Thai farmers to check rice stockpiles in all government warehouses today, Feb 11

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Farmers to check rice stockpiles in all government warehouses today



BANGKOK: -- Leaders of farmers in the northern and western regions will start checking rice stockpiles in all government warehouses today to find out if any of them went missing or how much rice are still good and how much are rotten.

Farmer leaders Ravee Rungruang who represented farmers in the western region and Kittisak Watanawaraha from the North vowed that farmers would not seize the warehouses but merely to stay in front of these warehouses to prevent any attempt to remove the rice out.

They said farmers would inspect the warehouses and check the quantity and quality of rice if they do exist and quality remain the same as they were declared or not or how much were rotten and spoiled.

Action by farmers came after a failed talk with government representatives led by Deputy Prime Minister and Commerce Minister Niwatthamrong Boonsongpaisarn.

Farmers walked out after they failed to get clear explanation on when they would be paid while Niwatthamrong and his deputy Nattawut Saikua repeatedly avoided to say exactly the date but put the blame for delayed payment to anti-government protests which led to the dissolution of parliament and obstruction of government’s attempt to secure loans from banks.

Farmers booed and shouted as both put the blame on others for delayed payment.

They later declared after leaving the talk that this government lost legitimacy t rule the country, and wanted the new government to resolve their problem immediately.

They vowed next but intense step to deal with the government which included the checking of rice stockpiles.

Farmer leaders spoke on the protest stage of anti-government protest at Pathumwan attacking the caretaker government of being insincere to farmers and called on caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra to step down if she could not find money to pay farmers.

Meanwhile caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck held a meeting at the Air Force Headquarters to discuss the farmers problem and to approve 712 million baht to pay farmers pledged their rice in September last year.

She did not go to work as usual at the office of the defense permanent secretary after yesterday’s rally by farmers in front of the office to meet her.

She refused to come out to meet farmers.

Addressing supporters at the protest site, protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban described her refusal to meet farmers reflected how cruel heart she has towards the people who are her party’s political base.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/farmers-check-rice-stockpiles-government-warehouses-today/


-- Thai PBS 2014-02-11

[noikrit]

Good to see the Farmers out there "Chasing Down " their money ...... It's just a shame that they have to .....

[Nickymaster]

Addressing supporters at the protest site, protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban described her refusal to meet farmers reflected how cruel heart she has towards the people who are her party’s political base.

The farmers should understand by now that The Shins will only meet them when they need them.

[seajae]

now this will be very intersting, how much rice is there actually stored and how much of it is rotten. This could really be a big problem for the ptp as it will give people the real figures not the ones made up by the ptp. YL is also looking very bad as they are totally against her as well, she said she would do what the people wanted her to, looks like that is to resign as she only has the reds backing her now. The ptp are well and truly f**ked, lets hope this is the last nail in the coffin.

[gemini81]

They should just do it and not broadcast it so the red oligarchs and slave lords of PTP are truly caught red-handed in a pool of red.

[Soutpeel]

now this will be very intersting, how much rice is there actually stored and how much of it is rotten. This could really be a big problem for the ptp as it will give people the real figures not the ones made up by the ptp. YL is also looking very bad as they are totally against her as well, she said she would do what the people wanted her to, looks like that is to resign as she only has the reds backing her now. The ptp are well and truly f**ked, lets hope this is the last nail in the coffin.

And now the end is near And so I face the final curtain

[MaxLee]

now this will be very intersting, how much rice is there actually stored and how much of it is rotten. This could really be a big problem for the ptp as it will give people the real figures not the ones made up by the ptp. YL is also looking very bad as they are totally against her as well, she said she would do what the people wanted her to, looks like that is to resign as she only has the reds backing her now. The ptp are well and truly f**ked, lets hope this is the last nail in the coffin.

And now the end is near And so I face the final curtain

Face Wars are on,...

[ggold]

I'm waiting for pipkin to come along to say it's all lies the rice farmers are wrong!

[Bluespunk]

"Farmers to check rice stockpiles in all government warehouses today"

Uh oh, was that the sound of the faeces hitting the fan?

Edited February 11, 2014 by Bluespunk

[bigbamboo]

Respect to the Thai farmers here.

How often do you see the people actively investigating fraud by the government like this? Talk about chasing the witch...!

[Thaddeus]

Next PTP excuse.

"Of course you can't see the rice, it's transparent"

[tingtongfarang]

i just had a vision of cartoons in the media of yingluck along with many ptp scampering across the runway with luggage bulging at the seams full of stolen money

[skills32]

I'm waiting for pipkin to come along to say it's all lies the rice farmers are wrong!

He is probably looking for the payments for his last 50 posts.

[lovetotravel]

She refused to come out to meet farmers.

Refuses to meet the very group of people who put her and her family into power and made them rich. Incredible.

Hopefully, this is a wake up call for Thai citizens. Doubtful.

[robblok]

now this will be very intersting, how much rice is there actually stored and how much of it is rotten. This could really be a big problem for the ptp as it will give people the real figures not the ones made up by the ptp. YL is also looking very bad as they are totally against her as well, she said she would do what the people wanted her to, looks like that is to resign as she only has the reds backing her now. The ptp are well and truly f**ked, lets hope this is the last nail in the coffin.

And now the end is near And so I face the final curtain

If this really goes through.. and the estimates are good.. then yes i fear its the end of the government.

Correction.. i forget they will just lie again and say the farmers are lying and the minister of white and black lies will come out to tell how it is all not true.

This government has been proven to lie cheat and steal... but they will never ever admit it or accept responsibility. So even if this is proven they wont accept it and so wont the red supporters.

Can you imagine.. farmers and some PTP representative together going to check all the rice .. at the same day then nobody can deny a thing.. I think the rice should be checked nation wide.. too bad nobody really has the power to force this to happen.

[Skint]

Best option is to take back the rice and sell it for the normal price which is 1 or 2 baht a kg less than what the government offered.

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[rubl]

I saw our dear caretaker Dept. Minister of Commerce, Pheu Thai party list MP and UDD leader Nattawut on TV last night. He looked definitely uncomfortable. Wasn't it a year or more ago he was sent upcountry by PM Yingluck to explain the rice price pledging scheme to farmers? Never heard anything afterwards, wonder what he did.

[billd766]

I'm waiting for pipkin to come along to say it's all lies the rice farmers are wrong!

I will only know he does that if somebody quotes him. He is one of quite a few on my ignore list.

[cooked]

This is a unique situation, TIT. Nobody governing or wanting to govern, so the farmers find themselves obliged to do what any civilised democracy would have done long ago. An inventory! This will be a first in Thailand if they get it right. 20 years ago the USA would have had CIA agents hatching dirty tricks all over the place.

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[Bluespunk]

While this has a certain amount of monty python about it all it is a sign that things really are spiralling out of control.

We have a govt that apparently has no grasp of economics and cannot meet its obligations to the farmers. They discarded a scheme designed to meet the farmers needs because they wanted to show they really cared. The result was the monstrously inept rice scheme, which to date has destroyed Thailand's rice industry, driven the BAAC to the borders of bankruptcy, left farmers in debt and suicidally desperate (how the F does something designed to lift you out of poverty do that <deleted>) and is now consuming this govt. they have no way of paying and each scheme designed to do so is stupider than its predecessor. The most telling sign of its failure is yingluck's refusal to meet the farmers.

We have farmers groups blocking roads, protesting in the capital and around the country and now blockading warehouses to stop rice leaving. They have lost all faith in PT and others who have betrayed them and now have decided to take matters into their own hands. Mob rule looms.

We have suthep and his desperate search for any cause to support his quest for the power and glory his fascist dawn promises. The man is scum and has used the protesters legitimate complaints for his own ends and now wants to do the same with the farmers.

We have an utterly corrupt or incompetent law enforcement leadership that either follows the political dictates of the current administration as slavishly as they did others (that's you Tarit) or is quite happy to meet fugitive criminals abroad for a bit of a knees up now and then. The grunts on the street do not have the desire or the ability to control any of the groups taking the law into their own hands. That is not their fault, they didn't join the BIB for this, the blame lies entirely with their leadership.

As for the political leadership in all sides. <deleted> do they think they are doing? Can they not see where all this leading or do they just not care? Stupid or callous, I don't know which is worse.

Is there a check list for a failed state? Not saying Thailand is there yet but must be ticking some of the boxes.

[Artisi]

I'm waiting for pipkin to come along to say it's all lies the rice farmers are wrong!

He is probably looking for the payments for his last 50 posts.

You would be well on the money with that comment.

Or maybe he was offered a couple of bags of rice as payment, just hope he checks it well before accepting..

Edited February 11, 2014 by Artisi

[Thait Spot]

now this will be very intersting, how much rice is there actually stored and how much of it is rotten. This could really be a big problem for the ptp as it will give people the real figures not the ones made up by the ptp. YL is also looking very bad as they are totally against her as well, she said she would do what the people wanted her to, looks like that is to resign as she only has the reds backing her now. The ptp are well and truly f**ked, lets hope this is the last nail in the coffin.

And now the end is near And so I face the final curtain

Very apt...... Floods, rice, amnesty, senate bills, 2.2T loan, flood loan (still unspent), minimum wage, graduate wage, tablets, 4 seasons, Ekayuth, Preah Viharn (unactioned)..........

Yes, there were times, I'm sure you knew

When I bit off more than I could chew

And through it all, when there was doubt

I ate it up and spit it out

I faced it all and I stood tall and did it my way

I've loved, I've laughed and cried

I've had my fill, my share of losing

And now, as tears subside, I find it all so amusing

To think I did all that

And may I say, not in a shy way,

"Oh, no, oh, no, not me, I did it my way"

For what is a man, what has he got?

If not himself, then he has naught

The right to say the things he feels and not the words of one who kneels

The record shows I took the blows and did it my way!

[Scamper]

" Nattawut Saikua repeatedly avoided to say exactly the date but put the blame for delayed payment to anti-government protests ... Farmers booed and shouted as both put the blame on others for delayed payment.They later declared after leaving the talk that this government lost legitimacy to rule the country. "

For those that remember Nattawut during Ratchaprason in 2010, these sentences will be ones to linger upon and savour. The farmers have been late in seeing the UDD and Pheu Thai for what they are. But they are seeing them now. In Vista Vision.

Edited February 11, 2014 by Scamper

[Artisi]

While this has a certain amount of monty python about it all it is a sign that things really are spiralling out of control.

We have a govt that apparently has no grasp of economics and cannot meet its obligations to the farmers. They discarded a scheme designed to meet the farmers needs because they wanted to show they really cared. The result was the monstrously inept rice scheme, which to date has destroyed Thailand's rice industry, driven the BAAC to the borders of bankruptcy, left farmers in debt and suicidally desperate (how the F does something designed to lift you out of poverty do that <deleted>) and is now consuming this govt. they have no way of paying and each scheme designed to do so is stupider than its predecessor. The most telling sign of its failure is yingluck's refusal to meet the farmers.

We have farmers groups blocking roads, protesting in the capital and around the country and now blockading warehouses to stop rice leaving. They have lost all faith in PT and others who have betrayed them and now have decided to take matters into their own hands. Mob rule looms.

We have suthep and his desperate search for any cause to support his quest for the power and glory his fascist dawn promises. The man is scum and has used the protesters legitimate complaints for his own ends and now wants to do the same with the farmers.

We have an utterly corrupt or incompetent law enforcement leadership that either follows the political dictates of the current administration as slavishly as they did others (that's you Tarit) or is quite happy to meet fugitive criminals abroad for a bit of a knees up now and then. The grunts on the street do not have the desire or the ability to control any of the groups taking the law into their own hands. That is not their fault, they didn't join the BIB for this, the blame lies entirely with their leadership.

As for the political leadership in all sides. <deleted> do they think they are doing? Can they not see where all this leading or do they just not care? Stupid or callous, I don't know which is worse.

Is there a check list for a failed state? Not saying Thailand is there yet but must be ticking some of the boxes.

Monty Python couldn't come up with and thing as bizarre the current meltdown of Thailand.

[gemini81]

I'm waiting for pipkin to come along to say it's all lies the rice farmers are wrong!

He is probably looking for the payments for his last 50 posts.

Only handouts to supporters with a vocabulary more than two words, beyond 'fascist' and 'suthep'...guess he'll have to steal their new set of wheels they used to buy their car instead of feed their former pawns.

Edited February 11, 2014 by gemini81

[taony]

I love the farmers, no nonsense!

[inzman]

I believe some farmers will wake up to the reality of the situation. I also believe a large percentage will not, they are too swept over by the shins. There are many many fanatical reds that will never see the trees thru the Forrest. It really is a shame that a country can be taken over by such ruthless crooks. It has happened and is happening many times over in this world. Is it lack of education?Greed? I really don't know. Why can't people see the truth when it so obvious they are being used? It is a human fault that people can be so easily manipulated, weak minds.

[ggold]

I believe some farmers will wake up to the reality of the situation. I also believe a large percentage will not, they are too swept over by the shins. There are many many fanatical reds that will never see the trees thru the Forrest. It really is a shame that a country can be taken over by such ruthless crooks. It has happened and is happening many times over in this world. Is it lack of education?Greed? I really don't know. Why can't people see the truth when it so obvious they are being used? It is a human fault that people can be so easily manipulated, weak minds.

unfortunately I think it is just greed! I'm still waiting for the red shirt leaders to say something, but Tilda and Jutaporn seem very quite about the rice farmers plight. Is that because they've been paid well to keep quiet?

[Katipo]

If the thus far quiet Isaan crowd join the fray, that'll be the end of it.

The Reds are very deeply embedded up there though, and every single improvement to infrastructure etc they have seen has been accredited to Thaksin and PTP. Although I am not saying this is entirely untrue, it has been grossly exaggerated, and the money has come from hardworking taxpayers such as myself, not Thaksin himself.

[varun]

This fundamental cause of this whole debacle is one of the oldest motives in the world...greed.

I mean greed on both sides of the fence: the government & the farmers.

Somchai from the paddy field up in Ubon wanted a new pickup in the parking lot, and this scheme must have seemed like a fast-track to get it, at the time.

Too bad for him.

The second major cause is arrogance...yes arrogance... Thai arrogance.

The government had the audacity to think they could manipulate market forces, and corner the Asian rice market.

Too bad for them.

Not exactly the fairy tale ending, either had envisioned.

Som nam na.