By Jupiter!

[FracturedRabbit]

Jupiter 11 arrived today; in reasonable condition given it cost me $60 and is 53 years old:

P1000310 by pattayadays.com, on Flickr

Took a couple of shots this afternoon to prove that it works:

S1082141 by pattayadays.com, on Flickr

S1082183 by pattayadays.com, on Flickr

Next need to check out how bokehlicious it will be with suitable backgrounds.

[MJP]

You can understand the LBA with Commie glass. I think at the present price point it's worth collecting.

Sadly I didn't have the luggage capacity to bring mine with me this time. I have the Jupiter 11A, Carl Zeiss Jena DDR MC 50mm f/1.8 Electric and CZJ DDR 135/3.5, a Helios 44M-4 and a Petri and a few others. M42 mount. Decided on a autofocus K-mount shooting year.

Another lens really worth a look is the Tair 11A. 135/2.8. Twenty blades (I think one version had 22 at some point). Bokeh beast . . .

Others to short list:

Jupiter 9 85/2

Helios 40-2 85/1.5

Mir-1 (not 1B) Brussels Grand Prix 1958

Helios 44M-7 MC 58/2

Quick edit: And don't forget the M42 mount Super Takumars. Although radioactive they are pretty great. A lot of new lenses can't compete because the toxicity of the old glass, leaded glass, radioactive thorium glass and wotnot can no longer be used in the manufacturing process. Lenses were also not made by accountants way back when.

Edited January 8, 2014 by MJP

[FracturedRabbit]

The Tair seems to be fetching a minimum of 6,000 baht.

[MJP]

The Tair seems to be fetching a minimum of 6,000 baht.

It has gone up a lot in the past two years and is not as available as it once was. Still worth it. Will retain or increase in monetary value over time.

Some Russian firm is remaking the Helios 40-2, but it's not as good as the old one. This lens too has rocketed in price, but you may be lucky.

[tw25rw]

I tried to buy a Jupiter 135mm on Ebay a few weeks ago, but someone pipped me to it.. Looked a lot like the top pic.. Was for an RF though..

[FracturedRabbit]

Mine is Kiev/Pentax rangefinder mount (will fit on my 1950 Kiev 2 rangefinder).

[MJP]

One of the reasons Pentax is handy is the registry distance for M42 adapted lenses is correct for infinity focus.

They work well on the modern K-series digitals, although trying to get the adapter off can be a real nightmare. There's a locking spring involved and the removal tool is not particularly effective.

[tw25rw]

Mine is Kiev/Pentax rangefinder mount (will fit on my 1950 Kiev 2 rangefinder).

Pentax rangefinder?

Are you mixing RF and SLR screw mount lenses?

I mean putting an RF lens on a mount for an SLR lens?

Edited January 8, 2014 by tw25rw

[FracturedRabbit]

Mine is Kiev/Pentax rangefinder mount (will fit on my 1950 Kiev 2 rangefinder).

Pentax rangefinder?

Are you mixing RF and SLR screw mount lenses?

I mean putting an RF lens on a mount for an SLR lens?

Not sure what you mean, but my default answer is "no".

I have a Kiev rangefinder which has a Kiev/Pentax rangefinder mount. I have an assortment of lenses for the Kiev (including now the Jupiter 11) and wanted to use those lenses on my M43 cameras. So I bought a Kiev/M43 adapter which is actually the front off an old Kiev mated to an M43 mount. I also have lenses in other threads so I also have and M42/M43 adapter, an M39/M43 adapter, and I used to have a very complex Contax G/M43 adapter before I sold it along with some Contax G lenses.

[FracturedRabbit]

Feeling at home on the Kiev.

S1092190 by pattayadays.com, on Flickr

[Familyonthemove]

Nice tight DOF and bokeh ...... but it's not exactly compact!

Think I'll stick with my Mzuiko 45mm ..... too lazy to lose auto focus.

[MJP]

Nice tight DOF and bokeh ...... but it's not exactly compact!

Think I'll stick with my Mzuiko 45mm ..... too lazy to lose auto focus.

Yes, I like AF too and I'm not keen on the M42 to K-mount screw adapter. On the next upgrade I'll likely keep one camera as a permanent M42 adapted body. That's how much I hate trying to remove the adapter!!!

[tw25rw]

Mine is Kiev/Pentax rangefinder mount (will fit on my 1950 Kiev 2 rangefinder).

Pentax rangefinder?

Are you mixing RF and SLR screw mount lenses?

I mean putting an RF lens on a mount for an SLR lens?

Not sure what you mean, but my default answer is "no".

I have a Kiev rangefinder which has a Kiev/Pentax rangefinder mount. I have an assortment of lenses for the Kiev (including now the Jupiter 11) and wanted to use those lenses on my M43 cameras. So I bought a Kiev/M43 adapter which is actually the front off an old Kiev mated to an M43 mount. I also have lenses in other threads so I also have and M42/M43 adapter, an M39/M43 adapter, and I used to have a very complex Contax G/M43 adapter before I sold it along with some Contax G lenses.

Pentax never made a rangefinder that I'm aware of..

I thought you were using screw mount rf lenses on a mount designed for screw mount SLR lenses.. Which won't work..

[tw25rw]

I want one of those Kiev rangefinders..I have a Fed and a Zorki, but the Kievs are more expensive.

Shame they don't do a copy of a more modern Leica!

[FracturedRabbit]

I can't quite recall how, but I have three of them. My oldest, and best, is probably mainly made from Contax parts. The gestation of the Kiev is an interesting little story, at least I thought so; recounted here: http://www.pattayadays.com/2012/06/1950-kiev-ii/

[Familyonthemove]

Somebody should make a "full frame" digital camera sensor that can be slipped into these wonderful classic 35mm cameras to turn them into digital cameras. Battery and electronics could go where the film spool goes and thin sensor where the film tracks behind the lens.

Heresy maybe - but I'd buy one and convert a classic Leica.

[FracturedRabbit]

A shot with the Jupiter 11, taken this morning. Love to the soft, paint-like bokeh:

S1102196 by pattayadays.com, on Flickr

[tw25rw]

That photo is amazing!

[tw25rw]

Somebody should make a "full frame" digital camera sensor that can be slipped into these wonderful classic 35mm cameras to turn them into digital cameras. Battery and electronics could go where the film spool goes and thin sensor where the film tracks behind the lens.

Heresy maybe - but I'd buy one and convert a classic Leica.

Someone was doing that before, but in the 2001 financial slump, they lost funding..

Silicon Film

Someone is currently trying to raise money through crowd sourcing to develop another:

Edit: it looks like that effort failed to raise the money. I hope he, or someone else, keeps trying.

Edited January 10, 2014 by tw25rw

[MJP]

Helios 44M-7 wide open at f/2 on K-3, ISO 640, handheld

Edited March 1, 2014 by MJP

[sunshine51]

Somebody should make a "full frame" digital camera sensor that can be slipped into these wonderful classic 35mm cameras to turn them into digital cameras. Battery and electronics could go where the film spool goes and thin sensor where the film tracks behind the lens.

Heresy maybe - but I'd buy one and convert a classic Leica.

Just buy an M9 or the new M240! Style hasn't changed much and to try and convert say an

M3 would cost you more than buying a new digital Leica. Or....just shoot film & buy a damn

good scanner.

Edited March 2, 2014 by sunshine51

[FracturedRabbit]

Helios 44M-7 wide open at f/2 on K-3, ISO 640, handheld

Nice rigging sir!

Will have to strap on my Helios and see what it can do.

[MJP]

I thought it was just a sore throat and a headache but my LBA has returned.

Latest Communist acquisitions:

Tair-11A 135/2.8 (mint, £150 and possibly now my sharpest and at the same time finest bokeh lens, worth the money)
Helios 44M-7 58/2 (mint, £65)
Jupiter 11A 135/4 (mint, £35, to replace my present copy, the rear element is awful)
Jupiter 21M 200/4 (exc, £65)
Meyer Optik Orestor 135/2.8 (dunno, described as exc but we'll see, will get cleaned up if needs be because fairly rare now, £99)


Five legendary lenses which are tack sharp with great bokeh for less than some dull old plasticky modern AF lens.

With the big steady tripod set up, flucard and focus peaking, these old M42 primes are a joy to use now.

Tair-11A

Edited March 2, 2014 by MJP

[MJP]

Helios bokeh!!! Swirly. Swirly. Swirly bokeh.

[MJP]

Jupiter 11A 135/4 . . . bokeh!

Ban this sick bokeh filth. Ban it!

[MJP]

Jupiter 11A 135/4

Spring has finally arrived in the UK.