lostmebike Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 What is happening in this country ?? Read the Detroit paper lately? No, why would we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDrinker Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) "Executed"??? Call it "murder" <deleted>.... Who writes this drivel? May she rest in peace... Well, considering this is Thailand, and those words are in fact interchangeable in this context, even to a native speaker; perhaps you could also regale us with your vocabulary critique of the Thai language version of this story. Please elaborate. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about and zero knowledge of the Thai words which could be used in this context. Edited January 14, 2014 by HeavyDrinker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skorchio Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 It just goes to demonstrate that in a country where confidence in the law is so low, then confidence to commit such crimes in such a manner and in such a public way is going to prevail. This is evident all over Thailand. I agree with what you say about confidence in the Law, but there is also the retarded notion in seemingly most Thai male's heads that you must avenge any loss of face. And possibly in this instance by shooting his GF in the head 3 times because she was flirting around ....... if he is caught and he has no money, he will likely die in jail. They throw away the key for those without any wonga .... particularly if her family have a higher 'standing' than his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spermwhale Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 "Executed"??? Call it "murder" <deleted>.... Who writes this drivel? May she rest in peace... Well, considering this is Thailand, and those words are in fact interchangeable in this context, even to a native speaker; perhaps you could also regale us with your vocabulary critique of the Thai language version of this story. As such an erudite exemplification of your native language perhaps you should really know that the words, even here, are not interchangeable, even in this context, and yet you seek to educate others. Could you explain the mystifying phrase 'vocabulary critique'? Are you really sure the word 'regale' is correct in this context? O, to be such a self-assured person as yourself. We honour you for your self-worth. good. I was hoping you wouldn't let him get away with that post. There's a big difference between execution and murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skorchio Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Can the so-called journalists at Pattaya 1 think before they write. Using the word "executed" is totally out of order. Seeing headlines like that, any would-be tourists will be running for the next plane to anywhere but Thailand. It is a tragedy that she was killed, but please report it as "killed" or "shot". Any killing is unaccpetable but it needs to kept in context. My condolences to her family, let's hope Pattaya's finest find the culprit and justice is done. I am really at odds as to why you feel the word 'executed' is out of order? 3 bullets to the head from close range, by a male wearing a full face helmet. Which part of this event does not fit with your definition of the term 'executed'? In my opinion, the tragic lady (and may she rest in peace) was quite definitely exectued. Or are you worried about tourist numbers only? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little mary sunshine Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 "Liked to piss off her boyfriend".....For the last time !!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntg187 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 "Executed"??? Call it "murder" <deleted>.... Who writes this drivel? May she rest in peace... Well, considering this is Thailand, and those words are in fact interchangeable in this context, even to a native speaker; perhaps you could also regale us with your vocabulary critique of the Thai language version of this story. As such an erudite exemplification of your native language perhaps you should really know that the words, even here, are not interchangeable, even in this context, and yet you seek to educate others. Could you explain the mystifying phrase 'vocabulary critique'? Are you really sure the word 'regale' is correct in this context? O, to be such a self-assured person as yourself. We honour you for your self-worth. While an execution is defined as a carrying out of a sentence of death, an execution-style murder is defined as the act of criminal murder at close range where the victim is under control of the assailant with no chance of escape or resistance. These are defined by the law in the US for criminals and police. In a warzone however, the double-tapping of a downed target is also considered an execution as defined by the US rules of war under the Uniformed Code of Military Justice. So in this case, depending on someone's background the words murder and execution would be interchangeable however more appropriately described as an execution-style murder. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGIE Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 When a Thai boyfriend got jealous, he doesn't mind the consequence of his rage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjaidee Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 "Executed"??? Call it "murder" <deleted>.... Who writes this drivel? May she rest in peace... Well, considering this is Thailand, and those words are in fact interchangeable in this context, even to a native speaker; perhaps you could also regale us with your vocabulary critique of the Thai language version of this story. Unless we know the context of the murder then the word executed may or may not be an appropriate word. To write executed without full knowledge of the facts is wrong. Granted, three head shots looks like an execution but to use the word executed in the headline is nothing more than sensationalization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 whats surprise me in this country, its the thai population that didnt come to extinction yet! You would have expected in this insane country, there is no more male left! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stephenterry Posted January 14, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2014 A gun was used to 'kill' the woman by (presumably) her jealous boyfriend. Whether the manner of the murder was premeditated (three shots to the head at close range), then it could be as correct (aka a sensationalist media report) to use the term 'execution' in this situation - although my common-sense tells me that 'murder' is more appropriate. Bottom line: flirtatious girl was killed by jealous boyfriend - two persons whose lives have been ruined, let alone their families. Unfortunately Thai society is so embedded with the concept of 'losing face' and pandering to immature males throughout their lives that it would take 'centuries' of education to change such behaviour. IMO, even in the event of stricter law enforcement and punishment, these crimes will continue during our lifetime, because it is an accepted way of life. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amse Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 So the name of the well-known hotel is not forth coming, in order to keep the hotel clientel coming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrens54 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Maybe Pattaya will implode before the Rest of the country.completely lawless.Then again it has always been so Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Perhaps.... PATTAYA, the Murder Hub of Thailand!!!! Still say that if God gives The World an Enema, He/She will stick the tube into Pattaya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I do wonder about the average Thai male's sanity. My wife's [Thai] nephew, a teacher, was found with a gun in his bag at a school check. When questioned by the family, he said that it was to protect himself from his violent students. I said to him 'what were you going to do with it, shoot them?' he didn't reply. I was then asked by his Mother and Father to bail him out and pay off the court. I refused, he went to jail for 12 months and they don't talk to me anymore, Big deal! My wife and her Mother agreed with me that it was on his own head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 "Bottom line: flirtatious girl was killed by jealous boyfriend - two persons whose lives have been ruined, let alone their families. Unfortunately Thai society is so embedded with the concept of 'losing face' and pandering to immature males throughout their lives that it would take 'centuries' of education to change such behaviour." Second bottom line to that. We do not know if she were a "flirtatious girl", do we? Seems equally possible that perhaps if it were a boyfriend he could have been dumped by her, maybe for his chasing of other girls, or drinking/gambling, or even she got tired of his anger issues. But probably has to do with "face" plus the lack of ability to move on, compromise, see others point of view, etc in this culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Maybe Pattaya will implode before the Rest of the country.completely lawless.Then again it has always been so Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Perhaps.... PATTAYA, the Murder Hub of Thailand!!!! Still say that if God gives The World an Enema, He/She will stick the tube into Pattaya. you might be right. i assume GOD knows what important function an àrsehole performs. HE wouldn't waste an enema on that godforsaken place in the sticks were you dwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbalEd Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Why "executed" vs. murdered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 What is happening in this country ?? Read the Detroit paper lately? The murder took place Pattaya. Detroit has no bearing in this senseless murder and an overseas comparison is moot. RIP Dear Lady. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Why "executed" vs. murdered? Local nuance perhaps. Murder, execution, slaughter..it really doesn't matter. The end result is another senseless dead. Rest In Peace Dear Lady. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenterry Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 "Bottom line: flirtatious girl was killed by jealous boyfriend - two persons whose lives have been ruined, let alone their families. Unfortunately Thai society is so embedded with the concept of 'losing face' and pandering to immature males throughout their lives that it would take 'centuries' of education to change such behaviour." Second bottom line to that. We do not know if she were a "flirtatious girl", do we? Seems equally possible that perhaps if it were a boyfriend he could have been dumped by her, maybe for his chasing of other girls, or drinking/gambling, or even she got tired of his anger issues. But probably has to do with "face" plus the lack of ability to move on, compromise, see others point of view, etc in this culture. the full report (from a witness) indicates that she was a pretty girl who attracted the attentions of men and that she was very active on Facebook, and the B/f was extremely jealous as he posted a picture of him holding a knife to her throat - so while there could be another reason for her behaviour, the jealous b/f was factual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I do wonder about the average Thai male's sanity. My wife's [Thai] nephew, a teacher, was found with a gun in his bag at a school check. When questioned by the family, he said that it was to protect himself from his violent students. I said to him 'what were you going to do with it, shoot them?' he didn't reply. I was then asked by his Mother and Father to bail him out and pay off the court. I refused, he went to jail for 12 months and they don't talk to me anymore, Big deal! My wife and her Mother agreed with me that it was on his own head. Well done. People who act outside of the law must be held accountable for their behaviors, regards of national orgin, position, etc. The old saying, "Commit the crime, do the time" is most appropriate IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techboy Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 It just goes to demonstrate that in a country where confidence in the law is so low, then confidence to commit such crimes in such a manner and in such a public way is going to prevail. This is evident all over Thailand. You obviously have not lived in many places- Good guess is that you had a few good holidays in Thailand, liked the strength of your currency and eventually relocated to this country the bubble of ignorance and naivety in which you live. If Thailand were so lacking in law you could not speak as you do so impudently because you would be taken to task for it. People like you come here not the least reason being that in spite of corruption in the legal system you feel secure. I believe that you are exuberant in making your post- You could not care less about the girl. More likely you actually welcome an opportunity to make a defaming statement. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbswales Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 "execution" implies taking of life after a legal process - this is murder plain and simple RIP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Flame removed: In using Thai Visa I agree:1) To respect fellow members. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMarlow Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 "Executed"??? Call it "murder" <deleted>.... Who writes this drivel? May she rest in peace... Here's someone that writes "<deleted>" in a post and then goes on to criticise another person's English. Amazing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Horrible story. RIP to the victim and condolences to the family and friends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1Str8 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Makes me sad. Another young woman, and I bet she was killed over some trivial sh_t by some b_tch who is a big boy in his lunch time. Sent from my GT-I9500 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMarlow Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 As such an erudite exemplification of your native language perhaps you should really know that the words, even here, are not interchangeable, even in this context, and yet you seek to educate others. Could you explain the mystifying phrase 'vocabulary critique'? Are you really sure the word 'regale' is correct in this context? O, to be such a self-assured person as yourself. We honour you for your self-worth. As such an erudite exemplification of your native language perhaps you should know that you spelt "oh" in your last sentence incorrectly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenterry Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 "execution" implies taking of life after a legal process - this is murder plain and simple RIP I would suggest the Taliban are not on the same page as you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munger Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 What is happening in this country ?? Read the Detroit paper lately? The murder took place Pattaya. Detroit has no bearing in this senseless murder and an overseas comparison is moot. RIP Dear Lady. WRONG, Detroit has a bearing if you are a thai apologist trying to justify murder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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