struggling with brown paper bags for a few years already and they are also recycling every cardboard box which comes into the store as a delivery - it goes out as a customer's carry-all.

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Here in South Australia plastic bags were banned from use in any shop about 3 years ago. Cloth bags are sold in the stores at a cheap price. There are also cloth "cooler bags" lined with plastic and insulation to keep frozen and cold foods in good orger for at least a couple of hours. I take 5 bags to Supermarket each weekly shopping day.

NOW! This will shock you!!! Every bottle,and can, either glass or plastic, used to sell water, soft drinks, fruit juices, beer etc. has a 10cents Deposit on it. There are many depots where these items can be taken back to and the deposit returned. Now there are no bottles etc. on our beaches or lining the roadways.

Germany is well ahead of the pack - in German stores there is an automatic machine near the door, and each plastic bottle has a bar code. The machine scans and crushes the bottle and issues a voucher for the returned deposits.

Same with the US. The machines also crush and sort the aluminum, plastic, etc. to make storing and transporting easy. You walk away with a voucher that's good for cash or merchandise.

When the truck picks up my recycle can contents, it dumps it into a huge pile inside a big building. Then a conveyor belt lifts everything up onto a velocity separator. The principle is that if you get everything moving fast on a belt and throw it off the end, denser material will travel farther, and you'll get separate piles of items that are similar in density. A piece of steel will travel at speed up in the air a lot farther than a plastic bottle, and a crushed aluminum can will travel farther than a crushed plastic bottle. Paper will fall almost immediately.

So this leaves very little hand sorting to do, and all of those items have value and are sold to various recyclers who prepare them to be made into something else.

Beats the heck out of seeing it as litter, and people are making money doing it.

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I think all you ban the plastic bag enthusiasts should read some relevant facts before you get

so sure what you are advocating is in fact good for the environment.

http://savetheplasticbag.com/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/02/16/is-san-franciscos-ban-on-plastic-bags-making-people-sick-perhaps-not/

http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-science/paper-plastic1.htm

http://biotech-products.net/documents/The%20Plastic%20Bag%20vs%20Paper%20Bag.pdf

These are just 4 of many sights that show banning plastic bags for, in particular, paper bags is much more

detrimental to the environment than not banning them.

If you have not yet already read them you may be surprised!!! thumbsup.gifwai.gif

guess you did not even read your own link from the washingtonpost. it begins with an investigation that is pro plastic bags and later in the article its gets shot by an othee expert. So i did not bother your other links. Everyone with half a brain knows plastic bags are bad. Other bags might be bad if used wrong. But if used right they easily win out.

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So you failed to read the first link which lays out all the lies being told to support the anti-plastic

mob, disgraceful misuse of the truth. facepalm.gif

Your a funny guy and so are those campaigning for plastic bags.

Ill give you a hint, what is more renewable oil or trees ? What degrades faster plastic or paper.

Then the first incident with hot soup.. laughable so an accident happens i bet i can find pictures of hot soup going through plastic.

No need to think for yourself just believe anything anti green.

But i did read one thing that was interesting, if that plastic bag area the size of Texas does not exists that is great news. Does not mean we don't need to ban plastic as it stays too long in the environment but its great news if true.

But actually it does exist but not in the way it was portrayed in the media.

http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/about/media/how-big-great-pacific-garbage-patch-science-vs-myth.html

From the 4th link http://biotech-products.net/documents/The%20Plastic%20Bag%20vs%20Paper%20Bag.pdf

 

Use-Less-Stuff.com (“ULS”) has issued a report comparing plastic and paper grocery bags. ULS made the following findings:

1. Plastic bags generate 39% less greenhouse gas emissions than uncomposted paper bags, and 68% less greenhouse gas emissions than composted paper bags. The plastic bags generate 4,645 tons of CO2 equivalents per 150 million bags; while uncomposted paper bags generate 7,621 tons, and composted paper bags generate 14,558 tons, per 100 million bags produced.

2. Plastic bags consume less than 6% of the water needed to make paper bags. It takes 1004 gallons of water to produce 1000 paper bags and 58 gallons of water to produce 1500 plastic bags.

3. Plastic grocery bags consume 71% less energy during production than paper bags. Significantly, even though traditional disposable plastic bags are produced from fossil fuels, the total non-renewable energy consumed during their lifecycle is up to 36% less than the non-renewable energy consumed during the lifecycle of paper bags and up to 64% less than that consumed by biodegradable plastic bags.

4. Using paper sacks generates almost five times more solid waste than using plastic bags.

5. After four or more uses, reusable plastic bags are superior to all types of disposable bags -- paper, polyethylene and compostable plastic -- across all significant environmental indicators.

 

The ULS report concludes as follows

Legislation designed to reduce environmental impacts and litter by outlawing grocery bags based on the material from which they are produced will not deliver the intended results. While some litter reduction might take place, it would be outweighed by the disadvantages that would subsequently occur (increased solid waste and greenhouse gas emissions). Ironically, reducing the use of traditional plastic bags would not even reduce the reliance on fossil fuels, as paper and biodegradable plastic bags consume at least as much non-renewable energy during their full lifecycle.

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So you failed to read the first link which lays out all the lies being told to support the anti-plastic

mob, disgraceful misuse of the truth. facepalm.gif

Your a funny guy and so are those campaigning for plastic bags.

Ill give you a hint, what is more renewable oil or trees ? What degrades faster plastic or paper.

Then the first incident with hot soup.. laughable so an accident happens i bet i can find pictures of hot soup going through plastic.

No need to think for yourself just believe anything anti green.

But i did read one thing that was interesting, if that plastic bag area the size of Texas does not exists that is great news. Does not mean we don't need to ban plastic as it stays too long in the environment but its great news if true.

But actually it does exist but not in the way it was portrayed in the media.

http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/about/media/how-big-great-pacific-garbage-patch-science-vs-myth.html

From the 4th link http://biotech-products.net/documents/The%20Plastic%20Bag%20vs%20Paper%20Bag.pdf

 

Use-Less-Stuff.com (“ULS”) has issued a report comparing plastic and paper grocery bags. ULS made the following findings:

1. Plastic bags generate 39% less greenhouse gas emissions than uncomposted paper bags, and 68% less greenhouse gas emissions than composted paper bags. The plastic bags generate 4,645 tons of CO2 equivalents per 150 million bags; while uncomposted paper bags generate 7,621 tons, and composted paper bags generate 14,558 tons, per 100 million bags produced.

2. Plastic bags consume less than 6% of the water needed to make paper bags. It takes 1004 gallons of water to produce 1000 paper bags and 58 gallons of water to produce 1500 plastic bags.

3. Plastic grocery bags consume 71% less energy during production than paper bags. Significantly, even though traditional disposable plastic bags are produced from fossil fuels, the total non-renewable energy consumed during their lifecycle is up to 36% less than the non-renewable energy consumed during the lifecycle of paper bags and up to 64% less than that consumed by biodegradable plastic bags.

4. Using paper sacks generates almost five times more solid waste than using plastic bags.

5. After four or more uses, reusable plastic bags are superior to all types of disposable bags -- paper, polyethylene and compostable plastic -- across all significant environmental indicators.

 

The ULS report concludes as follows

Legislation designed to reduce environmental impacts and litter by outlawing grocery bags based on the material from which they are produced will not deliver the intended results. While some litter reduction might take place, it would be outweighed by the disadvantages that would subsequently occur (increased solid waste and greenhouse gas emissions). Ironically, reducing the use of traditional plastic bags would not even reduce the reliance on fossil fuels, as paper and biodegradable plastic bags consume at least as much non-renewable energy during their full lifecycle.

Too much of an inconvenient truth for all you greens then??? coffee1.gif

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A spokesperson for CP 7-11 said " This is insanity! Whatever next? No plastic straws?"

Yep, then we'll go back to Paper Straws and Paper comes from TREES, so the Tree Huggers will have a fit over that too.

This is simply a CHEAPSKATE Trick by Tesco to get out of supplying Biodegradable Plastic Bags and con customers into PAYING for their so-called Eco-Friendly bags.

Biodegradable plastic bags release CO2 into the atmosphere during the process of decay, not exactly Eco-friendly.

So does every breathing species on earth.

Do you think the plastic shopping bags that Tesco now wants customers to pay for are biodegradable or will they cause just as many problems as their free bags do now when they become unusable?

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Yes, excellent. I hope many more stores follow this initiative.

What, this initiative to help Tesco's bottom line?

From the picture it sure looks like the new bags are made from plastic, what's going to happen to them when they split at the seams or the handles detach themselves, which will happen. Perhaps they will just magically disappear and cause no pollution problems at all.

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From the 4th link http://biotech-products.net/documents/The%20Plastic%20Bag%20vs%20Paper%20Bag.pdf

 

Use-Less-Stuff.com (“ULS”) has issued a report comparing plastic and paper grocery bags. ULS made the following findings:

1. Plastic bags generate 39% less greenhouse gas emissions than uncomposted paper bags, and 68% less greenhouse gas emissions than composted paper bags. The plastic bags generate 4,645 tons of CO2 equivalents per 150 million bags; while uncomposted paper bags generate 7,621 tons, and composted paper bags generate 14,558 tons, per 100 million bags produced.

2. Plastic bags consume less than 6% of the water needed to make paper bags. It takes 1004 gallons of water to produce 1000 paper bags and 58 gallons of water to produce 1500 plastic bags.

3. Plastic grocery bags consume 71% less energy during production than paper bags. Significantly, even though traditional disposable plastic bags are produced from fossil fuels, the total non-renewable energy consumed during their lifecycle is up to 36% less than the non-renewable energy consumed during the lifecycle of paper bags and up to 64% less than that consumed by biodegradable plastic bags.

4. Using paper sacks generates almost five times more solid waste than using plastic bags.

5. After four or more uses, reusable plastic bags are superior to all types of disposable bags -- paper, polyethylene and compostable plastic -- across all significant environmental indicators.

 

The ULS report concludes as follows

Legislation designed to reduce environmental impacts and litter by outlawing grocery bags based on the material from which they are produced will not deliver the intended results. While some litter reduction might take place, it would be outweighed by the disadvantages that would subsequently occur (increased solid waste and greenhouse gas emissions). Ironically, reducing the use of traditional plastic bags would not even reduce the reliance on fossil fuels, as paper and biodegradable plastic bags consume at least as much non-renewable energy during their full lifecycle.

Actually not an inconvenient truth at all, it all depends how you calculate things.

But you are totally missing the point if you have some cloth bags that you use or even a paper bag and you use it say 5 times you have already won, you are just assuming single use. The whole point is that people will take reusable bags with them so bags are used more then once thus helping.

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From the 4th link http://biotech-products.net/documents/The%20Plastic%20Bag%20vs%20Paper%20Bag.pdf

 

Use-Less-Stuff.com (“ULS”) has issued a report comparing plastic and paper grocery bags. ULS made the following findings:

1. Plastic bags generate 39% less greenhouse gas emissions than uncomposted paper bags, and 68% less greenhouse gas emissions than composted paper bags. The plastic bags generate 4,645 tons of CO2 equivalents per 150 million bags; while uncomposted paper bags generate 7,621 tons, and composted paper bags generate 14,558 tons, per 100 million bags produced.

2. Plastic bags consume less than 6% of the water needed to make paper bags. It takes 1004 gallons of water to produce 1000 paper bags and 58 gallons of water to produce 1500 plastic bags.

3. Plastic grocery bags consume 71% less energy during production than paper bags. Significantly, even though traditional disposable plastic bags are produced from fossil fuels, the total non-renewable energy consumed during their lifecycle is up to 36% less than the non-renewable energy consumed during the lifecycle of paper bags and up to 64% less than that consumed by biodegradable plastic bags.

4. Using paper sacks generates almost five times more solid waste than using plastic bags.

5. After four or more uses, reusable plastic bags are superior to all types of disposable bags -- paper, polyethylene and compostable plastic -- across all significant environmental indicators.

 

The ULS report concludes as follows

Legislation designed to reduce environmental impacts and litter by outlawing grocery bags based on the material from which they are produced will not deliver the intended results. While some litter reduction might take place, it would be outweighed by the disadvantages that would subsequently occur (increased solid waste and greenhouse gas emissions). Ironically, reducing the use of traditional plastic bags would not even reduce the reliance on fossil fuels, as paper and biodegradable plastic bags consume at least as much non-renewable energy during their full lifecycle.

Actually not an inconvenient truth at all, it all depends how you calculate things.

But you are totally missing the point if you have some cloth bags that you use or even a paper bag and you use it say 5 times you have already won, you are just assuming single use. The whole point is that people will take reusable bags with them so bags are used more then once thus helping.

Are you seriously telling me you think people will re-use paper bags FIVE times?? cheesy.gif

You need to take a large reality pill or even several pills.

And who is selling you the reusable bags?, let me guess Tesco is, so not only are they

saving money on throw away recyclable plastic bags but they are boosting their obscene profits by

making us buy their reusable bag. Tesco could not give a monkeys about the environment

they only care about profit and if you think otherwise you are imho a fool!!!!

Five times cheesy.gifcheesy.gifcheesy.gif

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Big C sells them, Foodland and a few banks give them away from time to time, Makro sells them....etc. They are dirt cheap and reusable. Thus, reducing waste. Plus, if no bag is offered for your can of coke at 7-11, you'll just grab it and walk out the door rather than pay an extra few baht for a bag. Great idea.

I'm constantly telling the clerks to fill the bags up more. And to NOT put items in a bag (like the big bottles of soap that have a nice handle on them) that don't really need one. It's a struggle here.

This isn't about the bottom line. It's about reducing waste. Tesco in Europe already does this. I loved seeing all the shoppers with their own bags. If you didn't have one, you could buy one and keep it for future use. Great stuff.

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From the 4th link http://biotech-products.net/documents/The%20Plastic%20Bag%20vs%20Paper%20Bag.pdf

 

Use-Less-Stuff.com (“ULS”) has issued a report comparing plastic and paper grocery bags. ULS made the following findings:

1. Plastic bags generate 39% less greenhouse gas emissions than uncomposted paper bags, and 68% less greenhouse gas emissions than composted paper bags. The plastic bags generate 4,645 tons of CO2 equivalents per 150 million bags; while uncomposted paper bags generate 7,621 tons, and composted paper bags generate 14,558 tons, per 100 million bags produced.

2. Plastic bags consume less than 6% of the water needed to make paper bags. It takes 1004 gallons of water to produce 1000 paper bags and 58 gallons of water to produce 1500 plastic bags.

3. Plastic grocery bags consume 71% less energy during production than paper bags. Significantly, even though traditional disposable plastic bags are produced from fossil fuels, the total non-renewable energy consumed during their lifecycle is up to 36% less than the non-renewable energy consumed during the lifecycle of paper bags and up to 64% less than that consumed by biodegradable plastic bags.

4. Using paper sacks generates almost five times more solid waste than using plastic bags.

5. After four or more uses, reusable plastic bags are superior to all types of disposable bags -- paper, polyethylene and compostable plastic -- across all significant environmental indicators.

 

The ULS report concludes as follows

Legislation designed to reduce environmental impacts and litter by outlawing grocery bags based on the material from which they are produced will not deliver the intended results. While some litter reduction might take place, it would be outweighed by the disadvantages that would subsequently occur (increased solid waste and greenhouse gas emissions). Ironically, reducing the use of traditional plastic bags would not even reduce the reliance on fossil fuels, as paper and biodegradable plastic bags consume at least as much non-renewable energy during their full lifecycle.

Actually not an inconvenient truth at all, it all depends how you calculate things.

But you are totally missing the point if you have some cloth bags that you use or even a paper bag and you use it say 5 times you have already won, you are just assuming single use. The whole point is that people will take reusable bags with them so bags are used more then once thus helping.

Are you seriously telling me you think people will re-use paper bags FIVE times?? cheesy.gif

You need to take a large reality pill or even several pills.

And who is selling you the reusable bags?, let me guess Tesco is, so not only are they

saving money on throw away recyclable plastic bags but they are boosting their obscene profits by

making us buy their reusable bag. Tesco could not give a monkeys about the environment

they only care about profit and if you think otherwise you are imho a fool!!!!

Five times cheesy.gifcheesy.gifcheesy.gif

I am seriously telling you that in shops where there are no bags for sale and re usable bags (cloth not necessarily paper) people will bring their own bags. Have you ever been to a Makro ? People bring their own bags, i know I do. Most people are smart enough to figure out its better to use good multi-use bags even if made of a plastic compound.

Then sure sometimes people need to buy bags if they are caught out without but most people who shop do seem to plan that. I understand that planning and logic might be hard for some people.. you are probably one of that group.

Where I come from the Netherlands we are paying for plastic bags and most people who go shopping bring their own bags and they are used many more times as 5. Your points are totally moot and unrelevant. People adapt when they either cant get bags or have to pay for bags. Just ask just about anyone besides you in this topic. I wonder what that says about you.

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This is an ENORMOUS baby step, in bringing Thailand into the 21st century, and beginning to create an awareness of the environment, and perhaps the extreme degradation that plastic causes. A first step. Maybe it will get people thinking. Will compel them to re-use bags, and carry the more long term bags that many of us use exclusively. This will save millions of bags over time. Very positive, and kudos to Tesco for trying it. The need to establish respect for the environment here is tremendous. Not sure why so many people think it is ok to foul such a beautiful land. But, a baby step leads to larger steps down the road.

Well yes, the much trumpeted 7/11 ban on bags a couple of years ago worked out so well didn't it.

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Customers Service at Big C in Amnat Charoen hands out useful freebies like dishes cups or baskets when I show up with my grocery without the common plastic bags.

There are plenty of handy carton boxes available for free. These boxes will be sold and recycled after used.

Macro in Ubon leaves us without bags. Contents of our carts go straight in/on our truck. No problem.

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From the 4th link http://biotech-products.net/documents/The%20Plastic%20Bag%20vs%20Paper%20Bag.pdf

 

Use-Less-Stuff.com (“ULS”) has issued a report comparing plastic and paper grocery bags. ULS made the following findings:

1. Plastic bags generate 39% less greenhouse gas emissions than uncomposted paper bags, and 68% less greenhouse gas emissions than composted paper bags. The plastic bags generate 4,645 tons of CO2 equivalents per 150 million bags; while uncomposted paper bags generate 7,621 tons, and composted paper bags generate 14,558 tons, per 100 million bags produced.

2. Plastic bags consume less than 6% of the water needed to make paper bags. It takes 1004 gallons of water to produce 1000 paper bags and 58 gallons of water to produce 1500 plastic bags.

3. Plastic grocery bags consume 71% less energy during production than paper bags. Significantly, even though traditional disposable plastic bags are produced from fossil fuels, the total non-renewable energy consumed during their lifecycle is up to 36% less than the non-renewable energy consumed during the lifecycle of paper bags and up to 64% less than that consumed by biodegradable plastic bags.

4. Using paper sacks generates almost five times more solid waste than using plastic bags.

5. After four or more uses, reusable plastic bags are superior to all types of disposable bags -- paper, polyethylene and compostable plastic -- across all significant environmental indicators.

 

The ULS report concludes as follows

Legislation designed to reduce environmental impacts and litter by outlawing grocery bags based on the material from which they are produced will not deliver the intended results. While some litter reduction might take place, it would be outweighed by the disadvantages that would subsequently occur (increased solid waste and greenhouse gas emissions). Ironically, reducing the use of traditional plastic bags would not even reduce the reliance on fossil fuels, as paper and biodegradable plastic bags consume at least as much non-renewable energy during their full lifecycle.

Actually not an inconvenient truth at all, it all depends how you calculate things.

But you are totally missing the point if you have some cloth bags that you use or even a paper bag and you use it say 5 times you have already won, you are just assuming single use. The whole point is that people will take reusable bags with them so bags are used more then once thus helping.

Are you seriously telling me you think people will re-use paper bags FIVE times?? cheesy.gif

You need to take a large reality pill or even several pills.

And who is selling you the reusable bags?, let me guess Tesco is, so not only are they

saving money on throw away recyclable plastic bags but they are boosting their obscene profits by

making us buy their reusable bag. Tesco could not give a monkeys about the environment

they only care about profit and if you think otherwise you are imho a fool!!!!

Five times cheesy.gifcheesy.gifcheesy.gif

I am seriously telling you that in shops where there are no bags for sale and re usable bags (cloth not necessarily paper) people will bring their own bags. Have you ever been to a Makro ? People bring their own bags, i know I do. Most people are smart enough to figure out its better to use good multi-use bags even if made of a plastic compound.

Then sure sometimes people need to buy bags if they are caught out without but most people who shop do seem to plan that. I understand that planning and logic might be hard for some people.. you are probably one of that group.

Where I come from the Netherlands we are paying for plastic bags and most people who go shopping bring their own bags and they are used many more times as 5. Your points are totally moot and unrelevant. People adapt when they either cant get bags or have to pay for bags. Just ask just about anyone besides you in this topic. I wonder what that says about you.

My wife has a laundry Shop and we use Makro all the time, and in the many years we have been shopping there

I can honestly say I have not seen much more than 2 or 3 expats, in total, using their own bags and if you were at

all observant you would see all the Thais picking up plastic bags in the veg section to fill up with their smaller articles

at the check out. So not exactly no bags at Makro really. coffee1.gif

So you have now changed your tune from paper to cloth, which is fine if you don't care about the possible health risk

to your family. w00t.gif

Incidently this is not the Netherlands or Usa or France, it is Thailand and you will never repeat never get Thais to pay

for bags, and as it happen by pure chance whether the greens like it or not, the huge weight of evidence suggests

that banning plastic bags is far more detrimental to the environment than not banning them. thumbsup.gifwai.gif

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Actually not an inconvenient truth at all, it all depends how you calculate things.

But you are totally missing the point if you have some cloth bags that you use or even a paper bag and you use it say 5 times you have already won, you are just assuming single use. The whole point is that people will take reusable bags with them so bags are used more then once thus helping.

Are you seriously telling me you think people will re-use paper bags FIVE times?? cheesy.gif

You need to take a large reality pill or even several pills.

And who is selling you the reusable bags?, let me guess Tesco is, so not only are they

saving money on throw away recyclable plastic bags but they are boosting their obscene profits by

making us buy their reusable bag. Tesco could not give a monkeys about the environment

they only care about profit and if you think otherwise you are imho a fool!!!!

Five times cheesy.gifcheesy.gifcheesy.gif

I am seriously telling you that in shops where there are no bags for sale and re usable bags (cloth not necessarily paper) people will bring their own bags. Have you ever been to a Makro ? People bring their own bags, i know I do. Most people are smart enough to figure out its better to use good multi-use bags even if made of a plastic compound.

Then sure sometimes people need to buy bags if they are caught out without but most people who shop do seem to plan that. I understand that planning and logic might be hard for some people.. you are probably one of that group.

Where I come from the Netherlands we are paying for plastic bags and most people who go shopping bring their own bags and they are used many more times as 5. Your points are totally moot and unrelevant. People adapt when they either cant get bags or have to pay for bags. Just ask just about anyone besides you in this topic. I wonder what that says about you.

My wife has a laundry Shop and we use Makro all the time, and in the many years we have been shopping there

I can honestly say I have not seen much more than 2 or 3 expats, in total, using their own bags and if you were at

all observant you would see all the Thais picking up plastic bags in the veg section to fill up with their smaller articles

at the check out. So not exactly no bags at Makro really. coffee1.gif

So you have now changed your tune from paper to cloth, which is fine if you don't care about the possible health risk

to your family. w00t.gif

Incidently this is not the Netherlands or Usa or France, it is Thailand and you will never repeat never get Thais to pay

for bags, and as it happen by pure chance whether the greens like it or not, the huge weight of evidence suggests

that banning plastic bags is far more detrimental to the environment than not banning them. thumbsup.gifwai.gif

You really seem to have a problem understanding things its ok ill spell it out for you.. banning plastic bags does not mean you need to use paper bags you can use big plastic bags, you can use cloth bags or paper bags. Up to you, it just means that less plastic bags are used. Not a hard concept (for intelligent people) You figures show that you are wrong as they compare 1 time use. About cloth bags.. hint hint.. you can wash them.

As for plastic bags for vegetables.. (big face palm) sir did you really have any further education as pre school. Almost nowhere are these banned as it is just not practical. We are not talking about those at all. I haven't seen a store in the Netherlands that does not have them for vegetables.

Now Sir about about Thailand never going to accept paying for plastic bags.. i wish i had a crystal ball like yours as mine does not seem to look in the future. I would not bet my life on it that it wont happen in say 10 years.

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Well that's one shop I won't be bothering.

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The Thais when shopping in Makro go to the veg section and collect bags there to use at the check out for there smaller purchases

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Not only Thais whistling.gif

I wonder if the "new" Tesco has free plastic bags at the veg counter too. smile.png

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