Bangkok: Gunmen spray bullets into house of ACT chairman Pramon Sutivong

[gamini]

suthep's people are carrying all types of firearms, maybe they are doing all this just to get people to believe it is the other side doing it. Remember this is Thailand and suthep did oreder the killing of 90 people three years ago.

Why don't you stop your stupid rants. Or are you paid by the red shirts or Taksin to make them. Or are you just a very ignorant red shirt supporter

[MobileContent]

If you are a Japanese investor, and the Chairman of the Board of a Japanese company is attacked, would you want to invest more in Thailand. This will not help the Board of Investment attract more foreign investors.

Only in Thailand can a chairman of two powerful companies be also the chairman of the Anti Corruption Agency. I guess Siam Cement Group will never be investigated for corruption then.

[mikemac]

suthep's people are carrying all types of firearms, maybe they are doing all this just to get people to believe it is the other side doing it. Remember this is Thailand and suthep did oreder the killing of 90 people three years ago.

Why don't you stop your stupid rants. Or are you paid by the red shirts or Taksin to make them. Or are you just a very ignorant red shirt supporter

I will report this "stupid rant" as blatant trolling. Am sick of these morons trying to ruin an otherwise very good forum.

diehard60 is one of a few who should be banned immediately.

[rickirs]

I don't have a problem with a high profile, successful business man being on ACT. BUT he is a contributor to PDRC while involved in the investigation of corruption in the PTP? Aren't members of ACT required to file public financial disclosures so that any conflict of interest can be identified? This would be called TRANSPARENCY and would be necessary to avoid corruption within the ACT. Are ACT memebers required to file financial disclosures, and if so, what does his statements show? If it is true that he is a PDRC contributor, he should resign immediately as well as anyone else on the committeee for the sake of honesty and trust.

[fleeing]

I don't have a problem with a high profile, successful business man being on ACT. BUT he is a contributor to PDRC while involved in the investigation of corruption in the PTP? Aren't members of ACT required to file public financial disclosures so that any conflict of interest can be identified? This would be called TRANSPARENCY and would be necessary to avoid corruption within the ACT. Are ACT memebers required to file financial disclosures, and if so, what does his statements show? If it is true that he is a PDRC contributor, he should resign immediately as well as anyone else on the committeee for the sake of honesty and trust.

You contradict yourself and illustrate the duplicitous tactic of the CMPO, to insinuate something that cannot be proved and is very unlikely to be illegal in any case.

The ACT is an organisation that attempts to reduce corruption by promoting open practices in business and public policy, and promote public awareness of good governance. The ACT did protest to the government about the amnesty bill, because it's goal of white-washing corruption was incompatible with the goals of the ACT. The ACT is not involved in any investigation of corruption in the PTP.

Naturally an organisation working against corruption is seen as a threat by a corrupt (care)taker government, which is possibly why it's chairman has been set up as a target for this attack by it's supporters.

Edited February 15, 2014 by fleeing

[Mudcrab]

As chairman of the "Anti Corruption of Thailand" he must have a lot of enemies.

Be interesting to see if the PTP and the Shinawatra's openly and unreservedly denounce this and the other cowardly attacks on those who oppose corruption.

I don't see any reason why any govt should openly and unreservedly denounce such an attack as there is no evidence at this stage to point to anything political.

Like you said, as chairman of the ACT, he might have a lot of enemies. As a board member of Toyota and SCG, there is also the possibility that this a a business conflict.

Immediately pointing fingers at either reds or yellows or whatever colour is just nonsensical.

I see every reason why any government should openly and unreservedly denounce any attack of this nature on any of their citizens.

It seems this was an a criminal act, possibly, attempted murder of a Thai person.

You can't see why the police shouldn't conduct a swift and thorough investigation into this?

Wow you really are institutionalised by the shirt of the colour of your choice.

Edited February 15, 2014 by Mudcrab

[Gweiloman]

As chairman of the "Anti Corruption of Thailand" he must have a lot of enemies.

Be interesting to see if the PTP and the Shinawatra's openly and unreservedly denounce this and the other cowardly attacks on those who oppose corruption.

I don't see any reason why any govt should openly and unreservedly denounce such an attack as there is no evidence at this stage to point to anything political.

Like you said, as chairman of the ACT, he might have a lot of enemies. As a board member of Toyota and SCG, there is also the possibility that this a a business conflict.

Immediately pointing fingers at either reds or yellows or whatever colour is just nonsensical.

I see every reason why any government should openly and unreservedly denounce any attack of this nature on any of their citizens.

It seems this was an a criminal act, possibly, attempted murder of a Thai person.

You can't see why the police shouldn't conduct a swift and thorough investigation into this?

Wow you really are institutionalised by the shirt of the colour of your choice.

Where did I say that the police shouldn't conduct an investigation?

I said, why should the government make any statement on this particular case and not any other where someone else is shot at? Which govt in the world would openly and unreservedly denounce all attacks of this nature on it's citizens?

I think it is your colour of choice that has blinded you to what's logical and rational.

[helle]

Go pension !

[phycokiller]

suthep's people are carrying all types of firearms, maybe they are doing all this just to get people to believe it is the other side doing it. Remember this is Thailand and suthep did oreder the killing of 90 people three years ago.

Why don't you stop your stupid rants. Or are you paid by the red shirts or Taksin to make them. Or are you just a very ignorant red shirt supporter

I will report this "stupid rant" as blatant trolling. Am sick of these morons trying to ruin an otherwise very good forum.

diehard60 is one of a few who should be banned immediately.

ignor prefs at the top right under your user name, best thing about this forum

[unanimosity]

10,000000 guns and people who think justice. Comes from the barrel of a gun. Why do so called Buddhists. Need this firepower?

It's called compensation. Size only matters to those that don't have it.

[backtonormal]

again the reds/ptp supporters are out shooting up anyone that doesnt do what the reds/ptp want them too, this is all chalerms/and the militant reds doing, trying to scare people into their way of thinking, what else can you expect from scum.

Trying reading what you just wrote (always write) you sound like an 'Agony Aunt' from some washed up monthly magazine. It will be them damn soldiers at it again. Nobody gets hurt its all staged, its a sympathy shooting to garner support for the dwindling ranks of the PDRC. Dont fall for it...most of us dont

[backtonormal]

If you are a Japanese investor, and the Chairman of the Board of a Japanese company is attacked, would you want to invest more in Thailand. This will not help the Board of Investment attract more foreign investors.

Only in Thailand can a chairman of two powerful companies be also the chairman of the Anti Corruption Agency. I guess Siam Cement Group will never be investigated for corruption then.

God forbid dont say things like that. Who are the major players in Siam Cement...money maybe being donated from their accounts to the PDRC

[backtonormal]

suthep's people are carrying all types of firearms, maybe they are doing all this just to get people to believe it is the other side doing it. Remember this is Thailand and suthep did oreder the killing of 90 people three years ago.

Why don't you stop your stupid rants. Or are you paid by the red shirts or Taksin to make them. Or are you just a very ignorant red shirt supporter

Gamini...people get 112 read to them for suggesting 'paid for postings' ....you cant have because your post is still on this thread. I hope the mod is reading your post and removes it shortly

[samuidave]

As chairman of the "Anti Corruption of Thailand" he must have a lot of enemies.

Be interesting to see if the PTP and the Shinawatra's openly and unreservedly denounce this and the other cowardly attacks on those who oppose corruption.

ARE you joking?

The Crab Lady PM hasn't even acknowledged the bombing or suicides, or made an apology for any of the violence or destruction. Kind of makes one conclude that her tacit acceptance means she approves.

[michaeljordan]

These two sides do not like each other.

[Prbkk]

This must be some fringe group trying to stir up trouble. There is no motive at all for anyone linked to the govt to do this. Khun Pramon has a stellar record in his professional life. .

[iancnx]

As chairman of the "Anti Corruption of Thailand" he must have a lot of enemies.

Be interesting to see if the PTP and the Shinawatra's openly and unreservedly denounce this and the other cowardly attacks on those who oppose corruption.

I don't see any reason why any govt should openly and unreservedly denounce such an attack as there is no evidence at this stage to point to anything political.

Like you said, as chairman of the ACT, he might have a lot of enemies. As a board member of Toyota and SCG, there is also the possibility that this a a business conflict.

Immediately pointing fingers at either reds or yellows or whatever colour is just nonsensical.

What is nonsensical is your assessment of this incident. LMAO at you!

[iancnx]

This must be some fringe group trying to stir up trouble. There is no motive at all for anyone linked to the govt to do this. Khun Pramon has a stellar record in his professional life. .

Please refer to my post above.

[soalbundy]

Its just the Thai way of saying,"I disagree". Freedom of expression so to speak.

[soalbundy]

Excellent ground to sue the government. Their minister's preparing hit lists for their red shirt militants to take out.

Why does it have to be red shirts ALL the time. It could be others from sutheps band of thugs also.

Got to be the most pathetic and desperate case of "clutching at straws" I ever did see.

To put it in Thai police jargon, it could be anybody, my cat was missing around that time but i won't jump to conclusions yet.

[HD 205]

Hopefully they catch who did this.

As if they will.

[djjamie]

suthep's people are carrying all types of firearms, maybe they are doing all this just to get people to believe it is the other side doing it. Remember this is Thailand and suthep did oreder the killing of 90 people three years ago.

Why don't you stop your stupid rants. Or are you paid by the red shirts or Taksin to make them. Or are you just a very ignorant red shirt supporter

I will report this "stupid rant" as blatant trolling. Am sick of these morons trying to ruin an otherwise very good forum.

diehard60 is one of a few who should be banned immediately.

Agreed. Not because he is a UDD supporter but because he states lies as facts which IS a PTP trait.

[SantiSuk]

So the chairman of the Anti-Corruption Commission is also chairman of the board of Toyota Motor Thailand and a board member of Siam Cement Group. And he's tasked with finding conflicts of interest...

Ah yes - the Cement Industry - widely recognised throughout the world as one of the most rottenly corrupt industries!

[hgma]

How many of us know the price of a hitman?

It has said that the gunman (captured) whom hit the red shirt leader in Udon Thani had recieved 8000 bath for the job....

That's right 8-000 bath!!

Now with an army of gunslingers on the streets whom are willing to 'do a job' whenever someone needs them...plus an arsenal of unregistered guns and weaponary in Thailand, nobody is safe as this attack has shown!

Freaking scary!!

[mikemac]

So the chairman of the Anti-Corruption Commission is also chairman of the board of Toyota Motor Thailand and a board member of Siam Cement Group. And he's tasked with finding conflicts of interest...

Ah yes - the Cement Industry - widely recognised throughout the world as one of the most rottenly corrupt industries!

I used to blame Suthep and Abhisit for all the political problems that have affected Thailand in recent years, now I realize it has been the cement industry all along.

[Thai at Heart]

Why is a bloke who is on the board of companies on the board of a counter corruption committee?

None of his companies EVER been accused of paying one satang under the table anywhere as a facilitation payment? Don't blow him up, but this is absolutely a massive conflict of interest to be sitting on this committee

[JRSoul]

Why is a bloke who is on the board of companies on the board of a counter corruption committee?

None of his companies EVER been accused of paying one satang under the table anywhere as a facilitation payment? Don't blow him up, but this is absolutely a massive conflict of interest to be sitting on this committee

A conflict of interest is not a crime. It only becomes so when the conflicted person fails to declare such a conflict and recuses themselves from affected decisions.

[noitom]

Excellent ground to sue the government. Their minister's preparing hit lists for their red shirt militants to take out.

It's not a "hit list." It's a list of sedition and anarchy sponsors. In any democratic country, a seditionist anarchist group that commandeers public facilities, government offices, and breaches security is arrested immediately and charged. Investors are investigated and arrested on charges of sponsoring and funding sedition.

[Thai at Heart]

Why is a bloke who is on the board of companies on the board of a counter corruption committee?

None of his companies EVER been accused of paying one satang under the table anywhere as a facilitation payment? Don't blow him up, but this is absolutely a massive conflict of interest to be sitting on this committee

A conflict of interest is not a crime. It only becomes so when the conflicted person fails to declare such a conflict and recuses themselves from affected decisions.

Who says its a crime. Its just a massive conflict of interest and either he shouldn't have been asked to take the job, or he should have given up his other roles beforehand.

This is not a role for people involved in business and industry. Pure and simple.

[englishoak]

Why is a bloke who is on the board of companies on the board of a counter corruption committee?

None of his companies EVER been accused of paying one satang under the table anywhere as a facilitation payment? Don't blow him up, but this is absolutely a massive conflict of interest to be sitting on this committee

A conflict of interest is not a crime. It only becomes so when the conflicted person fails to declare such a conflict and recuses themselves from affected decisions.

Who says its a crime. Its just a massive conflict of interest and either he shouldn't have been asked to take the job, or he should have given up his other roles beforehand.

This is not a role for people involved in business and industry. Pure and simple.

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