Popular Post Red Snake Posted February 4, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2014 rkidlad, on 04 Feb 2014 - 15:12, said:What about all the Thai/Chinese who were protesting? Which country are you living in? For your information, they are Thai citizens. Yes, I think the irony has gone over some people's heads. The title of the topic is pretty misleading to be fair- "Thai-Indian business tycoon" suggests that the business tycoon is a Thai-Indian. Although most people would read beyond the topic before commenting... He wouldn't be deported if he was a Thai citizen. Now would he? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterwhisper Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) While I basically agree that a foreigner should not become actively involved in local politics, I don't know to what extend and how this man has been involved. Was he joining protest marches, held speeches on PDRC stages, occupied government offices, obstructed voting? I believe not and would assume that he merely supported PDRC verbally. And if that is reason enough for the current caretaker government to deport him, then I really must say that it is an entirely unjustified move and that it will come to bite PTP. They shouldn't underestimate the powerful Indian business community here in Thailand, and I am talking about "Indian-Thai citizens". As usual, PTP has once again shown that they act first and think later (if they ever think, that is, and don't just leave the thinking part to... well, you know who). Edited February 4, 2014 by Misterwhisper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unanimosity Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 ....very, very silly to do this. They were doing well , all things considered, in the international arena and now a childish, petulant, vindictive response. Doesn't help the cause one bit... So, you would prefer that he suffer the indignity of being jailed like foreigners that joined the protests in 2010? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bkksteviejai Posted February 4, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2014 Fair warning was given. If your considered a "foreigner" under Thai law don't get involved. Simple. Could not have been clearer. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoffel45 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Deport a wealthy, INFLUENTIAL Indian? It will never happen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 What the hell is Hi Park? Smoke weed in a park.............. ................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumblecat Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Right, NO foreigner have a right to go for protest, this is a Native Thai Nation issue and Business. That what I exactly hate in my country or back in Europe,foreigners come to our country's and going on the street to tell us what we should do and what there rights. <deleted> you all,if you don't like the country you visit then leave it !!!!!! What if you're a resident in that country? What if you pay taxes? At what point are people allowed rights? Or do you think they always have to be denied freedom of speech due to not being in that country? Any one with any sense at all that has permission to stay in LOS and is business happy should stay at home and have a beer. I was more interested in Andreas' hardline attitude that foreigners should never have any right to political protest in any country in the world, no matter what. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartakos Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Valid point for deporting him, no foreigner have the right to get involve in anti government activities. However does anyone remember what happened to the red shirted farangs talking about burning down BKK? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DocN Posted February 4, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2014 Right, NO foreigner have a right to go for protest, this is a Native Thai Nation issue and Business. That what I exactly hate in my country or back in Europe,foreigners come to our country's and going on the street to tell us what we should do and what there rights. <deleted> you all,if you don't like the country you visit then leave it !!!!!! Yeeeeeees...a little sunshine, aren't ya'?! It never occurred to you, that people who pay taxes in "your country", might want to have a say, how their taxes are used?! Oh...let me guess: foreigners just come to YOUR country, because they want to suck on the teats of the social welfare state, right?! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee b Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Serves him right, we were all warned about the possibillity of deportation if we joined in with any of these silly protests ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anon467367354 Posted February 4, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2014 ???? If you go to a foreign country, you are a guest of the government. Protest against that government and you are a problem that needs sorting. Before the EU it was the same there. If you lived in China or North Korea, would you join a protest march? I really don't understand your problem. There are many countries in the world, including your own. I think the issue here is people remember the pictures of hundreds of Thai people, not Americans, but Thai in the USA protesting Taksin being allow to come there. In America, anyone has the right to protest anything, that's called freedom of speech, something Thailand fears for all the corruption has left them paranoid. If one has nothing to hide, then one does not fear the truth, thus no losing face. Better not to lose face being a priority, rather than to prevent losing face from even possibly becoming a reality is pathetic. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alwyn Posted February 4, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2014 well so much for democracy. You can be a part of our country, you cam make us money, but know where you stand... you are not one of us! All men are not created equal, no inalienable rights here. Clueless and disgraceful. Way to go PTP, your sort of only for Thai people after their money of course. (pun intended) I guess you would prefer it to be more like England where wanted terroroists are allowed to stay and spout anti British bile? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prbkk Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 ....very, very silly to do this. They were doing well , all things considered, in the international arena and now a childish, petulant, vindictive response. Doesn't help the cause one bit... So, you would prefer that he suffer the indignity of being jailed like foreigners that joined the protests in 2010? No, while I believe it's borderline insanity for a foreigner to be joining the protests ( even the rent-a hippie wheeled out last week, Scandinavian I think), there is no value to this govt in being seen to be vindictive. If they want to pursue those who may have engaged in criminal acts, let the dust settle first and deal with the big picture stuff....RICE, <deleted>, not trivia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post samran Posted February 4, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2014 Deport a wealthy, INFLUENTIAL Indian? It will never happen. My thoughts exactly. This will blow over. In the meantime, we'll let the Thai Visa pundits wind themselves with their usual hysterics. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM505 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 A foreigner in Thailand does not enjoy the same rights as a Thai that are provided by the Thai Constitution? Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrischronic Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 The message was clear before the protests, any foreigner caught in protests would be deported. He got what he deserves and cannot claim he was not advised beforehand Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app How do you have to be involved? I was walking through the protest area in Pratunam Siam mall This weekend so I could get to MBK, Siam, and Central World. Was on shopping quest for the wife in BKK for three days. There was a massive amount of foreigners walking around shopping and taking pictures.. Im sure that they dont mean doing these things... Where do they draw line? <--------- honest question ..... What would you have to do to be considered a protester? I do have to say that If the government tries to break up the protests in Pratunam they will be dealing with a lot of foreigners. This area is not even shut down... all shops and businesses are open and crowded. Its now a big street market with a stage.. Anyone that says they are shutting down Bangkok and ruining the economy and local businesses is full of it! Well maybe with people afraid to come to bkk or go to these areas. I do understand that they will be affected but its really not as bad there as news and posters here believe it to be. They are just closing the street and gathering for speeches and music. This does not mean i support the protesters or anti protesters I'm just telling what I felt and Thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 The message was clear before the protests, any foreigner caught in protests would be deported. He got what he deserves and cannot claim he was not advised beforehand Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app How do you have to be involved? I was walking through the protest area in Pratunam Siam mall This weekend so I could get to MBK, Siam, and Central World. Was on shopping quest for the wife in BKK for three days. There was a massive amount of foreigners walking around shopping and taking pictures.. Im sure that they dont mean doing these things... Where do they draw line? <--------- honest question ..... What would you have to do to be considered a protester? I do have to say that If the government tries to break up the protests in Pratunam they will be dealing with a lot of foreigners. This area is not even shut down... all shops and businesses are open and crowded. Its now a big street market with a stage.. Anyone that says they are shutting down Bangkok and ruining the economy and local businesses is full of it! Well maybe with people afraid to come to bkk or go to these areas. I do understand that they will be affected but its really not as bad there as news and posters here believe it to be. They are just closing the street and gathering for speeches and music. This does not mean i support the protesters or anti protesters I'm just telling what I felt and Thought. You are daft going there............To shop............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 ....very, very silly to do this. They were doing well , all things considered, in the international arena and now a childish, petulant, vindictive response. Doesn't help the cause one bit... now a childish, petulant, vindictive response. Yours or theirs? It was made clear that foreigners would be deported if they joined the protests. In any business relationship between Thailand and India, the Indians will always do what serves their interests first, last and always. If Thailand goes all weak in the knees worried about some twit like this involving himself in domestic political issues they would lose whatever credibility they may still have. And, if this guy thinks what he did was appropriate for someone in his position, he really is an idiot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post falangadang Posted February 4, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2014 What about all the Thai/Chinese who were protesting? They are Thai citizens. This guy is a foreigner. Yes,.. and they were once foreigners before they cunningly positioned themselves as permanent fixtures in the commercial fabric of the nation! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcomer71 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) well so much for democracy. You can be a part of our country, you cam make us money, but know where you stand... you are not one of us! All men are not created equal, no inalienable rights here. Clueless and disgraceful. Way to go PTP, your sort of only for Thai people after their money of course. (pun intended) Being deported because having joined to political protest is a normal measure adopted from almost every westerner country as well. After stay for a while in jail... So I see not much to complain against Thailand or PTP here. Edited February 4, 2014 by newcomer71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simple1 Posted February 4, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) Right, NO foreigner have a right to go for protest, this is a Native Thai Nation issue and Business. That what I exactly hate in my country or back in Europe,foreigners come to our country's and going on the street to tell us what we should do and what there rights. <deleted> you all,if you don't like the country you visit then leave it !!!!!! He is a second generation Indian national living in Thailand, but has not taken up Thai citizenship. If you reseach his profile he has contributed to Thailand in many positive ways, stimulating trade, including working for the Thai Ministry of Commerce at a senior level, fund raising for the Thai poor etc etc. If the OP is factual it would be a loss for Thailand. We all know that freedom of expression is limited in Thailand and it is unfortunate you appear to subscribe to this policy that is often manipulated by the Thai government as an instrument of oppression of its own people.. Edited February 4, 2014 by simple1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captspectre Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 well so much for democracy. You can be a part of our country, you cam make us money, but know where you stand... you are not one of us! All men are not created equal, no inalienable rights here. Clueless and disgraceful. Way to go PTP, your sort of only for Thai people after their money of course. (pun intended) it has been clearly stated in the press and the TV that any foreigner who takes part in the protests, will be deported. you would think that he knew that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) Dollars to donuts the root of this deportation is a business dispute we know nothing about. Anyone believing the surface story is taking another sip of the Kool Aid. Edited February 4, 2014 by impulse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rkidlad Posted February 4, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2014 What about all the Thai/Chinese who were protesting? They are Thai citizens. This guy is a foreigner. Yes,.. and they were once foreigners before they cunningly positioned themselves as permanent fixtures in the commercial fabric of the nation! Finally, someone gets the irony. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMarlow Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 What about all the Thai/Chinese who were protesting? They're foreigners? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCM Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 What about all the Thai/Chinese who were protesting? They are Thai citizens. This guy is a foreigner. Yes,.. and they were once foreigners before they cunningly positioned themselves as permanent fixtures in the commercial fabric of the nation! There are also may ethnic Indian Thai citizens here who have full rights. The person being deported is not, so he doesn't have the same rights as a citizen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcomer71 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 If true it will be a great boost for Thai India trade relations... Not Go Chalerm both feet in the mouth again. Hum... Everyone complains against corruption, then because someone influential broken a law, government should close an eye? Double standard ok for something not ok for something else? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 ..........at least he wasn't thrown off the balcony..... ...why have we heard no more about the death of one of the highest ranking businesspeople ever.....dying in the strange manner that they did... ...we cannot overlook the fact that the auto industry is highly competitive....and wonder.....if it had anything to do with what happened... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jim walker Posted February 4, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2014 I am sure if a foreigner came into your country and was attempting to stop decent people having a democratic vote rather than being run by a non-elected committee based on wealth you would be in favour of doing the same thing a stamp on his passport and OUT bye bye forever. Well done Thailand. He might be better of protesting in India regarding his own government. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwyn Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 why are people getting uptight about this. There was fair warning. Also if Thais are going to be arrested then why shouldn't farangs? Keep your nose out of other people's business - not rocket science. Have an opinion of course but other than that, stay out. I wonder how this chap would feel if there were Thais or Brits etc joining in protests (especially ones getting violent) in his home country? And if they were protesting in opposition to him? Cart him off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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