Somsrisonphimai Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 TV has members from all walk of life who either love, hate, and something in between Thailand. Thai people want to know how would Thailand be any different than your home country? How would you compare your society and culture to their culture? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benalibina Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Which thai people you refer 2 ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CryWolf Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Which thai people you refer 2 ? Perhaps some of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rajab Al Zarahni Posted January 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2014 (edited) I would say its just like elsewhere. People like it or hate it and some are in between. I don't think Thai people give a hoot about what we think Edited January 19, 2014 by Rajab Al Zarahni 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad mary Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I would say its just like elsewhere. People like it or hate it and some are in between. I don't think Thai people give a hoot about what we think That might be a really good answer to some other question. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benalibina Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I would say its just like elsewhere. People like it or hate it and some are in between. I don't think Thai people give a hoot about what we think That might be a really good answer to some other question. Which 1....and why ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somsrisonphimai Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 Which thai people you refer 2 ? Many people, but no one forced you to response, so... I guess it is ok for people to ask about Thailand, but it is not ok for Thai people to ask about other country. But, then they like to say Thai people are uneducated and uninformed about things. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post manarak Posted January 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2014 Which thai people you refer 2 ?Many people, but no one forced you to response, so... I guess it is ok for people to ask about Thailand, but it is not ok for Thai people to ask about other country. But, then they like to say Thai people are uneducated and uninformed about things. Very sorry for the unhelpful posts. So your question is about what is different in other countries? The question is so overwhelming, I don't know where to begin. There are many differences: mentality, social structures, beliefs, organisation. I am from Europe, and I feel the most important differences with Thailand are the high cost of labor / high living costs in Europe (both are related), the high tax and social burdens in Europe and consumerism. In Europe we also have a lot of welfare, the people benefiting from it have mostly to thank Europe's colonial history for it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wym Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 The quality of answers is very dependent on the quality of the question. Maybe if you focused on one particular topic area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roamer Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Thailand is certainly different. The only nation I know with masses of people campaigning for less democracy and wanting the country to be run by a non elected body. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benalibina Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Which thai people you refer 2 ?Many people, but no one forced you to response, so...I guess it is ok for people to ask about Thailand, but it is not ok for Thai people to ask about other country. But, then they like to say Thai people are uneducated and uninformed about things. Very sorry for the unhelpful posts.So your question is about what is different in other countries? The question is so overwhelming, I don't know where to begin. There are many differences: mentality, social structures, beliefs, organisation. I am from Europe, and I feel the most important differences with Thailand are the high cost of labor / high living costs in Europe (both are related), the high tax and social burdens in Europe and consumerism. In Europe we also have a lot of welfare, the people benefiting from it have mostly to thank Europe's colonial history for it. Interested to read an explanation of your last sentence....very interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somsrisonphimai Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 (edited) Which thai people you refer 2 ?Many people, but no one forced you to response, so...I guess it is ok for people to ask about Thailand, but it is not ok for Thai people to ask about other country. But, then they like to say Thai people are uneducated and uninformed about things. Very sorry for the unhelpful posts. So your question is about what is different in other countries? The question is so overwhelming, I don't know where to begin. There are many differences: mentality, social structures, beliefs, organisation. I am from Europe, and I feel the most important differences with Thailand are the high cost of labor / high living costs in Europe (both are related), the high tax and social burdens in Europe and consumerism. In Europe we also have a lot of welfare, the people benefiting from it have mostly to thank Europe's colonial history for it. It seemed people go all the trouble to be in Thailand, leaving their friend, family, and ways of life. Just about everyday I see question about visa extension, they have to leaveThailand get their visa stamp of some sort to stay in Thailand. Actually, I am flattered that people like to come to Thailand and stay in Thailand. I think a lot of Thai people don't get why farangs ( I try not use the word farang but it seemed fit better in a sentence) would want to be in Thailand than their country. In Thais mind, western countries have more to offer than Thai country. Edited January 19, 2014 by Somsrisonphimai 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Loptr Posted January 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2014 I believe that Somsrionphimai has just had an abject lesson in western culture. 15 replies and not a serious answer. Ok, I'll provide a serious answer from my perspective. 1. It's warmer than my home country, no snow 2. It's cheaper overall than my home country 3. The people are friendlier than in my home country 4. I feel more "free" in Thailand than I do in my home country As far as differences in culture and society, most people are up tight in my country. You cannot smile and look a stranger in the eye without them freaking out, fearing some ulterior motive. Unemployment and poverty are climbing in my country, unlike Thailand whose economy is producing more jobs than there are people willing to fill them. In my country, people think too much most of the time. In Thailand, you have the mai pen rai mentality. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Which thai people you refer 2 ?Many people, but no one forced you to response, so... I guess it is ok for people to ask about Thailand, but it is not ok for Thai people to ask about other country. But, then they like to say Thai people are uneducated and uninformed about things. Very sorry for the unhelpful posts. So your question is about what is different in other countries? The question is so overwhelming, I don't know where to begin. There are many differences: mentality, social structures, beliefs, organisation. I am from Europe, and I feel the most important differences with Thailand are the high cost of labor / high living costs in Europe (both are related), the high tax and social burdens in Europe and consumerism. In Europe we also have a lot of welfare, the people benefiting from it have mostly to thank Europe's colonial history for it. Interested to read an explanation of your last sentence....very interested. It's simple - the industrial power of Europe has been built for a significant part on resources provided by the colonies and later on provided by powerful multinationals - the most easily understandable example is oil, which has fueled wars and economic growth in the West... So in the sixties we had the biggest economic boom (of course the Marshall plan also helped a lot) and even the conservatives were ready to grant large welfare subsidies. That was only possible because globally, Europe was extracting wealth from the rest of the world to fuel its economy. Today, economic flows have balanced out and we see the welfare state isn't sustainable anymore, people get crushed by the system. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post manarak Posted January 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2014 Which thai people you refer 2 ?Many people, but no one forced you to response, so... I guess it is ok for people to ask about Thailand, but it is not ok for Thai people to ask about other country. But, then they like to say Thai people are uneducated and uninformed about things. Very sorry for the unhelpful posts. So your question is about what is different in other countries? The question is so overwhelming, I don't know where to begin. There are many differences: mentality, social structures, beliefs, organisation. I am from Europe, and I feel the most important differences with Thailand are the high cost of labor / high living costs in Europe (both are related), the high tax and social burdens in Europe and consumerism. In Europe we also have a lot of welfare, the people benefiting from it have mostly to thank Europe's colonial history for it. It seemed people go all the trouble to be in Thailand, leaving their friend, family, and ways of life. Just about everyday I see question about visa extension, they have to leaveThailand get their visa stamp of some sort to stay in Thailand. Actually, I am flattered that people like to come to Thailand and stay in Thailand. I think a lot of Thai people don't get why farangs ( I try not use the word farang but it seemed fit better in a sentence) would want to be in Thailand than their country. In Thais mind, western countries have more to offer than Thai country. I guess the grass is always greener somewhere else. Form my point of view, Western countries are offering more education, heathcare and welfare than Thailand. But also less opportunities, less well-being, less freedom, less service and much more taxes and social burden. One thing Thai people have trouble to understand, is that in Europe, one is mostly alone. As soon as you require the professional help of another person, it will cost you a fortune. We have no security guards, no other shop attendants other than the cashier, no serviced gasoline stations... In my city, a taxi ride to the airport (23 minutes) has cost me 2400 baht. :-( Shops close early. We have no 24 hour shops, except the gasoline stations on the highways, and these are very expensive. Also people have no respect. Shop staff will growl at customers to make way when they are hauling some box... In the city, I find no place to park the car. Sometimes not even paid parking. There are so many things which are impossible or heavily regulated, so much financial burden... I just feel crushed by the system in "my" country (my official residence is in Thailand). And then there are of course also the ladies. In Christian countries, regardless of what people can say, there is a heavy cultural prejudice that "sex for fun" is a sin. As is "sex for money"... result... the average male has a hard time to get laid. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bgrassboy Posted January 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2014 Speaking only from MY experience, I was raised to be an individual, I was told quite often as a child "just because everyone else is doing it/has one, doesn't mean you do". I was taught in school to ask questions. "There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers." I was raised in a church environment that reinforced the moral and ethical lessons being taught at home by my parents. I have found that living in Thailand I haven't always had the easiest experience due to my cultural values that I still cling to. I don't really feel comfortable in the collectivist mindset that I have witnessed among Thai people when I have been expected to follow along. My Thai wife used to really hate when I asked why. However after 6 years together, several trips to the states and other western countries, she now tries to answer why when asked, as well as ask why herself frequently. For the most part, I have tried to treat others as I have wanted to be treated, and this has worked out pretty well. I can't say I have that many friends here as compared to the states, but the ones I do have that are Thai are just as solid as those from the US. Thailand has strained my cultural belief system. Punctuality, and honesty seem to be grey areas in my general dealings with Thais. This could be said about anywhere or any group of people, but when I lived in the US it was easier to surround myself with like minded people. I admit I am culturally biased, but part of the adventure of living here, is learning to adapt to new and different societal norms, the chance to examen ones life from a different view point to gain more insight as to who I am and why I think the way I do. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CryWolf Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 In Norway we pay 30% tax of our income to the government.. - Some of this taxmoney is a kind of saving for retirement so that we wil get paid a small monthly salare after we retire. - Some of the taxmoney is to secure us free healtcare if we need a sergery etc. but we still have to wait up to 1 year for sergery, so maybe we die anyway We may have astronomic salaries compared to a Thai, but to rent a small 1 bedroom apartment in the capital will cost 50.000 thb pr month. So we are only rich when in Thailand We are not brougt up to take care of our famliles, and a parent would most likely not accept any help anyway. The elder takes pride in providing for them self and when time comes they cannot take care of them self anymore they move to the center for old and dement people. This i guess is a BIG difference from Thai culture. We are lucky to have 5 weeks paid vacation every year. There are of course MANY more differences, but now it's bedtime for this fellow Have a good day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 It seemed people go all the trouble to be in Thailand, leaving their friend, family, and ways of life. Just about everyday I see question about visa extension, they have to leaveThailand get their visa stamp of some sort to stay in Thailand. Actually, I am flattered that people like to come to Thailand and stay in Thailand. I think a lot of Thai people don't get why farangs ( I try not use the word farang but it seemed fit better in a sentence) would want to be in Thailand than their country. In Thais mind, western countries have more to offer than Thai country. western and also some eastern countries have indeed more to offer than Thailand. for the retired Farang they offer in comparison to Thailand -infinitely higher taxes and fees of all sorts, -much higher day-to-day living expenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NeverSure Posted January 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2014 I don't want to try to list what's better about my country because it's everything. Even the weather where I live is better with clean air but without the suffocating heat and humidity. We have very mild winters and summers. I can trust the food I eat and the water I drink and even most other drivers. The only thing that's better for me in Thailand is the availability of younger, pretty girls. That's it. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oogster8 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 The only thing that's better for me in Thailand is the availability of younger, pretty girls. That's it. Me too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Somsrisonphimai Posted January 20, 2014 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2014 In Norway we pay 30% tax of our income to the government.. - Some of this taxmoney is a kind of saving for retirement so that we wil get paid a small monthly salare after we retire. - Some of the taxmoney is to secure us free healtcare if we need a sergery etc. but we still have to wait up to 1 year for sergery, so maybe we die anyway We may have astronomic salaries compared to a Thai, but to rent a small 1 bedroom apartment in the capital will cost 50.000 thb pr month. So we are only rich when in Thailand We are not brougt up to take care of our famliles, and a parent would most likely not accept any help anyway. The elder takes pride in providing for them self and when time comes they cannot take care of them self anymore they move to the center for old and dement people. This i guess is a BIG difference from Thai culture. We are lucky to have 5 weeks paid vacation every year. There are of course MANY more differences, but now it's bedtime for this fellow Have a good day Thank you so much for responding! I really enjoy reading your and others' comments . I like learning others cultures and I am sure a lot of Thai people do as well. Cultually, I think a big difference is that Thai children were told to help out the family when there are in needs. At least one child would be staying with the parents taking care of them; that is why you'll see adult child still lives with the parents. Thai people don't save up for their retirement because they know their children will take care of them. They don't work if they don't want too because again they know their children would give them money. It would be interesting to see how luk khreung (Thai/Farang child) takes on this value. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oogster8 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I guess the grass is always greener somewhere else.Form my point of view, Western countries are offering more education, heathcare and welfare than Thailand.But also less opportunities, less well-being, less freedom, less service and much more taxes and social burden.One thing Thai people have trouble to understand, is that in Europe, one is mostly alone. As soon as you require the professional help of another person, it will cost you a fortune.We have no security guards, no other shop attendants other than the cashier, no serviced gasoline stations... In my city, a taxi ride to the airport (23 minutes) has cost me 2400 baht. :-(Shops close early. We have no 24 hour shops, except the gasoline stations on the highways, and these are very expensive.Also people have no respect. Shop staff will growl at customers to make way when they are hauling some box...In the city, I find no place to park the car. Sometimes not even paid parking.There are so many things which are impossible or heavily regulated, so much financial burden... I just feel crushed by the system in "my" country (my official residence is in Thailand).And then there are of course also the ladies. In Christian countries, regardless of what people can say, there is a heavy cultural prejudice that "sex for fun" is a sin. As is "sex for money"... result... the average male has a hard time to get laid. And to thik the usa wants to be just like you...............so freaking SAD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somsrisonphimai Posted January 20, 2014 Author Share Posted January 20, 2014 I don't want to try to list what's better about my country because it's everything. Even the weather where I live is better with clean air but without the suffocating heat and humidity. We have very mild winters and summers. I can trust the food I eat and the water I drink and even most other drivers. The only thing that's better for me in Thailand is the availability of younger, pretty girls. That's it. I was not surprised with your last sentence, 555. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somsrisonphimai Posted January 20, 2014 Author Share Posted January 20, 2014 I guess the grass is always greener somewhere else. Form my point of view, Western countries are offering more education, heathcare and welfare than Thailand. But also less opportunities, less well-being, less freedom, less service and much more taxes and social burden. One thing Thai people have trouble to understand, is that in Europe, one is mostly alone. As soon as you require the professional help of another person, it will cost you a fortune. We have no security guards, no other shop attendants other than the cashier, no serviced gasoline stations... In my city, a taxi ride to the airport (23 minutes) has cost me 2400 baht. :-( Shops close early. We have no 24 hour shops, except the gasoline stations on the highways, and these are very expensive. Also people have no respect. Shop staff will growl at customers to make way when they are hauling some box... In the city, I find no place to park the car. Sometimes not even paid parking. There are so many things which are impossible or heavily regulated, so much financial burden... I just feel crushed by the system in "my" country (my official residence is in Thailand). And then there are of course also the ladies. In Christian countries, regardless of what people can say, there is a heavy cultural prejudice that "sex for fun" is a sin. As is "sex for money"... result... the average male has a hard time to get laid. And to thik the usa wants to be just like you...............so freaking SAD! I think the US should reverse back to the 80s. 00s was not kind to the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CryWolf Posted January 20, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2014 @somsrisonphimai I must say I tend to enjoy the topics you raise! There is so much ignorance in the world, and I admire people who are curious and wanting to learn about other countries and cultures. One thing I've learned in my 37 years and 13 countries I've been to is that if you're nice, positive and open minded, you will most likely be treated with kindness and respect.. I guess you call it karma Sent from my HTC One using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post canman Posted January 20, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2014 I worked in Thailand for 4 years and for the most part enjoyed my time there. The 2 biggest differances for me were education and rule of law. If Thailand could sort out those two issues there would be no stopping her. I trust you understand the issues with rule of law; corruption, ineffectual police force, archaic judiciary, some archaic laws etc. With education the issues most prevelant were the lack of ability to think outside the box, original thought, constructive input, fear of being differant, fear of disagreeing with someone in authority. Don't get me wrong we had several outstanding employees who I would have no problem hiring anywhere in the world; they were unfortunately few and far between. This is not meant to be a criticism of Thai people but rather the Thai education system. I was taught how to learn, to make my own enquiries, to come to my own conclusions, to question that which I did not understand or believe. From my observations that is what is most missing in the Thai education system. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperylobster Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Believe me when I tell you...Thai Visa posters are just as hard on their own native countries as they have been on Thailand. There are many things to love and, well, many dislikes as well. What happens here can happen anywhere. People and customs/culture are much more interesting here than, say, America. That has to do with your long history and homogenous people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancelot Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Khun Somsrison, its great that you are interested in how others view your country. Compliments I am from the US and we often criticize our country; that does not mean that we hate the USA (some TV posters hate the US for us already, 555!) We disagree with some aspects of our government/culture and we voice those issues. Personally I like that some Thai people are non aggressive, avoid confrontation and I have tried to learn and adopt that trait of your (Thai) culture. However, if I do have a problem and try to resolve it with some Thais, some -not all- become very defensive and the situation can quickly spiral out of control. So, from my point of view Thai culture is usually better at avoiding conflicts but often lack the mediation skills to resolve them. In the west we are more confrontational when we fell we have been wronged; however, I fell that westerners are usually better at resolving conflicts after they have occurred. In any case, good topic! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Which thai people you refer 2 ?Many people, but no one forced you to response, so...I guess it is ok for people to ask about Thailand, but it is not ok for Thai people to ask about other country. But, then they like to say Thai people are uneducated and uninformed about things. Very sorry for the unhelpful posts. So your question is about what is different in other countries? The question is so overwhelming, I don't know where to begin. There are many differences: mentality, social structures, beliefs, organisation. I am from Europe, and I feel the most important differences with Thailand are the high cost of labor / high living costs in Europe (both are related), the high tax and social burdens in Europe and consumerism. In Europe we also have a lot of welfare, the people benefiting from it have mostly to thank Europe's colonial history for it. It seemed people go all the trouble to be in Thailand, leaving their friend, family, and ways of life. Just about everyday I see question about visa extension, they have to leaveThailand get their visa stamp of some sort to stay in Thailand. Actually, I am flattered that people like to come to Thailand and stay in Thailand. I think a lot of Thai people don't get why farangs ( I try not use the word farang but it seemed fit better in a sentence) would want to be in Thailand than their country. In Thais mind, western countries have more to offer than Thai country. Most Thais who want to go to the west are young and want to earn lots of money ,most of us from the west are older and have enough money and just want to enjoy a nice quiet retirement in the sun . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I guess the grass is always greener somewhere else. Form my point of view, Western countries are offering more education, heathcare and welfare than Thailand. But also less opportunities, less well-being, less freedom, less service and much more taxes and social burden. One thing Thai people have trouble to understand, is that in Europe, one is mostly alone. As soon as you require the professional help of another person, it will cost you a fortune. We have no security guards, no other shop attendants other than the cashier, no serviced gasoline stations... In my city, a taxi ride to the airport (23 minutes) has cost me 2400 baht. :-( Shops close early. We have no 24 hour shops, except the gasoline stations on the highways, and these are very expensive. Also people have no respect. Shop staff will growl at customers to make way when they are hauling some box... In the city, I find no place to park the car. Sometimes not even paid parking. There are so many things which are impossible or heavily regulated, so much financial burden... I just feel crushed by the system in "my" country (my official residence is in Thailand). And then there are of course also the ladies. In Christian countries, regardless of what people can say, there is a heavy cultural prejudice that "sex for fun" is a sin. As is "sex for money"... result... the average male has a hard time to get laid. And to thik the usa wants to be just like you...............so freaking SAD! not like me... because I'm gone from Europe. I've had it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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