US Embassy Bangkok dismisses anti-govt leaders blacklist reports

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US Embassy dismisses blacklist reports
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- The US Embassy in Bangkok on Monday dismissed the reports that it is compiling a blacklist of antigovernment leaders including Suthep Thaugsuban.

Spokesman Walter Braunohler said, "Rumours regarding blacklist or travel restriction on current Thai political leaders or activists are completely false."

There were widespread of rumours on the social networks including Facebook and Twitter that the embassy wished to put the 14 leaders of the rally on a blacklist for entering the US.

The rumours said it was because the rally leaders involved in the protests in front of the embassy a few days ago.


-- The Nation 2013-12-23

[moonao]

US has nothing to worry about, Suthep and these anti-goverment leaders are more politically alligned and would probably rather visit countries like Zimbabwe, North Korea or Burma.

[ggold]

US has nothing to worry about, Suthep and these anti-goverment leaders are more politically alligned and would probably rather visit countries like Zimbabwe, North Korea or Burma.

Yet that is what you will get with Thaksins PTP after February 2nd.

[bigbamboo]

US has nothing to worry about, Suthep and these anti-goverment leaders are more politically alligned and would probably rather visit countries like Zimbabwe, North Korea or Burma.

Hmmn...... I don't remember the Democrats' leader or his colleagues having business dealings with the Burmese junta or being banned from the US for dealing with Mugabe? They don't even appoint family successors like they do in North Korea.

Edited December 23, 2013 by bigbamboo

[wonder6281]

Which side is more friendly towards the US? They will come out on top!

[Nibbles48]

First off... I doubt Suthep or any of the other leaders would lose too much sleep over being banned from visiting the USA. It is a worthy sacrifice for their cause.

Second... Even if they did get banned. As soon as these protests are over and the balance of power has swung to the other side, the US will be the first with their tongues out to lick ass.

Lastly. If the US ever did that and the power shift completed, I would think they can expect to be ordered off Thai soil as well as all US citizens.

These sort of things have consequences, and as usual many people can end up suffering because of the twisted thing we call US foreign policy.

So it won't ever happen.

[Nibbles48]

Which side is more friendly towards the US? They will come out on top!

So you are saying that the US have all the say in this country then?

Complete and utter <deleted>.

[moonao]

The US and many other established democtratic countries have made statements supporting Yinglucks direction.

Yellows have a hissy fit and protest in front of the US embassy.

Then they start some rumours about how the US punished the leaders with a blacklist.

Suthep and his people need to grow up and act like adults, they are looking like childish cry babies domestically and internationally.

[soi41]

"We did it, we are up there with the big boys now!!"

And our very own!!

Edited December 23, 2013 by soi41

[Nibbles48]

US has nothing to worry about, Suthep and these anti-goverment leaders are more politically alligned and would probably rather visit countries like Zimbabwe, North Korea or Burma.

Hmmn...... I don't remember the Democrats' leader or his colleagues having business dealings with the Burmese junta or being banned from the US for dealing with Mugabe? They don't even appoint family successors like they do in North Korea.

No but I do remember the massive business dealings that Jimmy Carter had with Mugabe and all the money he made from mineral rights at the cost of the destruction of the country.

[Credo]

The ability to get a visa to the US will not affected by the demonstrations. Having criminal charges and being found guilty would have a greater impact on a visa, but even that would not disqualify them. It didn't disqualify Thaksin.

Perhaps they are trying to play the nationalistic card?

[Basil B]

Black list? more probably a phone list, for tapping...

Edited December 23, 2013 by Basil B

[animatic]

Just more rumors and they need not be started by leadership,

just passed on as fact by the blindly credulous.

[Scott]

Off-topic posts and replies have been deleted.

[alaina]

What about Nitithorn Lamlua, the one that told protesters while he was on stage to storm the US Embassy?

[trainman34014]

The US and many other established democtratic countries have made statements supporting Yinglucks direction.

Yellows have a hissy fit and protest in front of the US embassy.

Then they start some rumours about how the US punished the leaders with a blacklist.

Suthep and his people need to grow up and act like adults, they are looking like childish cry babies domestically and internationally.

So basically then; they are the same as the majority of the rest of the population of Thailand ?

[FangFerang]

What a dead-end, empty news bit. These clowns don't even want to go to the US. Even better, it presupposes that Suthep and company have an 'inside ear' to US policy developments and have infiltrated the US State Department. Better, it presupposes that anyone cares what the US thinks about Thailand. Thais don't, ask them.

Resume rants.

[ArtHayward]

No Thai government, regardless of what Colour shirts its supporters may wear would be foolish enough to " order the Americans off Thai soil". It is Thailand's relationship with the US that secures it transfers of surplus American equipment at bargain basement prices and allows Thailand to have a much more powerful military than it might otherwise have, consider the possible ramifications for any political group silly enough to ruin this.

[CPT]

If the US blacklisted every Thai who attempted to overthrow the Thai government there would be very few who qualified for visas.

[Maha Sarakham Marty]

So which dumbo red shirt/PTP sleaze put out these lies about the blacklisting?

[Greer]

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"We did it, we are up there with the big boys now!!"Hakimullah-Mehsud.jpgnorth_korean_leader_kim_jong_un_salutes_during_a_m_4f8b1fe718.jpgOsamsBinLaden2Lrg.jpg

And our very own!!Suthep_Thaugsuban.jpg

Sorry - comparing the murdering scum terrorists in the top images with a political protest leader is ludicrous.

[Suradit69]

First off... I doubt Suthep or any of the other leaders would lose too much sleep over being banned from visiting the USA. It is a worthy sacrifice for their cause.

Second... Even if they did get banned. As soon as these protests are over and the balance of power has swung to the other side, the US will be the first with their tongues out to lick ass.

Lastly. If the US ever did that and the power shift completed, I would think they can expect to be ordered off Thai soil as well as all US citizens.

These sort of things have consequences, and as usual many people can end up suffering because of the twisted thing we call US foreign policy.

So it won't ever happen.

"Lastly. If the US ever did that and the power shift completed, I would think they can expect to be ordered off Thai soil as well as all US citizens."

Right. Whatever you're smoking may have passed its sell-by date.

[theslime]

kong.gif

"We did it, we are up there with the big boys now!!"Hakimullah-Mehsud.jpgnorth_korean_leader_kim_jong_un_salutes_during_a_m_4f8b1fe718.jpgOsamsBinLaden2Lrg.jpg

And our very own!!Suthep_Thaugsuban.jpg

Sorry - comparing the murdering scum terrorists in the top images with a political protest leader is ludicrous.

yeah should have used G W Bush, Reagan, Thaksin, Blair

[tilac2]

US has nothing to worry about, Suthep and these anti-goverment leaders are more politically alligned and would probably rather visit countries like Zimbabwe, North Korea or Burma.

Hmmn...... I don't remember the Democrats' leader or his colleagues having business dealings with the Burmese junta or being banned from the US for dealing with Mugabe? They don't even appoint family successors like they do in North Korea.

No but I do remember the massive business dealings that Jimmy Carter had with Mugabe and all the money he made from mineral rights at the cost of the destruction of the country.

I'd be interested to know what documentation you have for: Jimmy Carter's business dealings with Mugabe, the money he made from mineral rights, and how this led to the (acknowledged) destruction of the country.

[Soi Sauce]

US has nothing to worry about, Suthep and these anti-goverment leaders are more politically alligned and would probably rather visit countries like Zimbabwe, North Korea or Burma.

100% wrong. The pariah states you mentioned have always been Thaksin's role models.

"Democracy is not my goal." Remember?

And instability in SE Asia suits the yanks down to the ground. Combine that with their Arab mates, who Thaksin was offering the Thai rice fields to, remember, and you have a counter to China taking over Africa.

Easy to work out.

Learn to read and think.

[noitom]

The US position on Thailand is unclear. They are wavering to see who materializes as the leadership. They have no regard for the human rights and democracy for the poor in Thailand. The US stands by silent while many protesters are stating the "lack of understanding" of democracy the vast majority of poor Thais in the north and south. In other words, a euphemism for they're too stupid to vote. The US should be evangelizing the rights of all Thais to vote and participate in the democratic process and promise.

[Maha Sarakham Marty]

kong.gif

"We did it, we are up there with the big boys now!!"Hakimullah-Mehsud.jpgnorth_korean_leader_kim_jong_un_salutes_during_a_m_4f8b1fe718.jpgOsamsBinLaden2Lrg.jpg

And our very own!!Suthep_Thaugsuban.jpg

Sorry - comparing the murdering scum terrorists in the top images with a political protest leader is ludicrous.

It's the sort of hyperbolic garbage that the Thaksin apologists are reduced to resorting to.

[Publicus]

The US position on Thailand is unclear. They are wavering to see who materializes as the leadership. They have no regard for the human rights and democracy for the poor in Thailand. The US stands by silent while many protesters are stating the "lack of understanding" of democracy the vast majority of poor Thais in the north and south. In other words, a euphemism for they're too stupid to vote. The US should be evangelizing the rights of all Thais to vote and participate in the democratic process and promise.

The United States has made clear it supports whichever party or coalition of political parties are the democratically elected government of Thailand.

An appointed governing council absolutely does not cut it - it sounds too much like Mussolini's Italy.

People can talk all they want about vote buying as this is Thailand, a developing economy and an evolving democracy that is under threat from socio-political reactionaries.

Those who maliciously accuse the US Embassy of compiling a blacklist need to reveal the source of this willful disinformation to prove it is indeed accurate information, which they cannot do.

If there's a "blacklist," then produce it - now, forthwith.

I'd bet the ranch the US Embassy in any country gets a roster from the major political parties of who are the leaders of each party. Could something as simple and routine as acquiring the roster of the leaders of the Democrat party or a "scorecard" of its affiliated mass popular movements be this concocted evil and sinister blacklist?

Enquiring minds want to know who the "dark forces" are in Thai society.

Actually he 'dark forces' of Thai society that oppose elections have recently come quite into the light.

Shamelessly and desperately so.

[Publicus]

Which side is more friendly towards the US? They will come out on top!

So you are saying that the US have all the say in this country then?

Complete and utter <deleted>.

Not saying that at all and <deleted> to you! History demonstrates that the US will always support a Government who will bend over for US Foreign and National interests.

Get out of your cocoon!

The United States has made clear it supports the democratically elected government of Thailand.

No matter how you spice, slice or dice your baloney it's still baloney.

[Ricardo]

US has nothing to worry about, Suthep and these anti-goverment leaders are more politically alligned and would probably rather visit countries like Zimbabwe, North Korea or Burma.

Interestingly it's the self-exiled former-PM Thaksin, who is reported to have had business-interests & dealings, in two out of those three countries !

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/spiegel-interview-with-thaksin-shinawatra-thailand-must-be-united-again-a-768492.html

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2010/02/26/thailand-politics-thaksin-myanmar-idUSBAK00301120100226